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AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:39 am
by Gil Dobie
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Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:08 am
by 93henfan
I’m going to have to pull a Missouri on this poll.

Delaware at #12? Show me.

Huge drop off after 1 and 2 in this poll. This is not your father’s FCS/I-AA.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:44 am
by VandalBasher
We're #30!

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:08 am
by 89Hen
We need more good OOC games within I-AA during the season.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:49 am
by SeattleGriz
89Hen wrote:We need more good OOC games within I-AA during the season.
Excited to have Montana play both UNI and Western Illinois this OOC.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:57 am
by Gil Dobie
89Hen wrote:We need more good OOC games within I-AA during the season.
NDSU has a former champions Delaware, future champion in North Alabama and a former conference mate in Cal Poly.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:19 am
by 89Hen
Looking at you Jacksonville State and Kennesaw State... playing each other doesn't help me.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:51 am
by AZGrizFan
Must not be any Griz fans/posters on AGS anymore... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:24 pm
by BDKJMU
89Hen wrote:We need more good OOC games within I-AA during the season.
89Hen wrote:Looking at you Jacksonville State and Kennesaw State... playing each other doesn't help me.
While I agree wee need more good OOC games within I-AA, Kennesaw & JSU are doing their part.
-Kennesaw vs JSU (#1, #3, #3 seed the last 3 seasons) in Atlanta
-Samford @ Kennesaw (Samford playoffs last 2 seasons and pre season pick to win the So-Con).
-NC A&T @ JSU this Sat. (NC A&T 12-0 & finished top 10 last season).
-UNI @ Montana (Montana's 1st game with Hauck back, UNI playoff last season).
-Montana @ WIU (WIU playoffs last season).
-UD @ NDSU (UD pre season CAA #3/top 15 most polls).
-Furman @ Elon (both were playoffs last year and are projected playoffs this year).
-Colgate @ UNH (Colgate was playoff last year & the pre season pick to win the Patriot again).
-S Dakota @ Weber St (both playoff teams last season).

4 of those 15 teams (JSU, Montana, NDSU, UD) aren't playing a I-A game, so it makes it easier to schedule a home/home with a marquee I-AA OOC opponent & still have 6 home games on the season the marquee I-AA opponent is an away game.

Some other matchups that I'm not sure when they were scheduled, but a year ago would have looked like good OOC matchups:
-N Dakota @ SHSU (N Dakota #7 seed 2016, sucked last season).
-Cal Poly @ NDSU (Cal Poly playoffs 2016, sucked last season).

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am
by 89Hen
BDKJMU wrote:While I agree wee need more good OOC games within I-AA, Kennesaw & JSU are doing their part.
-Kennesaw vs JSU (#1, #3, #3 seed the last 3 seasons) in Atlanta
-Samford @ Kennesaw (Samford playoffs last 2 seasons and pre season pick to win the So-Con).
-NC A&T @ JSU this Sat. (NC A&T 12-0 & finished top 10 last season).
I don't agree. I said playing each other doesn't help. Samford beat KSU in the regular season last year. NCAT... Who did they play/beat OOC?

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:45 pm
by BDKJMU
89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:While I agree wee need more good OOC games within I-AA, Kennesaw & JSU are doing their part.
-Kennesaw vs JSU (#1, #3, #3 seed the last 3 seasons) in Atlanta
-Samford @ Kennesaw (Samford playoffs last 2 seasons and pre season pick to win the So-Con).
-NC A&T @ JSU this Sat. (NC A&T 12-0 & finished top 10 last season).
I don't agree. I said playing each other doesn't help. Samford beat KSU in the regular season last year. NCAT... Who did they play/beat OOC?
And Kennesaw beat Samford in the playoffs (and JSU) & made the qtr finals while only starting 2 seniors.

I got you now on the "playing each other doesn't help" part in regards to KSU & JSU. I halfway agree on that. It doesn't help the loser. It sure helps the winner in terms of SOS & having 1 more quality win over another playoff team come seeding time.

NC A&T didn't beat anyone of note I-AA, but they did get a G5 win over a terrible UNCC.

Re: RE: Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:16 pm
by SeattleGriz
AZGrizFan wrote:Must not be any Griz fans/posters on AGS anymore... Image Image Image
Exactly.

Re: RE: Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:25 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
SeattleGriz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Must not be any Griz fans/posters on AGS anymore... Image Image Image
Exactly.
I voted… :D





I also didn't rank the Griz. :|

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:44 am
by 89Hen
BDKJMU wrote:
89Hen wrote: I don't agree. I said playing each other doesn't help. Samford beat KSU in the regular season last year. NCAT... Who did they play/beat OOC?
And Kennesaw beat Samford in the playoffs (and JSU) & made the qtr finals while only starting 2 seniors.

I got you now on the "playing each other doesn't help" part in regards to KSU & JSU. I halfway agree on that. It doesn't help the loser. It sure helps the winner in terms of SOS & having 1 more quality win over another playoff team come seeding time.
Samford was an overrated team. Their "big" win OOC was Kennesaw and Kennesaw's "big" win OOC was Samford.

The SoCon is a shell of it's former self. They beat nobody out of conference last year. Ranked SoCon teams OOC last year:

Wofford - beat Gardner-Webb (barely), and Presby, lost to South Carolina and got clobbered by NDSU
El Cid - beat Newberry and Presby, lost to Clemson
Furman - beat Colgate, split with Elon and lost to NCSt
WCU - beat Davidson and Gardner-Webb, lost to UNC

Furman beating Elon in the playoffs was basically the marquis win for the SoCon and to be honest, Elon was a very mediocre team last year. They very easily could have been a sub .500 team. 2OT to Towson, 1 point win over URI... their biggest margin of victory all year was an 8 point win over 2-9 W&M.

All I'm saying is that too often people get caught up in records without really looking at who teams beat and maybe more importantly, who the teams in their conference beat. NCAT is a function of that. Jacksonville State is a function of that. If either played in the CAA or MVFC, they would not make the playoffs unless they improved. Yet here they are, year after year in the top 10-15.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:20 am
by SeattleGriz
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Exactly.
I voted… :D





I also didn't rank the Griz. :|
Ha. It doesn't bother me at all. Don't think the Griz have shown much reason to be ranked.

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:00 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
VandalBasher wrote:We're #30!

I agree, thats a little high, Idaho should be in the 38-45 range of the FCS

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:54 pm
by VandalBasher
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

1 N Dakota St MVFC 0-0
2 James Madison CAA 0-0
3 S Dakota St MVFC 0-0
4 Weber St BSC 0-
5 Northern Iowa MVFC 0-0
6 Sam Houston St SLC 0-
7 Jacksonville St OVC 0-0
8 W Illinois MVFC 0-
9 Kennesaw BSo 0-
10 E Washington BSC 0-0
11 South Dakota MVFC 0-
12 Southern Utah BSC 0-0
13 Cent Arkansas SLC 0-0
14 Youngstown St MVFC 0-
15 Stony Brook CAA 0-0
16 Samford SC 0-0
17 Illinois St MVFC 0-0
18 New Hampshire CAA 0-0
19 Delaware CAA 0-0
20 Wofford SC 0-0
21 Furman SC 0-0
22 Richmond CAA 0-0
23 Yale Ivy 0-0
24 NC A&T MEAC 0-0
25 Villanova CAA 0-0

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:55 pm
by VandalBasher
https://mikewachsman51.blogspot.com/201 ... eport.html

COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOCUS 2018 FCS TOP 25
1 North Dakota State
2 Eastern Washington
3 James Madison
4 Samford
5 Kennesaw State
6 Sam Houston State
7 Jacksonville State
8 South Dakota State
9 New Hampshire
10 North Carolina A&T
11 Delaware
12 Illinois State
13 Youngstown State
14 Weber State
15 Wofford
16 Nicholls
17 Idaho
18 Northern Iowa
19 Furman
20 Yale
21 Elon
22 Austin Peay
23 Montana
24 Northern Arizona
25 UC Davis

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:55 pm
by VandalBasher
http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Conference Predictions
2018-2019 FCS College Football Rankings
Preseason: Monday July 30, 2018

Rank School Conference Rating W L Prev Chng Pwr Off Def
1 North Dakota St Missouri Valley 0.72 0 0 1 1 4 1
2 James Madison CAA 0.65 0 0 2 2 3 3
3 Sam Houston St Southland 0.55 0 0 3 14 2 78
4 South Dakota St Missouri Valley 0.54 0 0 4 3 1 8
5 Jacksonville St Ohio Valley 0.50 0 0 5 9 19 9
6 Weber St Big Sky 0.46 0 0 6 10 24 7
7 Eastern Washington Big Sky 0.46 0 0 7 12 5 48
8 Wofford Southern 0.46 0 0 8 25 33 19
9 Northern Iowa Missouri Valley 0.46 0 0 9 4 10 2
10 New Hampshire CAA 0.44 0 0 10 28 43 18
11 Central Arkansas Southland 0.44 0 0 11 15 21 15
12 Kennesaw St Big South 0.44 0 0 12 27 31 24
13 Samford Southern 0.43 0 0 13 20 17 28
14 North Carolina A&T Mid-Eastern 0.41 0 0 14 35 38 36
15 Youngstown St Missouri Valley 0.40 0 0 15 5 13 4
16 Southern Utah Big Sky 0.40 0 0 16 11 8 20
17 Western Illinois Missouri Valley 0.40 0 0 17 6 7 10
18 Idaho Big Sky 0.39 0 0 18 17 26 12
19 Yale Ivy League 0.39 0 0 19 36 44 31
20 Richmond CAA 0.38 0 0 20 13 11 30
21 Furman Southern 0.38 0 0 21 24 22 38
22 Stony Brook CAA 0.37 0 0 22 23 40 13
23 South Dakota Missouri Valley 0.37 0 0 23 8 6 22
24 Elon CAA 0.37 0 0 24 51 65 45
25 Illinois St Missouri Valley 0.37 0 0 25 7 23 6

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:56 pm
by VandalBasher
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i ... 5199748904
http://bigskyconf.com/news/2018/8/6/foo ... -poll.aspx

The STATS FCS Preseason Top 25:
1. North Dakota State (14-1), 3,919 points - 151 first-place votes; Final 2017 Ranking: 1
2. James Madison (14-1), 3,764 - 6; Final 2017 Ranking: 2
3. South Dakota State (11-3), 3,470; Final 2017 Ranking: 3
4. Sam Houston State (12-2), 3,228; Final 2017 Ranking: 4
5. Kennesaw State (12-2), 3,120; Final 2017 Ranking: 8;
6. Jacksonville State (10-2), 3,041; Final 2017 Ranking: 9
7. New Hampshire (9-5), 2,873; Final 2017 Ranking: 12
8. Weber State (11-3), 2,815; Final 2017 Ranking: 5
9. Eastern Washington (7-4), 2,541; Final 2017 Ranking: 21
10. Wofford (10-3), 2,087; Final 2017 Ranking: 6
11. Samford (8-4), 2,003; Final 2017 Ranking: 18
12. Elon (8-4), 1,812; Final 2017 Ranking: 20
13. Northern Iowa (8-5), 1,612; Final 2017 Ranking: 17
14. North Carolina A&T (12-0), 1,480; Final 2017 Ranking: 7
15. Delaware (7-4), 1,470; Final 2017 Ranking: NR
16. Central Arkansas (10-2), 1,383; Final 2017 Ranking: 10
17. McNeese (9-2), 1,133; Final 2017 Ranking: 22
18. Nicholls (8-4), 1,056; Final 2017 Ranking: 25
19. Villanova (5-6), 920; Final 2017 Ranking: NR
20. Stony Brook (10-3), 798; Final 2017 Ranking: 11
21. Illinois State (6-5), 795; Final 2017 Ranking: NR
22. Austin Peay (8-4), 709; Final 2017 Ranking: NR
23. Furman (8-5), 685; Final 2017 Ranking: 19
24. Montana (7-4), 626; Final 2017 Ranking: NR
25. Youngstown State (6-5), 541; Final 2017 Ranking: NR

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:57 pm
by VandalBasher
https://www.fcsfansnation.com/rankings/

FCS Fans Nation Top 10 poll

1. NORTH DAKOTA STATE
2. JAMES MADISON
3. KENNESAW STATE
4. SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
5. NEW HAMPSHIRE
6. EASTERN WASHINGTON
7. SAM HOUSTON STATE
8. JACKSONVILLE STATE
9. SAMFORD
10. WEBER STATE

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:57 pm
by VandalBasher
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

Rank School Votes Prev
1 North Dakota State (0-0) 3919 (151) NR
2 James Madison (0-0) 3764 (6) NR
3 South Dakota State (0-0) 3470 NR
4 Sam Houston State (0-0) 3228 NR
5 Kennesaw State (0-0) 3120 NR
6 Jacksonville State (0-0) 3041 NR
7 New Hampshire (0-0) 2873 NR
8 Weber State (0-0) 2815 NR
9 Eastern Washington (0-0) 2541 NR
10 Wofford (0-0) 2087 NR
11 Samford (0-0) 2003 NR
12 Elon (0-0) 1812 NR
13 UNI (0-0) 1612 NR
14 North Carolina A&T (0-0) 1480 NR
15 Delaware (0-0) 1470 NR
16 Central Arkansas (0-0) 1383 NR
17 McNeese (0-0) 1133 NR
18 Nicholls (0-0) 1056 NR
19 Villanova (0-0) 920 NR
20 Stony Brook (0-0) 798 NR
21 Illinois State (0-0) 795 NR
22 Austin Peay (0-0) 709 NR
23 Furman (0-0) 685 NR
24 Montana (0-0) 626 NR
25 Youngstown State (0-0) 541 NR

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:58 pm
by VandalBasher
http://www.lazindex.com/ncaa.php?sort=div

50 1 North Dakota St Bison FCS 1.122 0 0 112.24 Missouri Valley
65 2 James Madison Dukes FCS 1.086 0 0 108.6 Colonial Athletic
76 3 South Dakota St Jackrabbits FCS 1.064 0 0 106.44 Missouri Valley
88 4 Northern Iowa Panthers FCS 1.044 0 0 104.38 Missouri Valley
92 5 Youngstown St Penguins FCS 1.037 0 0 103.69 Missouri Valley
101 6 Western Illinois Leathernecks FCS 1.017 0 0 101.65 Missouri Valley
105 7 Illinois St Red Birds FCS 1.007 0 0 100.65 Missouri Valley
107 8 Eastern Washington Eagles FCS 1.002 0 0 100.15 Big Sky
109 9 Jacksonville St Gamecocks FCS 1 0 0 100.03 Ohio Valley
110 10 Southern Utah Thunderbirds FCS 0.999 0 0 99.88 Big Sky
112 11 South Dakota Coyotes FCS 0.994 0 0 99.41 Missouri Valley
113 12 Weber St Wildcats FCS 0.993 0 0 99.28 Big Sky
120 13 Richmond Spiders FCS 0.983 0 0 98.27 Colonial Athletic
122 14 Central Arkansas Bears FCS 0.98 0 0 98.05 Southland
123 15 Montana Grizzlies FCS 0.98 0 0 98.04 Big Sky
124 16 Sam Houston St Bearkats FCS 0.978 0 0 97.78 Southland
131 17 Villanova Wildcats FCS 0.965 0 0 96.52 Colonial Athletic
132 18 Idaho Vandals FCS 0.965 0 0 96.52 Big Sky
135 19 Samford Bulldogs FCS 0.959 0 0 95.86 Southern
136 20 Furman Paladins FCS 0.958 0 0 95.84 Southern
138 21 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks FCS 0.957 0 0 95.66 Big Sky
139 22 Southern Illinois Salukis FCS 0.953 0 0 95.27 Missouri Valley
140 23 Delaware Blue Hens FCS 0.952 0 0 95.2 Colonial Athletic
141 24 Montana St Bobcats FCS 0.95 0 0 95.03 Big Sky
142 25 Wofford Terriers FCS 0.95 0 0 94.96 Southern

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:58 pm
by VandalBasher
https://www.fcsfansnation.com/stories/2 ... ence-games

Jamie Williams’ preseason top 10:
1. North Dakota State
2. James Madison
3. Kennesaw State
4. New Hampshire
5. South Dakota State
6. Jacksonville State
7. Eastern Washington
8. Sam Houston State
9. Samford
10. Weber State

Re: AGS Preseason Poll

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:58 pm
by VandalBasher
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/s ... 2018/team/

1 36 North Dakota State AA = 77.79 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 77.79 36 | 77.79 36 | 77.79 36
2 66 South Dakota State AA = 70.28 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 70.28 66 | 70.28 66 | 70.28 66
3 78 Northern Iowa AA = 67.27 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 67.27 78 | 67.27 78 | 67.27 78
4 80 James Madison AA = 66.67 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 66.67 80 | 66.67 80 | 66.67 80
5 91 Youngstown State AA = 63.89 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 63.89 91 | 63.89 91 | 63.89 91
6 99 Illinois State AA = 61.39 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 61.39 99 | 61.39 99 | 61.39 99
7 100 Eastern Washington AA = 61.14 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 61.14 100 | 61.14 100 | 61.14 100
8 101 Samford AA = 60.92 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 60.92 101 | 60.92 101 | 60.92 101
9 105 Sam Houston State AA = 59.84 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 59.84 105 | 59.84 105 | 59.84 105
10 112 South Dakota AA = 58.35 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 58.35 112 | 58.35 112 | 58.35 112
11 114 New Hampshire AA = 58.28 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 58.28 114 | 58.28 114 | 58.28 114
12 118 Weber State AA = 57.66 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 57.66 118 | 57.66 118 | 57.66 118
13 119 Jacksonville State AA = 57.28 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 57.28 119 | 57.28 119 | 57.28 119
14 125 Western Illinois AA = 56.70 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 56.70 125 | 56.70 125 | 56.70 125
15 128 Wofford AA = 55.62 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 55.62 128 | 55.62 128 | 55.62 128
16 129 Delaware AA = 55.37 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 55.37 129 | 55.37 129 | 55.37 129
17 131 Northern Arizona AA = 55.24 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 55.24 131 | 55.24 131 | 55.24 131
18 133 Idaho AA = 54.26 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 54.26 133 | 54.26 133 | 54.26 133
19 135 Stony Brook AA = 53.98 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 53.98 135 | 53.98 135 | 53.98 135
20 136 Montana AA = 53.69 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 53.69 136 | 53.69 136 | 53.69 136
21 137 Southern Utah AA = 53.56 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 53.56 137 | 53.56 137 | 53.56 137
22 141 Southern Illinois AA = 52.74 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 52.74 141 | 52.74 141 | 52.74 141
23 142 Villanova AA = 52.70 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 52.70 142 | 52.70 142 | 52.70 142
24 144 Kennesaw State AA = 52.10 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 52.10 144 | 52.10 144 | 52.10 144
25 145 Furman AA = 52.10 0 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 52.10 145 | 52.10 145 | 52.10 145