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um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:27 pm
by SACCAT
GO!!!

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:34 pm
by Grizalltheway
I refuse to post in a thread without proper capitalization.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:36 pm
by JohnStOnge
UNI is the favorite.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:46 pm
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
Grizalltheway wrote:I refuse to post in a thread without proper capitalization.
i aM sUre we can get daL to hElp us out hERe

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:53 pm
by SeattleGriz
Great game. Can Montana exploit the UNI secondary enough to win? Montana has a bunch of new wide receivers.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:02 pm
by AZGrizFan
SeattleGriz wrote:Great game. Can Montana exploit the UNI secondary enough to win? Montana has a bunch of new wide receivers.
Does uni have an expoitable secondary?

Re: RE: Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:13 pm
by SeattleGriz
AZGrizFan wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Great game. Can Montana exploit the UNI secondary enough to win? Montana has a bunch of new wide receivers.
Does uni have an expoitable secondary?
Some of their secondary that graduated were studs. Be hard to fill those shoes this early...I hope. Clenz said they started a WR at the CB position with seven days experience.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:20 pm
by SACCAT
Grizalltheway wrote:I refuse to post in a thread without proper capitalization.
I refuse to capitalize um.

Re: RE: Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:31 pm
by clenz
SeattleGriz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Does uni have an expoitable secondary?
Some of their secondary that graduated were studs. Be hard to fill those shoes this early...I hope. Clenz said they started a WR at the CB position with seven days experience.
I'm not overly concerned with our secondary but they will give up yards.

They gave up 235 to Iowa State, though that was mostly because Iowa State has a WR that doesn't belong at Iowa State and he made some damn fine catches. He had 126 of those yards on his 6 catches. He belongs at OU, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, etc... but he grew up an Iowa State fan and good for him for jumping at the chance to play for his home town team.

Even looking at last year, where the secondary had 2 guys currently on the 53 man roster of Green Bay and Chicago, along with a third at saftey that was a three time all conference/all american player, UNI finished 6th or 7th in the conference at yards given up/defensive efficiency. If I remember right UNI gave up about 240 through the air per game last season. UNI plays man with the corners and zone with the backers and and saftey spots.

The key to the secondary is the fact the run defense and pass rush is as good as it gets. Last season UNI gave up like 3.1 ypc for the season. UNI held Iowa State's Mike Warren, who lead all FBS freshman last season with 1,339 yards to 30 yards on 12 carries and Iowa State to 51 yards on 26 carries.

I saw a quote from Stitt that said he won't sell out to pressure the QB because it opens up the run game, but that is another strength UNI relies on. UNI is at/near the top of the FCS every year in sacks/TFL while being one of the top run defense in the league. UNI had 3 or 4 sacks and 7 (I think) TFL vs Iowa State last week. UNI dares you to beat them through the air because the front 4 is good enough to pressure the QB before he has time to let a 7 step drop develop and the LBs are fast enough to react to run/pass.

So yes, the secondary is there to be exploited....if you can.

As for starting a WR at DB. He started his career at DB and moved to WR the second half of 2 years ago and played there full time last season because of the depth at DB. This year there is an abundance of young WR. UNI started a FR and a JR at WR against ISU and rotated in 3 freshman, a sophomore, and one senior. There are 20 DB's listed on this years roster but 14 of them are true freshman, redshirt freshman or sophomores. The starter that the WR started in place of was a 2 year starter at Fresno State. The other corner is a senior that likely played anywhere but UNI and NDSU the last 3 years in the MVFC. The strong safety is a 4* transfer from Florida State that saw significant PT as a freshman before a knee injury last year. The other safety is a transfer from NIU that played in all 13 games last season for the Huksies. Farley has said the talent is there, it's just finding what pieces fit where...but until that happens, who knows.

If Gus has time he can make plays with the WRs, but UNI will do everything to make sure he gets happy feet early

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:03 pm
by Grizalltheway
SACCAT wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:I refuse to post in a thread without proper capitalization.
I refuse to capitalize um.
Whatever man. See if I ever capitalize the gianforte school of computer science.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:19 pm
by SACCAT
Grizalltheway wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
I refuse to capitalize um.
Whatever man. See if I ever capitalize the gianforte school of computer science.
Don't be mad, I wouldn't expect you to...Also he is only like the 5th biggest donor in recent years....It should be called the Jake Jabs "Thank God his daughter got caught running cocaine, so he gave us 50 million" school of business...

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:43 pm
by Grizalltheway
SACCAT wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Whatever man. See if I ever capitalize the gianforte school of computer science.
Don't be mad, I wouldn't expect you to...Also he is only like the 5th biggest donor in recent years....It should be called the Jake Jabs "Thank God his daughter got caught running cocaine, so he gave us 50 million" school of business...
But did he stipulate that every classroom has to have a picture of Jebus in it?

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:04 pm
by clenz
Z, did you ever decide if you were flying in for the game?

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:07 pm
by SACCAT
Grizalltheway wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
Don't be mad, I wouldn't expect you to...Also he is only like the 5th biggest donor in recent years....It should be called the Jake Jabs "Thank God his daughter got caught running cocaine, so he gave us 50 million" school of business...
But did he stipulate that every classroom has to have a picture of Jebus in it?
No, only stipulation was, no chalk can be used....To many bad memories.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:11 pm
by Grizalltheway
SACCAT wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: But did he stipulate that every classroom has to have a picture of Jebus in it?
No, only stipulation was, no chalk can be used....To many bad memories.
I meant gianforte, but :lol:

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:27 am
by kalm
clenz wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Some of their secondary that graduated were studs. Be hard to fill those shoes this early...I hope. Clenz said they started a WR at the CB position with seven days experience.
I'm not overly concerned with our secondary but they will give up yards.

They gave up 235 to Iowa State, though that was mostly because Iowa State has a WR that doesn't belong at Iowa State and he made some damn fine catches. He had 126 of those yards on his 6 catches. He belongs at OU, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, etc... but he grew up an Iowa State fan and good for him for jumping at the chance to play for his home town team.

Even looking at last year, where the secondary had 2 guys currently on the 53 man roster of Green Bay and Chicago, along with a third at saftey that was a three time all conference/all american player, UNI finished 6th or 7th in the conference at yards given up/defensive efficiency. If I remember right UNI gave up about 240 through the air per game last season. UNI plays man with the corners and zone with the backers and and saftey spots.

The key to the secondary is the fact the run defense and pass rush is as good as it gets. Last season UNI gave up like 3.1 ypc for the season. UNI held Iowa State's Mike Warren, who lead all FBS freshman last season with 1,339 yards to 30 yards on 12 carries and Iowa State to 51 yards on 26 carries.

I saw a quote from Stitt that said he won't sell out to pressure the QB because it opens up the run game, but that is another strength UNI relies on. UNI is at/near the top of the FCS every year in sacks/TFL while being one of the top run defense in the league. UNI had 3 or 4 sacks and 7 (I think) TFL vs Iowa State last week. UNI dares you to beat them through the air because the front 4 is good enough to pressure the QB before he has time to let a 7 step drop develop and the LBs are fast enough to react to run/pass.

So yes, the secondary is there to be exploited....if you can.

If Gus has time he can make plays with the WRs, but UNI will do everything to make sure he gets happy feet early
This is the chess match I'm looking forward to in both of these match ups. UNI and NDSU both have great front 7's with good speed at linebacker, and they play aggressive. Eastern was able to get around our inexperience at o-line last week with short drops and Gubrud's quick release. He either got the ball out fast on short slants, bought time with designed roll outs, or used the threat of the read option to hold the pass defenders. I think Montana has a better oline and can also work the short passing game.

What's the counter? Adjust formations and rely on your dline to disrupt passing lanes? Come up into press with extra help over the top?

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:33 am
by Gil Dobie
I think UNI has this one.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:00 am
by SACCAT
Grizalltheway wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
No, only stipulation was, no chalk can be used....To many bad memories.
I meant gianforte, but :lol:
Good luck this weekend...I hope Jebus is on your side.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:03 pm
by SeattleGriz
kalm wrote:
clenz wrote: I'm not overly concerned with our secondary but they will give up yards.

They gave up 235 to Iowa State, though that was mostly because Iowa State has a WR that doesn't belong at Iowa State and he made some damn fine catches. He had 126 of those yards on his 6 catches. He belongs at OU, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, etc... but he grew up an Iowa State fan and good for him for jumping at the chance to play for his home town team.

Even looking at last year, where the secondary had 2 guys currently on the 53 man roster of Green Bay and Chicago, along with a third at saftey that was a three time all conference/all american player, UNI finished 6th or 7th in the conference at yards given up/defensive efficiency. If I remember right UNI gave up about 240 through the air per game last season. UNI plays man with the corners and zone with the backers and and saftey spots.

The key to the secondary is the fact the run defense and pass rush is as good as it gets. Last season UNI gave up like 3.1 ypc for the season. UNI held Iowa State's Mike Warren, who lead all FBS freshman last season with 1,339 yards to 30 yards on 12 carries and Iowa State to 51 yards on 26 carries.

I saw a quote from Stitt that said he won't sell out to pressure the QB because it opens up the run game, but that is another strength UNI relies on. UNI is at/near the top of the FCS every year in sacks/TFL while being one of the top run defense in the league. UNI had 3 or 4 sacks and 7 (I think) TFL vs Iowa State last week. UNI dares you to beat them through the air because the front 4 is good enough to pressure the QB before he has time to let a 7 step drop develop and the LBs are fast enough to react to run/pass.

So yes, the secondary is there to be exploited....if you can.

If Gus has time he can make plays with the WRs, but UNI will do everything to make sure he gets happy feet early
This is the chess match I'm looking forward to in both of these match ups. UNI and NDSU both have great front 7's with good speed at linebacker, and they play aggressive. Eastern was able to get around our inexperience at o-line last week with short drops and Gubrud's quick release. He either got the ball out fast on short slants, bought time with designed roll outs, or used the threat of the read option to hold the pass defenders. I think Montana has a better oline and can also work the short passing game.

What's the counter? Adjust formations and rely on your dline to disrupt passing lanes? Come up into press with extra help over the top?
Me too! REALLY glad both games are on ESPN3. NAU at WIU is another classic Big Sky vs MVFC.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:27 pm
by SeattleGriz
Tape gate bitches! UNI is still bitter, but will lose...and then cry...like last time.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:03 am
by Bisonfanatical
Can't see how UNI could possibly lose this game ... Griz had a hard time beating a non-ranked and very average team ... in their own house?

We will see what we will see

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Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:09 am
by Bisonfanatical
Can't see how UNI could possibly lose this game ... Griz had a hard time beating a non-ranked and very average team ... in their own house?

We will see what we will see

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Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:10 am
by 93henfan
AZGrizFan wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Great game. Can Montana exploit the UNI secondary enough to win? Montana has a bunch of new wide receivers.
Does uni have an expoitable secondary?
You might want to exploit the spell check function!

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:22 pm
by Bison56
Bisonfanatical wrote:Can't see how UNI could possibly lose this game ... Griz had a hard time beating a non-ranked and very average team ... in their own house?

We will see what we will see

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Heard you the first time.

Re: um-UNI GAME THREAD!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:25 pm
by Bisonfanatical
Must be my phone ... I have seen a couple places where it posted twice

FWIW ....not intentional

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