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Breaking on local 910am ESPN. CSU and The Citadel have agreed on a renewal of the in city rivalry beginning in 2018. Excellent news. Hoping we get it before then in the playoffs.

I also saw the Post and Courier said Citadel is considering tearing down their visitor side of the stadium to redo it. Good idea....if they take that side down....can we have it ( ) our stadium could use the seats!

I've said all along that CSU not being on the schedule was purely a matter of strains in our SoCon scheduling - which was true. Note that as soon as we got our flexibility back CSU is back

all the pissing and moaning from your fan base notwithstanding


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bucs90 wrote:I also saw the Post and Courier said Citadel is considering tearing down their visitor side of the stadium to redo it. Good idea....if they take that side down....can we have it ( ) our stadium could use the seats!

I wonder how many dead soldiers and sailors they'll find.

CID1990 wrote:I've said all along that CSU not being on the schedule was purely a matter of strains in our SoCon scheduling - which was true. Note that as soon as we got our flexibility back CSU is back

all the pissing and moaning from your fan base notwithstanding


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Well its a good thing. It brings a lot of local attention to both schools. A lot of healthy competitive energy. And two really good teams.

Ibanez wrote:

bucs90 wrote:I also saw the Post and Courier said Citadel is considering tearing down their visitor side of the stadium to redo it. Good idea....if they take that side down....can we have it ( ) our stadium could use the seats!

I wonder how many dead soldiers and sailors they'll find.

Well if the new Citadel visitor side is as nice as the home side it will be a fantastic looking visitor side and boost the stadium even more.

Which sucks for CSU because our property tax bill will go up......

Ibanez wrote:

bucs90 wrote:I also saw the Post and Courier said Citadel is considering tearing down their visitor side of the stadium to redo it. Good idea....if they take that side down....can we have it ( ) our stadium could use the seats!

I wonder how many dead soldiers and sailors they'll find.

None. The part of Potter's field that is covered by the visitors side isnt war era




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It's a 4 game deal. Probably will renew it again after that.

They need to come up with some kind of trophy Iike Chadwell said. The Mayors Cup. North Charleston and Charleston mayors can bet a dinner on the game like others do in other series. There's a lot of potentially fun stuff that the area can do with this series.

CID1990 wrote:

Ibanez wrote: I wonder how many dead soldiers and sailors they'll find.

None. The part of Potter's field that is covered by the visitors side isnt war era




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It was a joke, Louise.

They are talking about tearing down the current visitors' side, not replacing it.

It's ugly, covered in lead paint and almost always nearly empty. There is no point in spending funds to maintain it.

Citadel AD on local radio now discussing the deal. It's a pretty good and fair deal. Citadel gets all 4 at home. He said it simply made sense bc BOTH teams would make more $$$. Citadel typically gives opponents 350 or so tickets. The deal will give CSU 3000 tickets to sell and CSU keeps 100% of that revenue. CSU home games are $10 I think. Citadels I believe are $20 maybe? So CSU will pocket that $$ while having no expenses.

He quickly side stepped the question about a CSU home game. I know CSU wanted at least a 3 away/1 home deal. But all in all...I think the deal The Citadel offered is very very fair. We get the game we want. They get it all at home. Fans of both teams win because hey...game is happening, and we won't be scrambling for tickets this time. We wanted the home game and we got it twice. As much as I love the CSU football program....they "other side" of campus has little interest in truly investing in the stadium, so I'm happy just seeing the game is back.

CitadelGrad wrote:They are talking about tearing down the current visitors' side, not replacing it.

It's ugly, covered in lead paint and almost always nearly empty. There is no point in spending funds to maintain it.

Its gonna be one of the best stadiums in FCS once they do the visitors side.

CitadelGrad wrote:They are talking about tearing down the current visitors' side, not replacing it.

It's ugly, covered in lead paint and almost always nearly empty. There is no point in spending funds to maintain it.

I'm not sure how many games or which games you've been attending, but for the past few seasons I went to most games and the visitor side was hardly "nearly empty." Some schools don't travel well, but Citadel fans have come out in great numbers.

bucs90 wrote:Citadel AD on local radio now discussing the deal. It's a pretty good and fair deal. Citadel gets all 4 at home. He said it simply made sense bc BOTH teams would make more $$$. Citadel typically gives opponents 350 or so tickets. The deal will give CSU 3000 tickets to sell and CSU keeps 100% of that revenue. CSU home games are $10 I think. Citadels I believe are $20 maybe? So CSU will pocket that $$ while having no expenses.

He quickly side stepped the question about a CSU home game. I know CSU wanted at least a 3 away/1 home deal. But all in all...I think the deal The Citadel offered is very very fair. We get the game we want. They get it all at home. Fans of both teams win because hey...game is happening, and we won't be scrambling for tickets this time. We wanted the home game and we got it twice. As much as I love the CSU football program....they "other side" of campus has little interest in truly investing in the stadium, so I'm happy just seeing the game is back.

Of course they want all 4 at home. The Citadel has a larger fan base and Johnson Hagood has the capacity that Buccaneer Stadium just doesn't.

Ibanez wrote:

bucs90 wrote:Citadel AD on local radio now discussing the deal. It's a pretty good and fair deal. Citadel gets all 4 at home. He said it simply made sense bc BOTH teams would make more $$$. Citadel typically gives opponents 350 or so tickets. The deal will give CSU 3000 tickets to sell and CSU keeps 100% of that revenue. CSU home games are $10 I think. Citadels I believe are $20 maybe? So CSU will pocket that $$ while having no expenses.

He quickly side stepped the question about a CSU home game. I know CSU wanted at least a 3 away/1 home deal. But all in all...I think the deal The Citadel offered is very very fair. We get the game we want. They get it all at home. Fans of both teams win because hey...game is happening, and we won't be scrambling for tickets this time. We wanted the home game and we got it twice. As much as I love the CSU football program....they "other side" of campus has little interest in truly investing in the stadium, so I'm happy just seeing the game is back.

Of course they want all 4 at home. The Citadel has a larger fan base and Johnson Hagood has the capacity that Buccaneer Stadium just doesn't.

Both true. Getting them at our place was more of a symbolic thing and we won both times. Yes I agree. Now it's fine to play them all there. The whole goal was always to get close-to-equal media attention for us and we've done that.


When the day comes that Chadwell leaves, I'm hoping our DC Chad Staggs gets the head job. Honestly as good as Chadwell has been, Staggs and that defense are a HUGE reason for the success. CSU had some years that the D was very good in the past (2000, 2005) and it slipped. Nice that the D is back and better than ever.

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Ibanez wrote: Of course they want all 4 at home. The Citadel has a larger fan base and Johnson Hagood has the capacity that Buccaneer Stadium just doesn't.

Both true. Getting them at our place was more of a symbolic thing and we won both times. Yes I agree. Now it's fine to play them all there. The whole goal was always to get close-to-equal media attention for us and we've done that.


When the day comes that Chadwell leaves, I'm hoping our DC Chad Staggs gets the head job. Honestly as good as Chadwell has been, Staggs and that defense are a HUGE reason for the success. CSU had some years that the D was very good in the past (2000, 2005) and it slipped. Nice that the D is back and better than ever.

Chadwell has done more in 4 years than Mills ever did. Truth. Chadwell should get a statue.

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bucs90 wrote:
Both true. Getting them at our place was more of a symbolic thing and we won both times. Yes I agree. Now it's fine to play them all there. The whole goal was always to get close-to-equal media attention for us and we've done that.


When the day comes that Chadwell leaves, I'm hoping our DC Chad Staggs gets the head job. Honestly as good as Chadwell has been, Staggs and that defense are a HUGE reason for the success. CSU had some years that the D was very good in the past (2000, 2005) and it slipped. Nice that the D is back and better than ever.

Chadwell has done more in 4 years than Mills ever did. Truth. Chadwell should get a statue.

He has done more. Honestly each of CSUs head coaches took the program to new heights.

Dowd: Took them from 1989 club team to D3....to D1-AA in 1993 (horrible seasons)....to 1999/2000 when they were around .500 and beat Liberty for first time and pushing teams like Samford, SC State and Wofford to the buzzer or OT (never did "learn to win the close ones", that was Dowds biggest issue, couldn't pull the close ones out)
Mills: Took the torch from 35 scholarships and Dowd era to 65 scholarships and won Big South in 2005. Really got CSU over the hump from 2004-2008. Ended bad though just lost energy.
Chadwell.....enough said. We know where his staff has taken it. He's done FAR more than anything the other 2 did....but in fairness...he's got far more to work with also due to progress made during those previous 2 coaches time.

I applaud all 3 for taking CSU from where it was up to the next plateau. It's not an easy place to do it and all three broke barriers.

I think CSU should pay Chadwell a bunch of money to stay

maybe start a Ponzi scheme or something


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CID1990 wrote:I think CSU should pay Chadwell a bunch of money to stay

maybe start a Ponzi scheme or something


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CSU Ponzu Schemes are so 2008.

CID1990 wrote:I think CSU should pay Chadwell a bunch of money to stay

maybe start a Ponzi scheme or something


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Ha! I see what you did there.

We won't be able to match what he could make somewhere bigger. Our wild cards however are that he is a very religious guy and he and his family LOVE Charleston. So we have 2 non financial things on our side. But it won't be enough. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up at Wofford when Mike Ayers retires since he runs an option offense also. Or...if things don't improve at his alma mater ETSU maybe he holds out for that job.

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CID1990 wrote:I think CSU should pay Chadwell a bunch of money to stay

maybe start a Ponzi scheme or something


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Ha! I see what you did there.

We won't be able to match what he could make somewhere bigger. Our wild cards however are that he is a very religious guy and he and his family LOVE Charleston. So we have 2 non financial things on our side. But it won't be enough. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up at Wofford when Mike Ayers retires since he runs an option offense also. Or...if things don't improve at his alma mater ETSU maybe he holds out for that job.

Mike Houston's family loved Charleston too, and Houston himself really liked the atmosphere and military aspect of El Cid

but in the end a coach is going to do what is right for his family and that means $$$

Wofford wont pay enough to dislodge Chadwell from Chas. When the bigger schools come knocking look for it to come from the CAA or similar.


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CID1990 wrote:

bucs90 wrote:
Ha! I see what you did there.

We won't be able to match what he could make somewhere bigger. Our wild cards however are that he is a very religious guy and he and his family LOVE Charleston. So we have 2 non financial things on our side. But it won't be enough. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up at Wofford when Mike Ayers retires since he runs an option offense also. Or...if things don't improve at his alma mater ETSU maybe he holds out for that job.

Mike Houston's family loved Charleston too, and Houston himself really liked the atmosphere and military aspect of El Cid

but in the end a coach is going to do what is right for his family and that means $$$

Wofford wont pay enough to dislodge Chadwell from Chas. When the bigger schools come knocking look for it to come from the CAA or similar.


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All true except Wofford. I'd bet they can pay much more. CSU head coaches make very little compared to other FCS. Dowd and Mills both made like 80k I believe. Can't imagine Chadwell is much higher. With inflation he's probably like 110 or 120. What's that...half of what Citadel pays? Wofford could easily top it. That's pure speculation obviously bc Ayers has plenty of time left there.

I agree w CAA types. I don't think Chadwell is the type to take an assistant job at a big FBS school like Higgins did.

bucs90 wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Mike Houston's family loved Charleston too, and Houston himself really liked the atmosphere and military aspect of El Cid

but in the end a coach is going to do what is right for his family and that means $$$

Wofford wont pay enough to dislodge Chadwell from Chas. When the bigger schools come knocking look for it to come from the CAA or similar.


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All true except Wofford. I'd bet they can pay much more. CSU head coaches make very little compared to other FCS. Dowd and Mills both made like 80k I believe. Can't imagine Chadwell is much higher. With inflation he's probably like 110 or 120. What's that...half of what Citadel pays? Wofford could easily top it. That's pure speculation obviously bc Ayers has plenty of time left there.

I agree w CAA types. I don't think Chadwell is the type to take an assistant job at a big FBS school like Higgins did.

Houston was making $210k/year, and with all the wins last season he had a $23,500 bonus.

Chadwells salary isn't known.

bucs90 wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Mike Houston's family loved Charleston too, and Houston himself really liked the atmosphere and military aspect of El Cid

but in the end a coach is going to do what is right for his family and that means $$$

Wofford wont pay enough to dislodge Chadwell from Chas. When the bigger schools come knocking look for it to come from the CAA or similar.


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All true except Wofford. I'd bet they can pay much more. CSU head coaches make very little compared to other FCS. Dowd and Mills both made like 80k I believe. Can't imagine Chadwell is much higher. With inflation he's probably like 110 or 120. What's that...half of what Citadel pays? Wofford could easily top it. That's pure speculation obviously bc Ayers has plenty of time left there.

I agree w CAA types. I don't think Chadwell is the type to take an assistant job at a big FBS school like Higgins did.

I didn't say Wofford can't - I said Wofford won't.


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CID1990 wrote:

bucs90 wrote:
All true except Wofford. I'd bet they can pay much more. CSU head coaches make very little compared to other FCS. Dowd and Mills both made like 80k I believe. Can't imagine Chadwell is much higher. With inflation he's probably like 110 or 120. What's that...half of what Citadel pays? Wofford could easily top it. That's pure speculation obviously bc Ayers has plenty of time left there.

I agree w CAA types. I don't think Chadwell is the type to take an assistant job at a big FBS school like Higgins did.

I didn't say Wofford can't - I said Wofford won't.


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Ah I see. No point speculating. The job isn't even rumored to be opening. Just think he'd be a good fit there.