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FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:40 am
by clenz
Per Craig Haley
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i ... m=&src=FCS

(STATS) - The FCS conferences whose national playoffs have long set them apart in Division I want to go "bowling" as well.
Those 10 conferences still embrace the playoffs, which have grown from four participants in 1978 to 24 beginning in 2013, but they also want to incorporate an idea of two conferences whose champions are not involved in the playoffs - the MEAC and SWAC.
The champions of the two FCS conferences of historically black schools met in the inaugural Celebration Bowl this past December. The playoff conferences want their championship game, played in early January in Frisco, Texas, to be rebranded with the word "bowl" in the title as well.
They believe the Celebration Bowl gained considerably by being marketed within the FBS bowl schedule. The FBS, the upper level of Division I, had 41 postseason games this past season, including the four-team playoff that began with the 2014 season.
The Missouri Valley Football Conference, home to five-time reigning FCS champion North Dakota State, is a driving force behind the possible rebranding of the championship game. The NCAA and ESPN, which along with its partner networks televise the entire FCS playoffs and most of the FBS postseason, would have to approve a new name, an idea presented to them when FCS conference commissioners met in late January in Florida.
The Big Sky, Big South, Colonial Athletic, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Pioneer, Southern and Southland conferences also participate in the playoffs, which is composed of 10 automatic qualifiers and 14 at-large selections. The MEAC and SWAC are eligible to have at-large qualifiers, although none gained bids in the first year of the Celebration Bowl, while the Ivy League is the only one of 13 FCS conferences not to participate in a postseason.
"The public understands playoffs, so we benefit from that for the first rounds of the championship," said Patty Viverito, commissioner of both the MVFC and the Pioneer League. "But then when it comes time for the championship game, because it's in the mix of what is the bowl frenzy, it gets lost. So we think we can have the best of both worlds by having the playoffs leading up to the 'Football Championship Bowl' - however it is branded, but with the name 'bowl' so that we become part of the bowl lineup."
Interest in the FCS playoffs has risen during North Dakota State's dynasty. The Bison's championship win over Jacksonville State on Jan. 9 averaged 1.35 million viewers during the ESPN2 broadcast, according to Sports TV Ratings. The Toyota Stadium crowd of 21,836 was the largest of the six finals that have been played in Frisco.
Title sponsorship isn't a necessity with a rebranded championship, although the FCS conferences would consider it. The game between MEAC and SWAC champions, played in Atlanta, is officially the Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl.
"To be in the same space, if you will, as the FBS bowls was absolutely tremendous," MEAC commissioner Dr. Dennis Thomas said. "We were the first game on ABC to start the bowl season. It was branded that way, it was marketed that way, it was promoted that way."
It's exactly the concept the other FCS conferences envision with a possible championship bowl.

Sounds like nothing would change, other than the name.

Good idea or not?

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:48 am
by dbackjon
I don't think it will make a difference, but DIII championship is already the Stagg Bowl, so couldn't hurt.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:49 am
by clenz
dbackjon wrote:I don't think it will make a difference, but DIII championship is already the Stagg Bowl, so couldn't hurt.
Maybe branding it as a bowl would get ESPN to advertise it as such.

Couldn't hurt it.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:14 pm
by vutomcat
Marketing strategy that seems to make sense. Don't see much downside.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:19 pm
by JohnStOnge
I guess it can't hurt. But I must say that I think the success level of the Celebration Bowl has been exaggerated. Like for instance they claim there were 35,000 people at the game and there is no way. The Georgia Dome's seating capacity is 71,250, so 35,000 would mean very close to half full. Watch the video below for long enough to see them pan around the stadium and ask yourself if there's any way the stadium is anywhere even remotely CLOSE to half full.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31aFwODdoBY[/youtube]

Here's a still shot of one of the more crowded sections of the stadium:

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There's just no way they had anything close to 35,000 people there.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:57 am
by YoUDeeMan
Hey, John, maybe there were 35,000 people there...but most of the fathers got up and left.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:07 am
by bluehenbillk
The Championship used to have a bowl name attached to it - at least before FCS when most schools were D2. As stated D3 is technically a bowl, I don't think it makes a big difference. If you call it a bowl & it's included in ESPN's Bowl Mania then more people will pay attention to it.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:16 pm
by Grizalltheway
I guess it might help from a promotional standpoint, but I think it would make a lot of people think of it as a glorified exhibition game like the rest of the bowls.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:07 pm
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:I guess it might help from a promotional standpoint, but I think it would make a lot of people think of it as a glorified exhibition game like the rest of the bowls.
+1

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:24 pm
by GAD_SU
JohnStOnge wrote:I guess it can't hurt. But I must say that I think the success level of the Celebration Bowl has been exaggerated. Like for instance they claim there were 35,000 people at the game and there is no way. The Georgia Dome's seating capacity is 71,250, so 35,000 would mean very close to half full. Watch the video below for long enough to see them pan around the stadium and ask yourself if there's any way the stadium is anywhere even remotely CLOSE to half full.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31aFwODdoBY[/youtube]

Here's a still shot of one of the more crowded sections of the stadium:

Image

There's just no way they had anything close to 35,000 people there.
How many do you think were there? What do you consider good attendance at an FCS game?

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:33 pm
by JohnStOnge
How many do you think were there? What do you consider good attendance at an FCS game?
Honestly I'd estimate actual attendance was somewhere in the vicinity of 10,000. And I say that because what I'm doing is looking at the stadium capacity and looking at how many empty seats there appear to be as compared to how many seats with people in them. And I don't think saying there look to be somewhere around 6 empty seats for each filled one is unreasonable. Anybody can watch the video for themselves and wait until they see enough panning around to get a feel. But I think if you do that you will find that the screen shot I did shows one of the more crowded areas. It was a very empty looking stadium. This thing about there being 35,000 in attendance is seen as absurd when one looks at the video of the game and sees how empty the stadium was.

Again: 35,000 would mean that there would be about as many filled seats as empty seats. You can see that that's obviously not even anywhere close to being the case.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:11 pm
by clenz
So seems consensus with CS posters is why not and AGS is FUCK NO

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:16 pm
by Grizalltheway
clenz wrote:So seems consensus with CS posters is why not and AGS is FUCK NO
The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the fuck no side. Especially if they include the sponsor name in it, which they undoubtedly would.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:17 pm
by clenz
I was initially for it but Leann g towards no now as well

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:52 am
by 89Hen
clenz wrote:I was initially for it but Leann g towards no now as well
Looking back I think the consensus here was 'meh'.

Re: FCS Championship....Bowl Game?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:40 am
by YoUDeeMan
clenz wrote:So seems consensus with CS posters is why not and AGS is FUCK NO
AGS. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: