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Sources told FootballScoop tonight that Liberty, an FCS program located in Lynchburg Virginia, will become the first FCS program to provide “cost of attendance” dollars to their athletes.

Following the “power five” conferences’ lead, Liberty, which has been rumored to be looking to move up, is taking the bold step of possibly being the only FCS program to cover these costs, which some estimates project at nearly $2 million to the university.

Sources tell FootballScoop that Liberty has begun to inform their student athletes of the decision and will begin making the payments this Fall.

Turner Gill’s program went 9-5 on the field last season, losing in the second round of the NCAA playoffs.

Will update as more becomes clear. Stay tuned…


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I haven't been following along with this story. Please help me fill in the pieces.

Is Liberty is going to pay every athlete the same, or will it be tiered?
Will that give the university more/less control over said athletes?
How do the regular Joe students feel about this?
a) Do they even care that monies from their education fees will be given away and not reinvested in the school?

grizzaholic wrote:I haven't been following along with this story. Please help me fill in the pieces.

Is Liberty is going to pay every athlete the same, or will it be tiered?
Will that give the university more/less control over said athletes?
How do the regular Joe students feel about this?
a) Do they even care that monies from their education fees will be given away and not reinvested in the school?

I think the same
more control
They are not allowed to have an opinion
Profits from on-line education - think the ripoff degrees SH got funded by you and I

You sure this isn't The Onion?

I for one, even as a Liberty fan, don't approve of this, whether it's Liberty OR the P5. The schollied education ought to be enough....

The rich (Power 5 conferences....and private schools like Liberty) just got richer. What little chance state run FCS schools ever had of getting high end athletes just flew out the window.

On a local level....I wonder how long until Grand Canyon University catches on? They are flush with online degree money as well.

SuperHornet wrote:You sure this isn't The Onion?

I for one, even as a Liberty fan, don't approve of this, whether it's Liberty OR the P5. The schollied education ought to be enough....

No, it isn't The Onion. He included the link at the bottom of his post.

dbackjon wrote: They are not allowed to have an opinion

I definitely got the feeling when I was at the NAU @ GCU basketball game a few weeks ago that dissent, of any kind, is strictly verboten on campus.

I've been on the campus of many private Catholic colleges (Gonzaga, U San Diego, U San Francisco, Santa Clara, Seattle U, U of Mary, Carroll College) and a handful of midwest Protestant colleges but I have to say that they didn't give me the same "Big Brother is watching" vibe that GCU did.

mtjack wrote:The rich (Power 5 conferences....and private schools like Liberty) just got richer. What little chance state run FCS schools ever had of getting high end athletes just flew out the window.

On a local level....I wonder how long until Grand Canyon University catches on? They are flush with online degree money as well.

I was thinking the same thing - they have the same cash source as Liberty - they already buy players overseas, this will only accelerate things.

mtjack wrote:

dbackjon wrote: They are not allowed to have an opinion

I definitely got the feeling when I was at the NAU @ GCU basketball game a few weeks ago that dissent, of any kind, is strictly verboten on campus.

I've been on the campus of many private Catholic colleges (Gonzaga, U San Diego, U San Francisco, Santa Clara, Seattle U, U of Mary, Carroll College) and a handful of midwest Protestant colleges but I have to say that they didn't give me the same "Big Brother is watching" vibe that GCU did.

Yup - when my buddy DJ lit up a cigarette outside after the game, I was expecting floodlights and a crew of security to surround us.

dbackjon wrote: Yup - when my buddy DJ lit up a cigarette outside after the game, I was expecting floodlights and a crew of security to surround us.

So, did they?

Libertine wrote:

dbackjon wrote: Yup - when my buddy DJ lit up a cigarette outside after the game, I was expecting floodlights and a crew of security to surround us.

So, did they?

No - because he put it out when I told him we were in a non-smoking campus, but GCU security tried to throw me out of the game because I said a couple cuss words

dbackjon wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:I haven't been following along with this story. Please help me fill in the pieces.

Is Liberty is going to pay every athlete the same, or will it be tiered?
Will that give the university more/less control over said athletes?
How do the regular Joe students feel about this?
a) Do they even care that monies from their education fees will be given away and not reinvested in the school?

I think the same
more control
They are not allowed to have an opinion
Profits from on-line education - think the ripoff degrees SH got funded by you and I

Are you writing in haiku's now?

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

I think the same
more control
They are not allowed to have an opinion
Profits from on-line education - think the ripoff degrees SH got funded by you and I

Are you writing in haiku's now?

5
7
5

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Are you writing in haiku's now?

5
7
5

Not always.

Are you becoming a traditionalist (or a non-tradition traditionalist) as you age?

I'm getting worried about you.

dbackjon wrote:

Libertine wrote:
So, did they?

No - because he put it out when I told him we were in a non-smoking campus, but GCU security tried to throw me out of the game because I said a couple cuss words

And, did they?

Libertine wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

No - because he put it out when I told him we were in a non-smoking campus, but GCU security tried to throw me out of the game because I said a couple cuss words

And, did they?

I got my name written down and a warning - one more cuss word and I would be expelled from campus.

One of the security guys looked really embarrassed he was doing this. The other was trying to be Joe Cop.

dbackjon wrote: I got my name written down and a warning - one more cuss word and I would be expelled from campus.

One of the security guys looked really embarrassed he was doing this. The other was trying to be Joe Cop.

The Linguistic Society of America's website says there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 6,900 distinct languages spoken in the world.

That leaves a lot of room for learning some creative curse words in foreign tongues.

I doubt either the security staff or the home crowd narcs know Pashto or Ukrainian.

http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Ukrainian" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yay, internet.

So Libertine - what does this mean for Liberty? Price themselves out of the Big South?

Libertine wrote:http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Ukrainian

Yay, internet.

Why would you need to learn Ukranian unless you're goimg there?

kalm wrote:

Libertine wrote:http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Ukrainian

Yay, internet.

Why would you need to learn Ukranian unless you're goimg there?

You might wanna learn English first.

Grizalltheway wrote:

kalm wrote:
Why would you need to learn Ukranian unless you're goimg there?

You might wanna learn English first.

Sosi xyu pider, peederus.

dbackjon wrote:So Libertine - what does this mean for Liberty? Price themselves out of the Big South?

For starters, this has nothing to do whatsoever with the Big South or FCS for that matter. This is entirely about FBS and proving that from an organizational and financial standpoint, Liberty is prepared to do what is necessary at that level.
As for the Big South, the conference can't prevent it from a legal standpoint for anti-trust reasons. The Southland has already come out and said as much with regards to their own member schools.

Honestly, as much as Coastal fans are howling about Liberty doing this, it's mostly because they didn't do it first and I could certainly seem them doing it second...or third, fourth or ninth since Liberty surely will not be the only FCS program to go this direction. Face it, people. Allowing in Cost Of Attendance was the only way that the NCAA was going to survive as a governing body and, now that it's here, COA is going to be the driving force in college athletics at all levels.

Libertine wrote:http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Ukrainian
Yay, internet.

This is a definite win, Libertine. Thanks!

Libertine wrote:

dbackjon wrote:So Libertine - what does this mean for Liberty? Price themselves out of the Big South?

For starters, this has nothing to do whatsoever with the Big South or FCS for that matter. This is entirely about FBS and proving that from an organizational and financial standpoint, Liberty is prepared to do what is necessary at that level.
As for the Big South, the conference can't prevent it from a legal standpoint for anti-trust reasons. The Southland has already come out and said as much with regards to their own member schools.

Honestly, as much as Coastal fans are howling about Liberty doing this, it's mostly because they didn't do it first and I could certainly seem them doing it second...or third, fourth or ninth since Liberty surely will not be the only FCS program to go this direction. Face it, people. Allowing in Cost Of Attendance was the only way that the NCAA was going to survive as a governing body and, now that it's here, COA is going to be the driving force in college athletics at all levels.

You really are delusional. Guess I shouldn't be as surprised as I am.