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After James Madison's mysterious switching of game dates, Liberty has replaced them with a home-and-home contract with Southern Illinois (@ SIU 2015, @ Lynchburg 2019).

Take THAT, JMU....

SuperHornet wrote:After James Madison's mysterious switching of game dates, Liberty has replaced them with a home-and-home contract with Southern Illinois (@ SIU 2015, @ Lynchburg 2019).

Take THAT, JMU....

How the fuck is it mysterious? They took an FBS game, not really any mystery there.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:After James Madison's mysterious switching of game dates, Liberty has replaced them with a home-and-home contract with Southern Illinois (@ SIU 2015, @ Lynchburg 2019).

Take THAT, JMU....

How the fuck is it mysterious? They took an FBS game, not really any mystery there.

Shhhhhhh. SuperHornet thought they was sneaking one by us, and sometimes they needs to feel like they got away with something.

SuperHornet wrote:After James Madison's mysterious switching of game dates, Liberty has replaced them with a home-and-home contract with Southern Illinois (@ SIU 2015, @ Lynchburg 2019).

Take THAT, JMU....

So, Liberty replaces a playoff team (JMU) with a non playoff team (SIU) and that is a "SERIOUS" upgrade?
You're an idiot...

BDKJMU wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:After James Madison's mysterious switching of game dates, Liberty has replaced them with a home-and-home contract with Southern Illinois (@ SIU 2015, @ Lynchburg 2019).

Take THAT, JMU....

So, Liberty replaces a playoff team (JMU) with a non playoff team (SIU) and that is a "SERIOUS" upgrade?
You're an idiot...

That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

SuperHornet wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
So, Liberty replaces a playoff team (JMU) with a non playoff team (SIU) and that is a "SERIOUS" upgrade?
You're an idiot...

That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

You are aware that we all know the histories of these programs fairly well aren't you? Seriously man, just hop off the crazy train for a second. They are both quality opponents man but saying SIU is a serious upgrade over JMU is slack jawed idiocy/ Cut the shit.

93henfan wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: How the fuck is it mysterious? They took an FBS game, not really any mystery there.

Shhhhhhh. SuperHornet thought they was sneaking one by us, and sometimes they needs to feel like they got away with something.

Is this how he's been lately? Man the dude is fucking solid on creative bullshit and he ain't lost that one bit. This fucker is better at spin than I remember.

There has been talk in smoky back rooms that SH may be the slyest troll of all time.

93henfan wrote:There has been talk in smoky back rooms that SH may be the slyest troll of all time.

Ah shit I was spreading that rumor many moons ago too...when there was like 10 of us here I posed that and I gotta tell ya if he is then he is the hardest working SOB any of us have ever run across cuz he has never broke character and was doing it to a very minimal audience in the early days and it damn sure didn't slow him down.

Man, I don't know what would be better. For it to be true or not be true. So much upside either way. It really is a passion to watch the crazy unfold daily.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suc3j7jSkw[/youtube]

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

You are aware that we all know the histories of these programs fairly well aren't you? Seriously man, just hop off the crazy train for a second. They are both quality opponents man but saying SIU is a serious upgrade over JMU is slack jawed idiocy/ Cut the shit.

This is dangerously close to smack. There is another forum for that. Neg reps coming your way.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

93henfan wrote:There has been talk in smoky back rooms that SH may be the slyest troll of all time.

Ah shit I was spreading that rumor many moons ago too...when there was like 10 of us here I posed that and I gotta tell ya if he is then he is the hardest working SOB any of us have ever run across cuz he has never broke character and was doing it to a very minimal audience in the early days and it damn sure didn't slow him down.

Man, I don't know what would be better. For it to be true or not be true. So much upside either way. It really is a passion to watch the crazy unfold daily.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suc3j7jSkw[/youtube]

And just like that you totally redeem yourself!

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

93henfan wrote:There has been talk in smoky back rooms that SH may be the slyest troll of all time.

Ah shit I was spreading that rumor many moons ago too...when there was like 10 of us here I posed that and I gotta tell ya if he is then he is the hardest working SOB any of us have ever run across cuz he has never broke character and was doing it to a very minimal audience in the early days and it damn sure didn't slow him down.

Man, I don't know what would be better. For it to be true or not be true. So much upside either way. It really is a passion to watch the crazy unfold daily.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suc3j7jSkw[/youtube]

Every once in awhile there's just a tiny hint of breaking character. It's so subtle, it could go either way…keeping the troll conspiracy alive.

Personally, I think SH and JSO are the two best trolls around here.

This is what goes through my head every time I read an SH post:

kalm wrote:Personally, I think SH and JSO are the two best trolls around here.

I guess we have a different definition of 'troll'.

SuperHornet wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
So, Liberty replaces a playoff team (JMU) with a non playoff team (SIU) and that is a "SERIOUS" upgrade?
You're an idiot...

That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

It wasn't an anomaly. SIU has been pretty damn bad.

Since Dale Lennon's third season (after Kills upperclassmen were gone) SIU is sub .500 against D1 opponents AND conference opponents.

D1 games since 2010
4-6
4-7
6-5
6-5
5-6

pwned by clenz.

As per usual. SMH....

clenz wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

It wasn't an anomaly. SIU has been pretty damn bad.

Since Dale Lennon's third season (after Kills upperclassmen were gone) SIU is sub .500 against D1 opponents AND conference opponents.

D1 games since 2010
4-6
4-7
6-5
6-5
5-6

This is what seems so odd to me. I could see him making a fool hardy statement to people that don't know this shit and maybe getting by with it. Facebook, in person, maybe even on a team board where people are not as well versed as this crowd is on the matter. You make a dumb statement with zero basis like this and you are gonna get your teeth kicked in for trying to pose like you know.

D1B might be the only guy here that would have cruised by this thread and said to himself "Seems logical SH, good work". Hell he wouldn't have even cruised by this thread cuz it's on the FCS board.

AAMAF, if you take Kills years, as well as the 2 years his recruits were upperclassmen, out at SIU has just 1 10 win season in their history.

Kill has a win% of 63.2
Lennon is next at 58...but...his first two years are a direct result of Kill...19 wins. Once Kills experience was gone Lennon is 27-29....48.2%

Other coaches in the SIU history


Sam Patterson - 2-2
William Lodge - 2-2
William McAndrew (who had their previous stadium named after him) 82-80-20
Glenn Martin - 31-42-5
Will Walter - 3-14-1
William O'Brien - 6-20
Albert Kaawl - 20-15-2
Carmen Piccone - 28-20
Don Shroyer - 4-16
Ellis Rainsberger - 4-5-1
Dick Towers - 30-37-2
Doug Weaver - 3-18-1
Rey Dempsey - 54-37
Ray Dorr - 17-27
Rick Rhoades - 4-7
Shawn Watson - 11-22
Jan Quarless - 14-30
Jerry Kill - 55-32
Dale Lennon - 48-34

Taking Kill out (plus his 2 upper classmen years out and his first two years to get his guys in) SIU is 361-471-32 in their history...

That means SIU has a 44.5% win % with non-Jerry Kill kids.


I can look at JMU, but I'd have to imagine it's a hell of a lot better than what SIU has put up, especially the last decade.


Lennon is also likely to be fired after this year if he can't figure something out.

Don't know how this ended up locked but I unlocked it.

clenz wrote:AAMAF, if you take Kills years, as well as the 2 years his recruits were upperclassmen, out at SIU has just 1 10 win season in their history.

Kill has a win% of 63.2
Lennon is next at 58...but...his first two years are a direct result of Kill...19 wins. Once Kills experience was gone Lennon is 27-29....48.2%

Other coaches in the SIU history


Sam Patterson - 2-2
William Lodge - 2-2
William McAndrew (who had their previous stadium named after him) 82-80-20
Glenn Martin - 31-42-5
Will Walter - 3-14-1
William O'Brien - 6-20
Albert Kaawl - 20-15-2
Carmen Piccone - 28-20
Don Shroyer - 4-16
Ellis Rainsberger - 4-5-1
Dick Towers - 30-37-2
Doug Weaver - 3-18-1
Rey Dempsey - 54-37
Ray Dorr - 17-27
Rick Rhoades - 4-7
Shawn Watson - 11-22
Jan Quarless - 14-30
Jerry Kill - 55-32
Dale Lennon - 48-34

Taking Kill out (plus his 2 upper classmen years out and his first two years to get his guys in) SIU is 361-471-32 in their history...

That means SIU has a 44.5% win % with non-Jerry Kill kids.


I can look at JMU, but I'd have to imagine it's a hell of a lot better than what SIU has put up, especially the last decade.


Lennon is also likely to be fired after this year if he can't figure something out.

JMU was the reigning champ at the beginning of the decade we are talking about so that alone gives a bit of a bump.

clenz wrote:Don't know how this ended up locked but I unlocked it.

You might have accidentally hit a button while posting cuz it hasn't been locked very long if it was. My posts aren't too far apart and you and SH have em' sprinkled in as well.

clenz wrote:AAMAF, if you take Kills years, as well as the 2 years his recruits were upperclassmen, out at SIU has just 1 10 win season in their history.

Kill has a win% of 63.2
Lennon is next at 58...but...his first two years are a direct result of Kill...19 wins. Once Kills experience was gone Lennon is 27-29....48.2%

Other coaches in the SIU history


Sam Patterson - 2-2
William Lodge - 2-2
William McAndrew (who had their previous stadium named after him) 82-80-20
Glenn Martin - 31-42-5
Will Walter - 3-14-1
William O'Brien - 6-20
Albert Kaawl - 20-15-2
Carmen Piccone - 28-20
Don Shroyer - 4-16
Ellis Rainsberger - 4-5-1
Dick Towers - 30-37-2
Doug Weaver - 3-18-1
Rey Dempsey - 54-37
Ray Dorr - 17-27
Rick Rhoades - 4-7
Shawn Watson - 11-22
Jan Quarless - 14-30
Jerry Kill - 55-32
Dale Lennon - 48-34

Taking Kill out (plus his 2 upper classmen years out and his first two years to get his guys in) SIU is 361-471-32 in their history...

That means SIU has a 44.5% win % with non-Jerry Kill kids.


I can look at JMU, but I'd have to imagine it's a hell of a lot better than what SIU has put up, especially the last decade.


Lennon is also likely to be fired after this year if he can't figure something out.

I heard Towers was up for any situation thrown his way.

kalm wrote:

clenz wrote:AAMAF, if you take Kills years, as well as the 2 years his recruits were upperclassmen, out at SIU has just 1 10 win season in their history.

Kill has a win% of 63.2
Lennon is next at 58...but...his first two years are a direct result of Kill...19 wins. Once Kills experience was gone Lennon is 27-29....48.2%

Other coaches in the SIU history


Sam Patterson - 2-2
William Lodge - 2-2
William McAndrew (who had their previous stadium named after him) 82-80-20
Glenn Martin - 31-42-5
Will Walter - 3-14-1
William O'Brien - 6-20
Albert Kaawl - 20-15-2
Carmen Piccone - 28-20
Don Shroyer - 4-16
Ellis Rainsberger - 4-5-1
Dick Towers - 30-37-2
Doug Weaver - 3-18-1
Rey Dempsey - 54-37
Ray Dorr - 17-27
Rick Rhoades - 4-7
Shawn Watson - 11-22
Jan Quarless - 14-30
Jerry Kill - 55-32
Dale Lennon - 48-34

Taking Kill out (plus his 2 upper classmen years out and his first two years to get his guys in) SIU is 361-471-32 in their history...

That means SIU has a 44.5% win % with non-Jerry Kill kids.


I can look at JMU, but I'd have to imagine it's a hell of a lot better than what SIU has put up, especially the last decade.


Lennon is also likely to be fired after this year if he can't figure something out.

I heard Towers was up for any situation thrown his way.

Dude straightened pussies out constantly.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

kalm wrote:
I heard Towers was up for any situation thrown his way.

Dude straightened pussies out constantly.

Straight up pickle dick, NOT a banana dick!

bandl wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Dude straightened pussies out constantly.

Straight up pickle dick, NOT a banana dick!

This.

SuperHornet wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
So, Liberty replaces a playoff team (JMU) with a non playoff team (SIU) and that is a "SERIOUS" upgrade?
You're an idiot...

That was an anomaly, dummy. SIU has been better than JMU for at least a decade, and will reassert that VERY soon. SIU is a MUCH better game than JMU....

SuperHormone.

Stick to girl sports sweetheart. SIU is the football equivalent of a passenger on a plane being flown by Andreas Lubitz right now.

Dumb cvnt isn't a shadow of the troll JSO is...