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Conference play begins for CCU and Presby

Coastal Carolina @ Presbyterian
Liberty @ Appalachian State
Charleston Southern @ Vanderbilt
Monmouth vs Columbia

Gardner-Webb has a bye week.

Coastal vs Presby is going to be a win. Unless we absolutely screw the pooch, I don't see us losing. We have to improve our rushing. We can't continue to let the QB be a work horse. Between him and Henderson, the rushing yards for other players is negligible. Liberty and CSU are taking it on the chin against Sun Belt and SEC opponents.

I think Liberty will lose but App couldn't give it to the chin of any decent FCS team.

Coastal Carolina @ Presbyterian
Liberty @ Appalachian State
Charleston Southern @ Vanderbilt
Monmouth vs Columbia


I'd like to pick PC over CC, but just can't go that far out on a limb. But, good luck to the Blue Hose.

Appy State is hurting this season, Liberty has a real shot there.

Ibanez wrote:Conference play begins for CCU and Presby

Coastal Carolina @ Presbyterian
Liberty @ Appalachian State
Charleston Southern @ Vanderbilt
Monmouth vs Columbia

Gardner-Webb has a bye week.

Coastal vs Presby is going to be a win. Unless we absolutely screw the pooch, I don't see us losing. We have to improve our rushing. We can't continue to let the QB be a work horse. Between him and Henderson, the rushing yards for other players is negligible. Liberty and CSU are taking it on the chin against Sun Belt and SEC opponents.

App will likely beat Liberty, so I'll go App on that one.
I'll take Monmouth over Columbia. Still don't know much about them, but they are doing ok.

I like Coastal over PC, although I will say PC is playing pretty well with 2 SoCon wins under the belt now. CCU wins it...but, don't be shocked if PC makes this one a tough out for CCU.

Vandy should blow CSU out, SEC team and all. But Vandy has been pretty bad all year, and CSU has played pretty good. If the Bucs can keep it within 24 points and respectable, I'll be thrilled. Wont be a Michigan vs App State 2007 I don't think, but who knows.

Gardner Webb vs Bye Week. Bye Week has had a rough season. It got clobbered last week by CSU. Heard the Bucs were running around downtown eating great food, on dates with some gorgeous Charleston gals, and making it by with lots of rest, relaxation, and no injuries or suspensions. So, GWU probably wins over Bye Week as well. (The SC Gamecocks, however, will have a much harder time with Bye Week this week after their past 2 games!)

Coastal Carolina @ Presbyterian
While Presby is improved, I think the Furman scare will have Moglia and crew playing to prove something. I
see the Chants with a 2-3 touchdown win.

Liberty @ Appalachian State
Don't know much about App this year, but just think they will take Liberty.

Charleston Southern @ Vanderbilt
Vandy in an easy win, but will be interested to see how the Buc's handle it.

Monmouth vs Columbia
Not familiar with Columbia, but Monmouth is playing well, so going to go with them.

I gotta be myopic here....

CCU
Liberty
Chuck South
Monmouth

I'd be a little surprised if App beats Liberty, to be honest. The Mountaineers just got thumped at home by South Alabama.

Liberty played very well last week. A repeat takes App State. I think most here are over rating Vandy just because they are an SEC team. They are a young inexperienced team that is vulnerable. Not Saying Chas South should win but a 24_30 point beating would be disappointing. They should look to hang around for three quarters and who knows?

Coastal
Liberty BSouth dominance over the SoCon Continues
Vanderbilt
Monmouth

SuperHornet wrote:I gotta be myopic here....

CCU
Liberty
Chuck South
Monmouth

Are you serious?

Coastal Carolina 42 @ Presbyterian 19
Liberty 22 @ Appalachian State 20
Charleston Southern 17 @ Vanderbilt 33
Monmouth 34 vs Columbia 20

Given that I said that I was being myopic, Mark, what's the problem? Others here are taking up Liberty's cause against the squad that took out Michigan. CCU over Presby isn't a stretch by any means. Vandy is for all intents and purposes a MAC school in SEC clothing. And Columbia isn't going to have the wherewithal to beat Monmouth.

The only true stretch there is Liberty, and others are supporting it. What's the prob?

SuperHornet wrote:Given that I said that I was being myopic, Mark, what's the problem? Others here are taking up Liberty's cause against the squad that took out Michigan. CCU over Presby isn't a stretch by any means. Vandy is for all intents and purposes a MAC school in SEC clothing. And Columbia isn't going to have the wherewithal to beat Monmouth.

The only true stretch there is Liberty, and others are supporting it. What's the prob?

Uh no. The stretch is that CSU will beat Vanderbilt. Liberty MIGHT pull one over on AppState, but to say that Vanderbilt will lose to CSU is comical. The worst team in the SEC is better than any team in the FCS Top 10. Against UGA, Vandy put out over 300 yds of offense. UGA has a good defense. Think of what that offense will do against CSU? I would say 500 or more, 50% of those yds being rushing.

Ibanez wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Given that I said that I was being myopic, Mark, what's the problem? Others here are taking up Liberty's cause against the squad that took out Michigan. CCU over Presby isn't a stretch by any means. Vandy is for all intents and purposes a MAC school in SEC clothing. And Columbia isn't going to have the wherewithal to beat Monmouth.

The only true stretch there is Liberty, and others are supporting it. What's the prob?

Uh no. The stretch is that CSU will beat Vanderbilt. Liberty MIGHT pull one over on AppState, but to say that Vanderbilt will lose to CSU is comical. The worst team in the SEC is better than any team in the FCS Top 10. Against UGA, Vandy put out over 300 yds of offense. UGA has a good defense. Think of what that offense will do against CSU? I would say 500 or more, 50% of those yds being rushing.

Yes, I agree. Even as a sometimes delusional CSU homer...saying CSU over Vandy is absolutely a stretch. Picking any FCS over any FBS is always a gamble, even North Dakota State (who would maybe beat Vandy...but who knows). But as good as CSU is playing lately...Vandy is still an SEC school, even if they play like a MAC school.

Im guessing Vandy will win by, say, 40-something to 10. Could be worse. Could be much closer. CSU could pull a shocker...and it would indeed be a shocking win. But 99% chance Vandy wins this one, and about an 80% chance the game isn't any closer than 35 points.

But, when CSU played Kentucky, they gave UK fits for 3 quarters and played relatively close considering the SEC vs Big South. And I think it was maybe 2009, but CSU played a MAC school in Miami-Ohio, and was winning for the majority of the game. Miami-OH needed a late 4th quarter blocked punt to take the lead and pull out a close win. So...who knows.

Cocomo wrote:Coastal Carolina @ Presbyterian
Liberty @ Appalachian State
Charleston Southern @ Vanderbilt
Monmouth vs Columbia

As a caveat though, I do think Presbyterian will cover the 24 point spread at home and Charleston Southern will easily cover the 25 point spread on the road. As far as CSU is concerned, I think their passing game will get a couple against Vandy's porous secondary, which will open space on the ground for a score. Too much from Vandy's RB Webb though who will rush for over 150 yds and pull away in the 4th quarter... Vanderbilt 30 CSU 20

Well, CSU has some dangerous skill guys. QB Austin Brown was a 2 year starter at UAB before transferring. RB Christian Reyes was an Oregon State recruit, who somehow ended up cross country at CSU, and hes about to break the school rushing record. WR Perrera was All Big South 2 years ago, and is finally back from injury, and WR Colton Korn is a sophomore who was an FBS recruit at powerhouse Byrnes, but, his brother Willy is the CSU WR's coach and they reunited at CSU. And they have a veteran line, and a 6'8 TE who is causing fits for opponents.

So CSU very well could cause Vandy some problems on offense. On D? CSU has a solid front 7 for an FCS squad. But Vandy's OL is huge, and that's usually the big difference in FBS vs FCS. FBS offensive lines are just on another level than most FCS teams, and that's usually what breaks it.

CSU may make it interesting with some points. But Vandy will pound the ball and pull away slowly but surely like a demon cobra smothering its prey!

Vanderbilt is all kinds of screwed-up but beating them will be tough for Chuck South -- Same for Liberty at the Hillbillys. They can't run like the Convicts of GaSo or throw like South Alabama. The Appalachian defense is "surprisingly resilient" They've had a lot of practice this year with the 3 TOs/game by the offense and missed 2 FGs/game - one of which likely to be blocked.

The weather could get nasty -- rain, fog, 20mph NW winds, mid-60s falling into the 50s. It's Homecoming in Boone but the big fun is at the Harrisburg motor speedway. They encourage drinking and are big on the Jesus-thing, too.

Liberty does have an opportunity. If the crowd at the Rock is less than 25k, miserable and half-gone by the 3rd, it could get gloomy for bad Appalachian football.

Good Appalachian football will stop dropping the ball, and win 38-20.

Ibanez wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Given that I said that I was being myopic, Mark, what's the problem? Others here are taking up Liberty's cause against the squad that took out Michigan. CCU over Presby isn't a stretch by any means. Vandy is for all intents and purposes a MAC school in SEC clothing. And Columbia isn't going to have the wherewithal to beat Monmouth.

The only true stretch there is Liberty, and others are supporting it. What's the prob?

Uh no. The stretch is that CSU will beat Vanderbilt. Liberty MIGHT pull one over on AppState, but to say that Vanderbilt will lose to CSU is comical. [flash=]The worst team in the SEC is better than any team in the FCS Top 10. [/flash]Against UGA, Vandy put out over 300 yds of offense. UGA has a good defense. Think of what that offense will do against CSU? I would say 500 or more, 50% of those yds being rushing.

Not this year. Vandy got slugged by TEMPLE who got slugged by Navy!! This is a bad Vandy team. Taking stats from a loss doesn't translate. Georgia didn't give a damn about the Vandy game and if they wanted they could have laid half a hundred on them. Their only win is a 3 pointer against the worst team in FBS UMASS.

Any team in the top 10 of FCS beats Vandy IMO.

vutomcat wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Uh no. The stretch is that CSU will beat Vanderbilt. Liberty MIGHT pull one over on AppState, but to say that Vanderbilt will lose to CSU is comical. [flash=]The worst team in the SEC is better than any team in the FCS Top 10. [/flash]Against UGA, Vandy put out over 300 yds of offense. UGA has a good defense. Think of what that offense will do against CSU? I would say 500 or more, 50% of those yds being rushing.

Not this year. Vandy got slugged by TEMPLE who got slugged by Navy!! This is a bad Vandy team. Taking stats from a loss doesn't translate. Georgia didn't give a damn about the Vandy game and if they wanted they could have laid half a hundred on them. Their only win is a 3 pointer against the worst team in FBS UMASS.

Any team in the top 10 of FCS beats Vandy IMO.

I feel very confident N. Dakota State would. I'm not that familiar with most other FCS top 10s other than Coastal. And beating Vandy would be a task for Coastal, but, possible. Coastal is a tad bit more talented than CSU though, so for CSU it'll be a huge task.

Wow, look at Liberty beating App State! Coastal and PC put on quite a nice ball game. CCU is the better team, but man PC is much improved and they are gonna be a difficult team to beat. Monmouth is rolling.

CSU vs Vandy kicks off in 5 minutes. Liberty set the tone upsetting an FBS. Could CSU follow suit? Doubt it. But lets find out.........

Another strong day for the league thus far. It is looking like easy wins in this league are becoming tougher to identify.

And I don't care how down App State is these days, beating them was especially sweet for us.

Sly Fox wrote:Another strong day for the league thus far. It is looking like easy wins in this league are becoming tougher to identify.

And I don't care how down App State is these days, beating them was especially sweet for us.

Yep. Great win by Liberty!!!

The Big South has quietly become the best FCS league in the Southeast, over the SoCon and MEAC.

SO CLOSE to being able to run smack on you guys. Ugh!

Good run, Chuck South!

Ibanez wrote:...to say that Vanderbilt will lose to CSU is comical. The worst team in the SEC is better than any team in the FCS Top 10. Against UGA, Vandy put out over 300 yds of offense. UGA has a good defense. Think of what that offense will do against CSU? I would say 500 or more, 50% of those yds being rushing.

SuperHornet wrote:SO CLOSE to being able to run smack on you guys. Ugh!

Good run, Chuck South!

Yeah, the difference came down to such a tiny margin. CSU misaligned on an extra point, and Vandy hit 'em for a 2 point conversion, in a 1 point win.

The BIG one was this, and it was absurd: CSU hit a long pass that got into the red zone. The referee was running down the sideline, and bumped into a CSU coach who was barely in the box, but in it. And they threw a sideline flag, 15 yards, which pulled CSU back, and they settled for a FG.

That was basically it. In the last few minutes, Vandy started pounding the ball on the ground in their heavy set. The 85 scholarships showed. CSU's D line was gassed, and they ran the game clock out.

Helluva game by CSU. But...I'm not delusional. Vanderbilt is a bad FBS team right now. They're almost all freshmen, learning a new system, without any senior leadership. They're probably in the bottom 10% of FBS teams, so really, this was probably on par to CSU almost upsetting Coastal or something, since Vandy is probably not as good as the FCS top 10.

Aren't they supposed to issue a bench warning before they throw a flag for that?