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Good luck to him. It's been a hell of a three year ride! I think the o-line graduating 4 of 5 starters played greatly into this decision. I also think we'll be good with Victor stepping in for T-West.

andy7171 wrote:Good luck to him. It's been a hell of a three year ride! I think the o-line graduating 4 of 5 starters played greatly into this decision. I also think we'll be good with Victor stepping in for T-West.

Bullshit! You are screwed!!!

andy7171 wrote:Good luck to him. It's been a hell of a three year ride! I think the o-line graduating 4 of 5 starters played greatly into this decision. I also think we'll be good with Victor stepping in for T-West.

losing 4 of 5 ol doesn't bode well for any run game....with or without west...much less so without him

93henfan wrote:

andy7171 wrote:Good luck to him. It's been a hell of a three year ride! I think the o-line graduating 4 of 5 starters played greatly into this decision. I also think we'll be good with Victor stepping in for T-West.

Bullshit! You are screwed!!!

Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes vs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

Ironically, someone pointed out on another thread that NDSU had 14 senior starters in the NC game.

BDKJMU wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Bullshit! You are screwed!!!

Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes bs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

West played for Townsend.

AZGrizFan wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes bs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

West played for Townsend.

Pete?

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

West played for Townsend.

Pete?

His brother. Townsend State.

BDKJMU wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Bullshit! You are screwed!!!

Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes vs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

Ironically, someone pointed out on another thread that NDSU had 14 senior starters in the NC game.

Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

Gil Dobie wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes vs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

Ironically, someone pointed out on another thread that NDSU had 14 senior starters in the NC game.

Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

You sound like App State posters in January 2008.

Gil Dobie wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes vs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

Ironically, someone pointed out on another thread that NDSU had 14 senior starters in the NC game.

Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

Well if we're counting "experienced" players, then the Griz aren't losing anybody.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

Well if we're counting "experienced" players, then the Griz aren't losing anybody.

I said solid experienced players, a lot of players got to start this season with all the injuries. I'm not counting players that got playing time mopping up in the 4th quarter.

Gil Dobie wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Well, someone did point on the JMU board that their game notes vs EIU showed 13 senior starters. Add on West makes 14 lost, I believe 8 on offense and 6 on defense.

Ironically, someone pointed out on another thread that NDSU had 14 senior starters in the NC game.

Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

Vaadeland is returning at TE (medical hardship). Two O-lineman graduate (Turner and Gimmestad).

93henfan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

You sound like App State posters in January 2008.

True story...the difference for us was that we had Armanti Edwards returning. That justifies a small amount of the hubris from those days.

Gil Dobie wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Well if we're counting "experienced" players, then the Griz aren't losing anybody.

I said solid experienced players, a lot of players got to start this season with all the injuries. I'm not counting players that got playing time mopping up in the 4th quarter.

OK. Griz return their top 2 WR's, and 7 of their top 9 WR's (from a production standpoint). We return every QB on the roster. Every running back. Our stud fullback....the top 6 rushers all return. Our top 4 point scorers all return...O-line wise we lose a guy that's probably going to get drafted in April, but return four guys who either started or got "quality" minutes (not just mop-up) plus 3 more who saw significant playing time. Offensively I think we'll be fine. Defensively we lose all three LB's, our starting DT and our best CB...but we return 3 guys who got massive playing time at DT, 3 CB's who saw lots of playing time and 3 FR(RS) who are absolute studs, and a fast (albeit relatively young and inexperienced from a playing-time standpoint) set of 6-7 LB's who will be able to rotate in and out fairly successfully.

Personally I think we lucked out and picked a REALLY good year to catch both NDSU and Wyoming....

93henfan wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Bison have around 10 solid experienced players coming back on offense, QB replacement will be key, TE and 1 O-line piece to fill. 11 solid experienced players coming back on defense. D-Line spot to fill. Kicker and punter return.

You sound like App State posters in January 2008.

So the App State posters were not sure if their team would be good? A lot depends on the QB position and with the new Coach. You could have 21 out of 22 starters returning, but if the QB is not a game manager and the Coach doesn't lead, none of that matters.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

93henfan wrote:
You sound like App State posters in January 2008.

True story...the difference for us was that we had Armanti Edwards returning. That justifies a small amount of the hubris from those days.

So stating facts is hubris?

Gil Dobie wrote:

93henfan wrote:
You sound like App State posters in January 2008.

So the App State posters were not sure if their team would be good? A lot depends on the QB position and with the new Coach. You could have 21 out of 22 starters returning, but if the QB is not a game manager and the Coach doesn't lead, none of that matters.

Your not kidding...just ask our 2004 squad and their epic second half collapse in the playoffs. You do truly miss those great QB's until their gone. You can always get another woman, but a great QB...there are just no guarantees there. I miss you Andy Hall.

Gil Dobie wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
True story...the difference for us was that we had Armanti Edwards returning. That justifies a small amount of the hubris from those days.

So stating facts is hubris?

Get over yourself, Gil.



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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Adrian Peterson can pop the champagne now…

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Unless West was going to rush for 4,000+ yards, AP really didn't have anything to worry about.

Baldy wrote:

Mvemjsunpx wrote:Adrian Peterson can pop the champagne now…

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Unless West was going to rush for 4,000+ yards, AP really didn't have anything to worry about.

He's got 4,849 now. Did I miss something?

andy7171 wrote:

Baldy wrote: Unless West was going to rush for 4,000+ yards, AP really didn't have anything to worry about.

He's got 4,849 now. Did I miss something?

Nope. Just Baldlie being Baldlie.

andy7171 wrote:

Baldy wrote: Unless West was going to rush for 4,000+ yards, AP really didn't have anything to worry about.

He's got 4,849 now. Did I miss something?

AP rushed for over 9,000 yards. 4000+ yards more than West.

Grizalltheway wrote:

andy7171 wrote: He's got 4,849 now. Did I miss something?

Nope. Just Baldy being correct, again.

Accuracy, Jizzlover.

Baldy wrote:

andy7171 wrote: He's got 4,849 now. Did I miss something?

AP rushed for over 9,000 yards. 4000+ yards more than West.

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