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MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:06 pm
by CatBlitz22
MSU's Brad Daly wins the Buck. Back-to-back for MSU.
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Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:13 pm
by Grizalltheway
For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do fuckin' own this award.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:30 pm
by AZGrizFan
Daly became the sixth Buchanan Award winner from the Big Sky in the last 11 seasons.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:58 pm
by TribeFanInNC
Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do ****' own this award.

One outstanding player in a field of mediocrity is easier to pick out than finding the best in a crowd of excellent players.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:03 pm
by SACCAT
TribeFanInNC wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do ****' own this award.

One outstanding player in a field of mediocrity is easier to pick out than finding the best in a crowd of excellent players.

This statement is very True. It isn't like he had to go up against the best Freshman in the Country, or one of the best QB's in the country.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:04 pm
by CAA Flagship
TribeFanInNC wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do ****' own this award.

One outstanding player in a field of mediocrity is easier to pick out than finding the best in a crowd of excellent players.

Here we go!!!

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:07 pm
by TribeFanInNC
CAA Flagship wrote:TribeFanInNC wrote:
One outstanding player in a field of mediocrity is easier to pick out than finding the best in a crowd of excellent players.

Here we go!!!

Yeah, slow day at the office.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:20 pm
by Gil Dobie
Congrats!
Good to see the Big Sky has a defensive player

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:54 pm
by BDKJMU
Congrats to the guy from MT State. ALso congrats to JMU's Stephen Roberstson.
The voting was:
Daly: 485 points, 64 1st place votes
Robertson: 421 points, 43 1st place votes.
I figured it would come down to Robertson and Daly, and it. 3rd place was a distant 3rd.
Robertson was 3rd in the nation in tackles. His had 17 tackles for loss was 8th in the nation for LBs, but the 7 ahead of him were all NEC, Pioneer, and HBCU. Unfortunately for him, neither of the 2 nationally televised games on NBCSports were his monster games. VS UR had 8 tackles, .5 for loss, and vs TU had 11 tackles, 1 for a loss (JMU did hold West to 100 yds on 22 carries).
Daly led the nation in sacks with 14, but 4 were against a Div II school. 10 sacks in 11 Div I games, which is a typical season, normally wouldn't be good enough to win it. Had 20.5 tackles for loss, 3rd in the nation in TFL per game, 2nd for de ends (De end from G Webb had 19 in 11 games).
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Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:01 pm
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do fuckin' own this award.

When you have one good defensive player on a team, he kinda stands out.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do fuckin' own this award.

When you have one good defensive player on a team, he kinda stands out.

Funny....I was going to make the same argument, then I realized that if it were TRUE, it'd be really easy to focus on and stop that one guy. The only alternative argument is that the guys around him must be decent enough that he can't get double and triple teamed every play.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:59 pm
by EWURanger
Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do ****' own this award.

Ssshhhhh...don't tell AlphaBison.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:00 pm
by EWURanger
AZGrizFan wrote:Daly became the sixth Buchanan Award winner from the Big Sky in the last 11 seasons.
9 of the past 11 if you count Cal Poly.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:01 pm
by Grizo406
Well deserved!
Congrats to Daly, and the Bobcat football program!

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:23 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
89Hen wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:For a conference that supposedly doesn't play defense, we sure do fuckin' own this award.

When you have one good defensive player on a team, he kinda stands out.

Way to repeat the joke an hour later there, quick-draw-McGraw.

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:24 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
EWURanger wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
9 of the past 11 if you count Cal Poly.

Which I sure as hell do. Western FCS owns the Buchanon award. Congrats to Daly and MSU!

Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:40 pm
by LDopaPDX
How did the CB from North Dakota State not win? That dude is the best defensive player in the FCS, IMO. He's been the best athlete on the field in the couple of Bison games I watched this year. He can do it all, fly around, defeat block, make tackles, and he's great in coverage. He'd have been my pick, although admittedly I haven't seen him play that much.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:14 am
by kalm
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:45 am
by BDKJMU
BDKJMU wrote:Congrats to the guy from MT State. ALso congrats to JMU's Stephen Roberstson.
The voting was:
Daly: 485 points, 64 1st place votes
Robertson: 421 points, 43 1st place votes.
I figured it would come down to Robertson and Daly, and it. 3rd place was a distant 3rd.
Robertson was 3rd in the nation in tackles. His had 17 tackles for loss was 8th in the nation for LBs, but the 7 ahead of him were all NEC, Pioneer, and HBCU.
Unfortunately for him, neither of the 2 nationally televised games on NBCSports were his monster games. VS UR had 8 tackles, .5 for loss, and vs TU had 11 tackles, 1 for a loss (JMU did hold West to 100 yds on 22 carries).
Daly led the nation in sacks with 14, but 4 were against a Div II school. 10 sacks in 11 Div I games, which is a typical season, normally wouldn't be good enough to win it. Had 20.5 tackles for loss, 3rd in the nation in TFL per game, 2nd for de ends (De end from G Webb had 19 in 11 games).
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Forgot that the UNH game was also nationally televised, too. Stephon had 8 tackles in that one, but not much else. Stephon won conference defensive player of the week an astounding 4 times, yet in none of those 4 monster games (and the other couple of monster games he had) were any of the 3 nationally televised games. 2 of those 3 games (UNH and TU) were losses, and 2 of the 3 (UR and UNH) JMU was thrown all over because the secondary was HORRIBLE. Not Stephon's fault- JMU was #1 in the CAA against the rush and in sacks, dead last against the pass.
Course as a biased JMU fan I think Stephon should have won it. Not surprised he didn't.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:50 am
by AZGrizFan
BDKJMU wrote:BDKJMU wrote:Congrats to the guy from MT State. ALso congrats to JMU's Stephen Roberstson.
The voting was:
Daly: 485 points, 64 1st place votes
Robertson: 421 points, 43 1st place votes.
I figured it would come down to Robertson and Daly, and it. 3rd place was a distant 3rd.
Robertson was 3rd in the nation in tackles. His had 17 tackles for loss was 8th in the nation for LBs, but the 7 ahead of him were all NEC, Pioneer, and HBCU.
Unfortunately for him, neither of the 2 nationally televised games on NBCSports were his monster games. VS UR had 8 tackles, .5 for loss, and vs TU had 11 tackles, 1 for a loss (JMU did hold West to 100 yds on 22 carries).
Daly led the nation in sacks with 14, but 4 were against a Div II school. 10 sacks in 11 Div I games, which is a typical season, normally wouldn't be good enough to win it. Had 20.5 tackles for loss, 3rd in the nation in TFL per game, 2nd for de ends (De end from G Webb had 19 in 11 games).
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Forgot that the UNH game was also nationally televised, too. Stephon had 8 tackles in that one, but not much else. Stephon won conference defensive player of the week an astounding 4 times, yet in none of those 4 monster games (and the other couple of monster games he had) were any of the 3 nationally televised games. 2 of those 3 games (UNH and TU) were losses, and 2 of the 3 (UR and UNH) JMU was thrown all over because the secondary was HORRIBLE. Not Stephon's fault- JMU was #1 in the CAA against the rush and in sacks, dead last against the pass.
Course as a biased JMU fan I think Stephon should have won it. Not surprised he didn't.
You assume that those who vote actually WATCH the games....I would bet 90% of the voters just look at the stats for the year.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:15 am
by BDKJMU
AZGrizFan wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
Forgot that the UNH game was also nationally televised, too. Stephon had 8 tackles in that one, but not much else. Stephon won conference defensive player of the week an astounding 4 times, yet in none of those 4 monster games (and the other couple of monster games he had) were any of the 3 nationally televised games. 2 of those 3 games (UNH and TU) were losses, and 2 of the 3 (UR and UNH) JMU was thrown all over because the secondary was HORRIBLE. Not Stephon's fault- JMU was #1 in the CAA against the rush and in sacks, dead last against the pass.
Course as a biased JMU fan I think Stephon should have won it. Not surprised he didn't.
You assume that those who vote actually WATCH the games....I would bet 90% of the voters just look at the stats for the year.
Probably true. I think if you're a voter for the Payton and the Buchanan you should try to at least watch as many games as you can that have the top nominees for the awards.
Re: MSU back-to-back Buck winner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:19 am
by SACCAT
Not only back-to-back MSU winners, but also both from the great state of MONTANA...