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      • Sam Houston St. 31-38 Southeastern Louisiana

JohnStOnge wrote:I think the quarterback thing is even for SE LA at best. Bennett has more physical ability but Bell is very savvy and experienced. Also there's an "intangible." More than half of Sam Houston State's players including more than half of starters have been through 9 playoff games now. They now expect to win those games and that type of game is old hat to them.

I have a bad feeling about this one for Southeastern Louisiana. I know Lions fans are confident but I think they're going to have their hands really full. I know there was a comment about the second half when I said that the two teams played pretty evenly physically the last time and Sam Houston made more mistakes. I looked at the play by play to confirm my belief that Sam Houston State moved the ball pretty well in the second half until Bell got hurt and it did nothing to change my belief. Basically one long drive that should've been a TD for Sam Houston State wasn't because a wide open receiver dropped an easy TD pass. And the next one was stopped by Bell getting knocked out of the game on a long run.

I don't think this is going to be easy at all for Southeastern and I won't be surprised at all if they get knocked off. In fact I think if I had to bet straight up I'd bet on Sam Houston State. I wouldn't be real confident about that because Southeastern IS very good and I think has been a better team week in and week out. But I do believe having been there and having experienced success being there helps and I did not see Southeastern as dominating the last game. I thought Sam Houston State matched up pretty well with the Lions until Bell got hurt.

But what will be will be. Only thing that matters is what actually happens.

You do realize it was already 34-21 when Bell got hurt? I do agree the only thing that matters is what actually happens.

slulionsfan wrote:I'd take issue with your o-line and d-line selections... We have a big advantage on both... We're bigger, deeper and more physical. We have the WR advantage too, we just spread it around to bunch of guys.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

slulionsfan wrote:I'd take issue with your o-line and d-line selections... We have a big advantage on both... We're bigger, deeper and more physical. We have the WR advantage too, we just spread it around to bunch of guys.

WRs/TEs were real close—SELU has more depth, but Torrance Williams is the best WR for either team. Richard Sincere's rushing #s were the tiebreaker.

For O-Line: the ypc and sack % numbers were very close between the two; SHSU a little better on running & SELU a little better on pass protection (though both were real good there). Those are the stats I look at to assess O-Line.

For D-Line: the team stats favored SHSU for run D and SELU for pass rush, making that a wash. SHSU's D-Linemen had better individual stats, though. Isiah Corbett is technically a linebacker (3-4 pass rusher type), & placing him there is the main reason SELU wins LBs noticeably while the Bearkats win D-Line narrowly.

slulionsfan wrote:Can't go by individual stats because we play more players than they do, especially defensive stats

... as far as offensive numbers go, they played two sub D-I's and a SWAC ... but look at the conference only numbers to make a better assessment.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

slulionsfan wrote:Can't go by individual stats because we play more players than they do, especially defensive stats

Yes I can because I look down the line & not just the top couple people.

... as far as offensive numbers go, they played two sub D-I's and a SWAC ... but look at the conference only numbers to make a better assessment.

You both played the same conference schedule. You both played a ranked FBS. You both played Incarnate Word. You played SEMO while SHSU played Texas Southern (basically equivalent). You each played 2 playoff teams out of conference, and EWU was the best of those 4. The only difference is that SHSU has Houston Baptist while SELU doesn't have a 13th. game. Any schedule-strength difference is minute.

JohnStOnge wrote:

You do realize it was already 34-21 when Bell got hurt? I do agree the only thing that matters is what actually happens.

What I said is that they moved the ball well until Bell got hurt. When I look at the whole game it looked pretty even physically but Sam Houston State made more mistakes.

This is the thing with Bell: Sam Houston State had 400 yards of offense in the game. They had 200 yards rushing and Bell had 112 of them. They had 212 of their 400 total yards at halftime and at the point that Bell got hurt with a little over 10 minutes to go in the game they had 123 yards of offense in the second half. There was no "drop off" in their offensive production in terms of ability to move the ball between first half and second half when Bell was in there. They did make mistakes. The guy dropped a wide open TD pass. A few plays later Bell made a mistake in throwing that ball on that little swing pass as it was covered and there was no way that was going to work. And he made a mistake in throwing it where the guy in front of him could get it.

They also blew a coverage and gave up a 62 yard TD pass early in the second half. Southeastern Louisiana blew a coverage too that would've been a TD for Sam Houston but the guy dropped the ball so they didn't pay for it.

That sort of thing. In any game both teams make mistakes and it it's an evenly matched games who makes more, I think, determines who wins a lot of the time. And I think Sam Houston State made more. The final total yards were 400 yards for Sam Houston State and 413 for Southeastern Louisiana even though Sam Houston State played a little more than the last 10 minutes without a starting quarterback who was obviously very important to themin that game. It was not a physical mismatch by any means. Losing by 13 isn't all that remarkable when you're -3 in the turnover stat as Sam Houston State was in that game. And that doesn't count dropping a wide open TD pass a couple of plays prior to one of the turnovers.

craneac27 wrote:i don't think SLU loses this game

i might make the drive from Baton Rouge over to Hammond (35-40 mile drive for those not from around here).

slulionsfan, will you be there?

slulionsfan wrote:

craneac27 wrote:i don't think SLU loses this game

i might make the drive from Baton Rouge over to Hammond (35-40 mile drive for those not from around here).

slulionsfan, will you be there?

Of course I will. Come on over! Dress Warm!

craneac27 wrote:

slulionsfan wrote:
Of course I will. Come on over! Dress Warm!

might have to venture on over to Bradys before. i actually got a ticket at 2am going down the wrong way on a 1 way, SOBER!! it was on West Thomas Street. the 1 time i was not drinking while i was underage. damn dick head cop. i told him it was my first time driving in hammond, which was true. its 1 of 2 one way streets in hammond for people not familiar with hammond

craneac27 wrote:i have been to ONE fcs playoff game = New Hampshire @ McNeese in 2009. it was a great atmosphere. i love the atmosphere. if you haven't been to one you'll be in for a treat. I'm trying to talk my dad into going. ill be at Covington High tomorrow night to see Parkway @ Covington. my cousins went to CHS and what not so i just wanted to see some semi-final playoff football. didn't realize Brandon Harris was the Parkway QB. that will be a treat

slulionsfan wrote:

mvemjsunpx wrote:You both played the same conference schedule. You both played a ranked FBS. You both played Incarnate Word. You played SEMO while SHSU played Texas Southern (basically equivalent). You each played 2 playoff teams out of conference, and EWU was the best of those 4. The only difference is that SHSU has Houston Baptist while SELU doesn't have a 13th. game. Any schedule-strength difference is minute.

It's not minute in the least bit ... SEMO and Texas Southern are nowhere close to equivalent and Houston Baptist is a first year program that didn't even play a full schedule. We played two non-conference playoff opponents (SDSU and Samford), they played one (EWU). And yes, we did play the same conference schedule ... that was my point, if you're using stats as your guide. We roll eight, nine, and sometimes as many as 10 D-linemen throughout a game on a regular basis, in a three-man front. And before we lost a couple to injury, we were playing 11 O-linemen on a consistent basis ... still playing nine to ten each week.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

slulionsfan wrote: It's not minute in the least bit ... SEMO and Texas Southern are nowhere close to equivalent and Houston Baptist is a first year program that didn't even play a full schedule. We played two non-conference playoff opponents (SDSU and Samford), they played one (EWU). And yes, we did play the same conference schedule ... that was my point, if you're using stats as your guide. We roll eight, nine, and sometimes as many as 10 D-linemen throughout a game on a regular basis, in a three-man front. And before we lost a couple to injury, we were playing 11 O-linemen on a consistent basis ... still playing nine to ten each week.

That's not the regular season.

Uhhhh… SHSU played Southern Utah last week.

slulionsfan wrote:

Mvemjsunpx wrote: Uhhhh… SHSU played Southern Utah last week.

That's not the regular season.