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Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:44 am
by kalm
They lose to the cats and SUU beats NAU?
It would be tough to justify 5 bids from the Big Fluffy, they would have the weakest resume with no marquee wins, and lost the head to head to NAU and MSU.
Hard to imagine a 9-3 Montana being denied for the likes of a 9-3 TSU but it could happen.
Discuss....
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:45 am
by chris
no
/thread
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:49 am
by bluehenbillk
Montana is a LOCK.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:50 am
by kalm
chris wrote:no
/thread
Would all 5 be in? If not, who gets bumped?
Thread \
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:54 am
by dbackjon
Interesting question. There is a good chance all 5 could get in in that scenario.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:03 am
by SACCAT
Cats won't beat the griz, so none of this matters.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:06 am
by DSUrocks07
bluehenbillk wrote:Montana is a LOCK.
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Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:07 am
by vutomcat
kalm wrote:They lose to the cats and SUU beats NAU?
It would be tough to justify 5 bids from the Big Fluffy, they would have the weakest resume with no marquee wins, and lost the head to head to NAU and MSU.
Hard to imagine a 9-3 Montana being denied for the likes of a 9-3 TSU but it could happen.
Discuss....
I agree that all 5 would have excellent resumes and be under strong consideration if MSU takes Montana and I assume you mean SUU will beat Nothern Az as well.
If that is the scenario all 5 will likely get in.
The more likely scenario in my opinion is that Montana beats MSU. MSU is out in that scenario with 5 losses and an inexplicable bad loss to Stephen F. Austin. If SUU loses, they are on the bubble too because their scheduling was weak. So it may be as few as 3 teams from the Big Fluffy. But either way, Montana is in.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:17 am
by grizzaholic
chris wrote:no
/thread
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:30 am
by uofmman1122
chris wrote:no
/thread
Pretty much this.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:36 am
by kalm
uofmman1122 wrote:chris wrote:no
/thread
Pretty much this.
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:37 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:Pretty much this.
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
Only if a lot of things happen. See my post on the playoff picture thread.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:44 am
by uofmman1122
kalm wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:Pretty much this.
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
If not 5, then either MSU or SUU gets left out.
Crazier things have happened.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:57 am
by kalm
uofmman1122 wrote:kalm wrote:
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
If not 5, then either MSU or SUU gets left out.
Crazier things have happened.
MSU would have wins against top 10-15 NAU and Montana plus the head to head.
SUU would have wins against FBS South Alabama, top 15-20 MSU and NAU, and would be riding a 4 game win streak with the same record as the Griz.
Montana's best win would be 5-6/6-6 Poly, Sac, or USD?
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:04 am
by uofmman1122
kalm wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:If not 5, then either MSU or SUU gets left out.
Crazier things have happened.
MSU would have wins against top 10-15 NAU and Montana plus the head to head.
SUU would have wins against FBS South Alabama, top 15-20 MSU and NAU, and would be riding a 4 game win streak with the same record as the Griz.
Montana's best win would be 5-6/6-6 Poly, Sac, or USD?
SUU lost to UC Davis.
MSU lost to SFA.
Montana would have no bad losses.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:09 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
DSUrocks07 wrote:bluehenbillk wrote:Montana is a LOCK.
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Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:16 am
by Grizalltheway
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:
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Somebody's gotta bring home the bacon to make up for you <15,000 slouches.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:19 am
by Brock Landers
Brock Landers wrote:People analyzing the records of the different Big Sky teams need to realize that that doesn't mean shit. You're being compared to the rest of the FCS field, and in that regard, we are a mortal lock because the field is so weak and thin at the top
1) AQ - MVFC (NDSU)
2) AQ - Big Sky (EWU)
3) AQ - Southland (SELU)
4) AQ - Southern (Chatty/Samford/Furman)
5) AQ - CAA (Maine)
6) AQ - MEAC (BCU/SCSU)
7) AQ - Big South (CCU/CSU)
8) AQ - NEC (Sacred Heart/Duquesne)
9) AQ - PL (Lehigh/Lafayette)
10) AQ - PFL (Butler/Marist)
11) AQ - OVC (EIU)
12) Towson (9-2)
13) McNeese State (9-2)
14) Northern Arizona (8-2)
15) Sam Houston State (8-3)
16) Fordham (10-1)
17) Montana (9-2)
18) YSU (8-3)
19) CCU (10-1)/CSU (10-2)
20) Southern Utah (8-3)
21) Chatty (8-3) / Samford (7-4)
22) Tennesse State (9-3)
23) ??
24) ??
25) ??
(that is not representing the seeds)
Possible final additions with 7-8 wins
SDSU, MSU, Delaware, W&M, JMU, UNH, Central Arkansas
Possible final mid-major additions with 8-10 wins
Liberty, Jacksonville State, MEAC 2nd place team,
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:46 am
by kalm
uofmman1122 wrote:kalm wrote:
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
If not 5, then either MSU or SUU gets left out.
Crazier things have happened.
Lehigh didn't have a bad loss last year either...just sayin'.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:48 am
by kalm
Brock Landers wrote:Brock Landers wrote:People analyzing the records of the different Big Sky teams need to realize that that doesn't mean shit. You're being compared to the rest of the FCS field, and in that regard, we are a mortal lock because the field is so weak and thin at the top
1) AQ - MVFC (NDSU)
2) AQ - Big Sky (EWU)
3) AQ - Southland (SELU)
4) AQ - Southern (Chatty/Samford/Furman)
5) AQ - CAA (Maine)
6) AQ - MEAC (BCU/SCSU)
7) AQ - Big South (CCU/CSU)
8) AQ - NEC (Sacred Heart/Duquesne)
9) AQ - PL (Lehigh/Lafayette)
10) AQ - PFL (Butler/Marist)
11) AQ - OVC (EIU)
12) Towson (9-2)
13) McNeese State (9-2)
14) Northern Arizona (8-2)
15) Sam Houston State (8-3)
16) Fordham (10-1)
17) Montana (9-2)
18) YSU (8-3)
19) CCU (10-1)/CSU (10-2)
20) Southern Utah (8-3)
21) Chatty (8-3) / Samford (7-4)
22) Tennesse State (9-3)
23) ??
24) ??
25) ??
(that is not representing the seeds)
Possible final additions with 7-8 wins
SDSU, MSU, Delaware, W&M, JMU, UNH, Central Arkansas
Possible final mid-major additions with 8-10 wins
Liberty, Jacksonville State, MEAC 2nd place team,
Compelling.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:14 pm
by uofmman1122
kalm wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:If not 5, then either MSU or SUU gets left out.
Crazier things have happened.
Lehigh didn't have a bad loss last year either...just sayin'.
Lehigh isn't Montana, either, either.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:32 pm
by EWURanger
SACCAT wrote:Cats won't beat the griz, so none of this matters.
Agreed.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:35 pm
by EWURanger
kalm wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:Pretty much this.
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
Nope. MSU will most likely get rocked this weekend and miss out on the playoffs.
EWU, UM, NAU, SUU.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:40 pm
by vutomcat
kalm wrote:Brock Landers wrote:
Compelling.
All of those teams you listed have 4 losses or 5 in the case of Central Ark. Most of them figure to lose this week, MSU to Montana, Delaware to Villanova, SDSU to YSU, UNH to Maine, JMU to Towson and Central Ark to SHSU. So, what you will have is a lot of teams with 5 losses that may need to be considered to fill out the bracket.
William and Mary figures to win and should go if they win against Richmond this week.
Add, Northern Iowa and Villanova who have 5 losses but figure to win this week to the list of potential 23rd or 24th teams to be selected. They both have stronger schedules than the other teams listed and will have finished strong with two good wins.
Re: Would Montana Be Out If...
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:44 pm
by Grizalltheway
EWURanger wrote:kalm wrote:
So I'll ask you experts again...does the sky get 5 then?
Nope. MSU will most likely get rocked this weekend and miss out on the playoffs.
EWU, UM, NAU, SUU.
This. See you guys in Cheney.
