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Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:32 pm
by bucs90
Final 2 weeks. So far, Charleston Southern has 0 BSC losses. CCU has 1 (CSU) and Liberty has 1 (CCU). CSU finishes out @ Gardner Webb and at home vs Liberty. Liberty still has CSU and CCU plays Brevard. Should CSU beat GWU and lose to Liberty, there will be a 3 way tie between CSU/CCU/LU with 1 loss each, and no one gets the head to head as they play each other. Should be a fun finish.

The SoCon I don't know as much about, which is why the thread was created for others to help. I know Chattanooga and Samford are in the lead, and Wofford is trying to fight back up.

Should CSU win out, and CCU finish 10-2, both should be top 20. Could the BSC get 2 teams, and if so, any chance the SoCon gets 2?? And would the two conferences face each other in the 1st round in any scenario? I want to go if CSU makes it, and a trip to Chattanooga or Samford would be a reasonable trip.

Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:12 pm
by SuperHornet
Liberty has to get the auto-bid to go, and I'm not sure that's even theoretically possible at this point; a tie gains them nothing, as they won't hold many of the tiebreakers and they don't have an at-large resume.

There's a fairly good chance both Chuck South and CCU get in, despite SUU protests to the contrary. Their overall resumes (despite CSU's D-II game) are too impressive. It looks like CSU locked up the AQ with their win over CCU, so Coastal likely gets an at-large. Neither get a seed, and probably both end up in play-in games.

With the usual characters out of the running in the SoCon, I have no freaking clue there, but conference rep alone should get them two bids, if not three. They probably won't get more than that, as the CAA is more likely to get big bid numbers. There may well be some teams from non-AQ conferences getting at-larges, too.

Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:10 pm
by bucs90
SuperHornet wrote:Liberty has to get the auto-bid to go, and I'm not sure that's even theoretically possible at this point; a tie gains them nothing, as they won't hold many of the tiebreakers and they don't have an at-large resume.

There's a fairly good chance both Chuck South and CCU get in, despite SUU protests to the contrary. Their overall resumes (despite CSU's D-II game) are too impressive. It looks like CSU locked up the AQ with their win over CCU, so Coastal likely gets an at-large. Neither get a seed, and probably both end up in play-in games.

With the usual characters out of the running in the SoCon, I have no freaking clue there, but conference rep alone should get them two bids, if not three. They probably won't get more than that, as the CAA is more likely to get big bid numbers. There may well be some teams from non-AQ conferences getting at-larges, too.
Yeah, I have to find the Big South tie breaker rules. If each have 1 loss, and CSU > CCU > LU > CSU cluster three way, not sure how the BSC does it.

CSU's D2 game hurts a bit. Especially since they have a new coach, and those first few games showed they were still kinda learning his system. They're rolling pretty good right now.

Just PLEASE GOD don't have a letdown at GWU this weekend. GWU can beat anyone when they come to play.

Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:18 am
by Ibanez
bucs90 wrote:Final 2 weeks. So far, Charleston Southern has 0 BSC losses. CCU has 1 (CSU) and Liberty has 1 (CCU). CSU finishes out @ Gardner Webb and at home vs Liberty. Liberty still has CSU and CCU plays Brevard. Should CSU beat GWU and lose to Liberty, there will be a 3 way tie between CSU/CCU/LU with 1 loss each, and no one gets the head to head as they play each other. Should be a fun finish.

The SoCon I don't know as much about, which is why the thread was created for others to help. I know Chattanooga and Samford are in the lead, and Wofford is trying to fight back up.

Should CSU win out, and CCU finish 10-2, both should be top 20. Could the BSC get 2 teams, and if so, any chance the SoCon gets 2?? And would the two conferences face each other in the 1st round in any scenario? I want to go if CSU makes it, and a trip to Chattanooga or Samford would be a reasonable trip.
We don't play Brevard. We have Presby this weekend and the USC the following.

Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:19 am
by Ibanez
SuperHornet wrote:Liberty has to get the auto-bid to go, and I'm not sure that's even theoretically possible at this point; a tie gains them nothing, as they won't hold many of the tiebreakers and they don't have an at-large resume.

There's a fairly good chance both Chuck South and CCU get in, despite SUU protests to the contrary. Their overall resumes (despite CSU's D-II game) are too impressive. It looks like CSU locked up the AQ with their win over CCU, so Coastal likely gets an at-large. Neither get a seed, and probably both end up in play-in games.

With the usual characters out of the running in the SoCon, I have no freaking clue there, but conference rep alone should get them two bids, if not three. They probably won't get more than that, as the CAA is more likely to get big bid numbers. There may well be some teams from non-AQ conferences getting at-larges, too.
That is the bullshit part.

Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:21 am
by Ibanez
If there is a tie for first place in the Big South Conference at the end of the regular season, the Big South will use a tie-breaking procedure. The tie-breakers for two-way ties are: 1. Head-to-head competition, 2. If a tie still exists, then the records of the tying teams against the next highest team shall be compared. 3. The process outlined in the above step shall continue through the last team if necessary.

If there are multiple ties for first place: Composite records between the tying teams shall be evaluated to determine if one team has won more games against the next highest team shall be compared. The process in step two shall continue through the last team, if necessary. If there is still a tie, a point system based on the complete schedule and wins using the latest available Sagarin rankings will determine the automatic bid for the Big South Conference into the FCS Playoffs.
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Re: Big South/SoCon final 2 weeks; Championship scenario

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:34 pm
by bucs90
Ibanez wrote:
bucs90 wrote:Final 2 weeks. So far, Charleston Southern has 0 BSC losses. CCU has 1 (CSU) and Liberty has 1 (CCU). CSU finishes out @ Gardner Webb and at home vs Liberty. Liberty still has CSU and CCU plays Brevard. Should CSU beat GWU and lose to Liberty, there will be a 3 way tie between CSU/CCU/LU with 1 loss each, and no one gets the head to head as they play each other. Should be a fun finish.

The SoCon I don't know as much about, which is why the thread was created for others to help. I know Chattanooga and Samford are in the lead, and Wofford is trying to fight back up.

Should CSU win out, and CCU finish 10-2, both should be top 20. Could the BSC get 2 teams, and if so, any chance the SoCon gets 2?? And would the two conferences face each other in the 1st round in any scenario? I want to go if CSU makes it, and a trip to Chattanooga or Samford would be a reasonable trip.
We don't play Brevard. We have Presby this weekend and the USC the following.
Oops, sorry. Got it confused, think Liberty plays them this week.