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Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:18 pm
by JALMOND
I had some problems getting this in last night but it seems to be working now. It is rather surprising to see the two remaining undefeated teams left in the conference. Not too surprising, I guess, that one is Montana who has shown that they are eager to put last season behind them. But also at the top and currently undefeated, although probably not for long is (you'll never guess it) Idaho State, who is a perfect 2-0 against DII opponents. The rest make up the meat of the conference with good wins and strong losses, for the most part. Here are this week's power rankings (last week in parenthesis). All are my opinion only and all up for discussion.

1. Eastern Washington (1)---For awhile it looked like lightning may strike twice for the Eagles in their quest for another win over the FBS until Toledo woke up and put the game away late. Still a strong showing in their difficult schedule. This week, a much welcomed break before getting back to the slate.

2. Montana (2)---In what was a statement game for the rest of the conference, the Grizzlies went in to North Dakota and got the jump on the former Sioux right from the start. Clearly, they are anxious to move past last year's debacle. This weekend, they welcome DII's Panhandle State to Wash-Griz stadium.

3. Montana State (3)---The Bobcats hoped that, even with their star quarterback on the shelf for a bit, they could still hold their own against DII Colorado Mesa. They did get the win, although it was more the defense that rose to the occasion. They will need more play from their quarterback this weekend as they head down to the Southland and play Stephen F Austin.

4. Cal Poly (5)---After playing a tough FBS team in Fresno State, the Mustangs thought they were getting a break this past weekend, playing at Colorado State. They did play the Rams tough, hanging around for the better part of three quarters, but still came out on the short end of the stick. This weekend they have off.

5. Southern Utah (4)---The Thunderbirds had the misfortune of catching the Pac-12's Washington State after a big Cougar win over Southern Cal. They still were able to stay close through much of the game. This weekend, they go on the road to face reeling Sacramento State.

6. North Dakota (6)---The former Sioux were eager to show the conference that they were ready to make some noise this year as they got ready to play Montana at their own house. Maybe they were a little too eager as they were shut down completely by the Grizzlies. At least they get this weekend to get over it.

7. Northern Arizona (7)---The Lumberjack offense has scored 7 points so far this season and literally needed their defense to secure a win over UC-Davis last week, getting two interceptions late in the game. A game this weekend against South Dakota should be easy pickings, but it will be far from that if the Lumberjacks can't find their offense.

8. Portland State (8)---After a fairly good showing against California, the Vikings continued their good fortune feasting on DII, this time Humboldt State. The offense seems to really be clicking while the defense is holding its own. They will need it this weekend as they head down to UC-Davis.

9. Northern Colorado (9)---The Bears tried to fit a schedule to make some noise this season. Schedule two patsies and then FBS weakling Wyoming and head into the FBS undefeated. However, they slipped against CSU-Pueblo and Wyoming is not the weak link this season. They will try to get back to winning this weekend as they entertain Missouri Valley's powerhouse Northern Iowa.

10. Weber State (10)---After getting an impressive win against Stephen F Austin, the Wildcats stumbled big time against both Utah and Utah State. Even with the big losses, they can still dwell on their win over their FCS opponent. This weekend they return to the Southland, heading on down the road to McNeese State.

11. Idaho State (12)---Currently the Bengals sit at 2-0 which is pretty remarkable until one sees that they got those two wins over DII competition. The Bengals have shown they can beat the lower division, this weekend they head up to the Pac-12 and play at Washington. Welcome to the big time.

12. UC-Davis (13)---The Aggies had their game last week against Northern Arizona pretty much won. Their defense played a great game and the win was right there. Then their offense let it slip away with two interceptions late in the game. They will definitely need their offense to show up this weekend as they face that powerful offense from Portland State.

13. Sacramento State (11)---The good news was that the Hornets found their offense last week against the NAIA's Southern Oregon. The bad news was that their defense never showed up which created an awesome shootout in a game that was not even supposed to be close. They will need to get their act together on both sides of the ball as they welcome Southern Utah to their home.

RECAP: 1-2 pulling away, 3-5 behind, 6-8 on their heels, and 9-13 bringing up the rear.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:52 am
by Keeper
My ranking by power rating:

Montana
E Washington
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Montana St
UC Davis
Southern Utah
North Dakota
Portland St
CS Sacramento
N Colorado
Weber St
Idaho St

Aggies could easily be 2-1

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:11 am
by AZGrizFan
Keeper wrote:My ranking by power rating:

Montana
E Washington
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Montana St
UC Davis
Southern Utah
North Dakota
Portland St
CS Sacramento
N Colorado
Weber St
Idaho St

Aggies could easily be 2-1
I see NO WAY NAU could be that high, given their offensive issues right now.

Montana
E Washington
Cal Poly
Montana St
UC Davis
Southern Utah
North Dakota
Northern Arizona
Portland St
Weber St
CS Sacramento
Idaho State
N Colorado

1-2 Head and shoulders above the rest
3-7 a muddled mess
8-13 (at the risk of repeating myself) should go form their own D-II conference

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:49 pm
by GoAgs72
Keeper wrote:My ranking by power rating:

Montana
E Washington
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Montana St
UC Davis
Southern Utah
North Dakota
Portland St
CS Sacramento
N Colorado
Weber St
Idaho St

Aggies could easily be 2-1
I agree that the UC Davis Aggies could be 6th in the Big Sky and 2-1 IF they had an offense half as good as their defense. I think our new QB Jimmy Laughrea (Lock-ray) may be the answer but he needs more reps and a better OL. We'll have more answers after playing a decent Portland State team and a not so decent Idaho State team the next two weeks. I'm not really looking forward to Homecoming when we host Montana.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:16 am
by Sapper
E Washington
Montana St
Cal Poly
Montana
Southern Utah
Northern Arizona
Portland St
North Dakota
Weber St
Idaho St
CS Sacramento
UC Davis
N Colorado

Top three- EWU until another team has a more impressive win or a BSC team beats them they are # 1, MSU lost the QB but until they get beat by a BSC team they are number 2. Cal Poly has played well against FBS teams. Montana is doing better than I thought but then App State tanked, until they have a signature win they stay fourth. If you lose to a DII no matter how good, lose all your games or need OT to not get beat by a DII you go to the bottom until you prove yourself. GoAgs72 I would not overlook ISU I will be in Davis for the game and I think that the road losing streak for ISU is coming to an END. ISU has only played two DII schools we are 5th for yards per game and 5th for fewest yards a game allowed we need to get threw the Washington game with out key players getting injured and we will be good. I think ISU is a little better than people think not much but a little.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:59 am
by AZGrizFan
Sapper wrote:E Washington
Montana St
Cal Poly
Montana
Southern Utah
Northern Arizona
Portland St
North Dakota
Weber St
Idaho St
CS Sacramento
UC Davis
N Colorado

Top three- EWU until another team has a more impressive win or a BSC team beats them they are # 1, MSU lost the QB but until they get beat by a BSC team they are number 2. Cal Poly has played well against FBS teams. Montana is doing better than I thought but then App State tanked, until they have a signature win they stay fourth.
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:12 pm
by uofmman1122
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sapper wrote:E Washington
Montana St
Cal Poly
Montana
Southern Utah
Northern Arizona
Portland St
North Dakota
Weber St
Idaho St
CS Sacramento
UC Davis
N Colorado

Top three- EWU until another team has a more impressive win or a BSC team beats them they are # 1, MSU lost the QB but until they get beat by a BSC team they are number 2. Cal Poly has played well against FBS teams. Montana is doing better than I thought but then App State tanked, until they have a signature win they stay fourth.
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The haters are gonna keep hating. :nod:

Sapper was the idiot that said we'd be lucky to win 7 games. :lol:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:51 pm
by SDHornet
I don't disagree with Jalmonds top 4, I'd obviously drop NAU a bit, raise PSU a notch, and place the lone winless team at the bottom. Hard to tell this early given quite a few teams have yet to start FCS play.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:15 pm
by Sapper
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sapper wrote:E Washington
Montana St
Cal Poly
Montana
Southern Utah
Northern Arizona
Portland St
North Dakota
Weber St
Idaho St
CS Sacramento
UC Davis
N Colorado

Top three- EWU until another team has a more impressive win or a BSC team beats them they are # 1, MSU lost the QB but until they get beat by a BSC team they are number 2. Cal Poly has played well against FBS teams. Montana is doing better than I thought but then App State tanked, until they have a signature win they stay fourth.
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The # 12 team lost to a middle rung team with a 7-4 reord last year and according to this poll Montana beat a middle to bottom ranked BSC team. That does not = a #1 ranking. As for winning 7 you might but I dont think you will beat EWU, CAL Polly and even with MSUs QB out you play @ MSU I think they will win. Nothing personal just going off what has happen so far this year. If you want to just use win lose record we can Montana is #1 tied with ISU.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:16 pm
by AZGrizFan
Sapper wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The # 12 team lost to a middle rung team with a 7-4 reord last year and according to this poll Montana beat a middle to bottom ranked BSC team. That does not = a #1 ranking. As for winning 7 you might but I dont think you will beat EWU, CAL Polly and even with MSUs QB out you play @ MSU I think they will win. Nothing personal just going off what has happen so far this year. If you want to just use win lose record we can Montana is #1 tied with ISU.
Who said anything about #1? Hell I don't even have them at #1...but they sure as HELL are above MSU, and having them below Cal Poly is questionable as well.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:32 pm
by Grizalltheway
Sapper wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The # 12 team lost to a middle rung team with a 7-4 reord last year and according to this poll Montana beat a middle to bottom ranked BSC team. That does not = a #1 ranking. As for winning 7 you might but I dont think you will beat EWU, CAL Polly and even with MSUs QB out you play @ MSU I think they will win. Nothing personal just going off what has happen so far this year. If you want to just use win lose record we can Montana is #1 tied with ISU.
You clearly haven't watched this team if you really think they're going to lose all three of those games. Just not gonna happen.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:37 pm
by uofmman1122
Grizalltheway wrote:
Sapper wrote:
The # 12 team lost to a middle rung team with a 7-4 reord last year and according to this poll Montana beat a middle to bottom ranked BSC team. That does not = a #1 ranking. As for winning 7 you might but I dont think you will beat EWU, CAL Polly and even with MSUs QB out you play @ MSU I think they will win. Nothing personal just going off what has happen so far this year. If you want to just use win lose record we can Montana is #1 tied with ISU.
You clearly haven't watched this team if you really think they're going to lose all three of those games. Just not gonna happen.
As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:41 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
uofmman1122 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
You clearly haven't watched this team if you really think they're going to lose all three of those games. Just not gonna happen.
As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.
HFA didn't help the Beavers. :coffee: :twisted:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:43 pm
by Grizalltheway
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.
HFA didn't help the Beavers. :coffee: :twisted:
Not much can help the Beavs.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:44 pm
by Grizalltheway
uofmman1122 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
You clearly haven't watched this team if you really think they're going to lose all three of those games. Just not gonna happen.
As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.
I guess having 70 points hung on you by a 5-6 team will do that. :lol:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:54 pm
by uofmman1122
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.
HFA didn't help the Beavers. :coffee: :twisted:
Our HFA is better than OSU's, i.e. it's harder to win in Missoula than in Corvallis. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:55 pm
by SDHornet
uofmman1122 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
HFA didn't help the Beavers. :coffee: :twisted:
Our HFA is better than OSU's, i.e. it's harder to win in Missoula than in Corvallis. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What BSC team hasn't won in Corvallis? :coffee:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:56 pm
by uofmman1122
SDHornet wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:Our HFA is better than OSU's, i.e. it's harder to win in Missoula than in Corvallis. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What BSC team hasn't won in Corvallis? :coffee:
I know a few that haven't won in Missoula. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:57 pm
by SDHornet
uofmman1122 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: What BSC team hasn't won in Corvallis? :coffee:
I know a few that haven't won in Missoula. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What does that have to do with Corvallis?

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:58 pm
by uofmman1122
SDHornet wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:I know a few that haven't won in Missoula. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What does that have to do with Corvallis?
Did you read my post that you quoted, or just the word "Corvallis"? :lol: :lol:

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:05 pm
by SDHornet
uofmman1122 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: What does that have to do with Corvallis?
Did you read my post that you quoted, or just the word "Corvallis"? :lol: :lol:
The post before that did have Corvallis in it...I think :?

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:20 pm
by grizzaholic
uofmman1122 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: What does that have to do with Corvallis?
Did you read my post that you quoted, or just the word "Corvallis"? :lol: :lol:
Don't listen to him. He is drunk.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:24 pm
by Sapper
uofmman1122 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
You clearly haven't watched this team if you really think they're going to lose all three of those games. Just not gonna happen.
As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago. :nod:

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.

No it is not personal. I just dont let my love or hatred for a team cloud my judgment. Montana does not have a signature win, and has not played a FBS school to be compared against. It is not very objective to state that UM is better than MSU or Cal Poly as at this point there is not substantiating evidence to prove they are.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:24 pm
by SDHornet
grizzaholic wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:Did you read my post that you quoted, or just the word "Corvallis"? :lol: :lol:
Don't listen to him. He is drunk.
Go jump in the ocean...scratch that, I'll do that myself. 8-)

Later bitches.

Re: Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:26 pm
by SuperHornet
What idiots. SD is drunk? No way. SD speaks the truth.

Even when he contradicts my craziness....