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RANK SCHOOL (FIRST-PLACE VOTES) 2012 RECORD POINTS FINAL 2012 RANK
1 North Dakota State (23) 14-1 645 1
2 Montana State (1) 11-2 591 5
3 Eastern Washington 11-3 549 4
4 Sam Houston State (1) 11-4 534 2
5 Wofford 9-4 450 7
6 Central Arkansas 9-3 428 10
7 South Dakota State 9-4 410 17
8 New Hampshire 8-4 386 13
9 Villanova 8-4 381 16
10 Illinois State 9-4 379 9
11 Cal Poly 9-3 348 11
12 Towson 7-4 347 15
13 Stony Brook 10-3 326 12
14 Richmond 8-3 274 18
15 James Madison 7-4 235 21
16 Northern Iowa 5-6 218 NR
17 Lehigh 10-1 198 14
18 Northern Arizona 8-2 196 20
19 Eastern Kentucky (1) 8-3 188 19
20 Bethune-Cookman 9-3 159 23
21 Coastal Carolina 8-5 140 24
22 Montana 6-2* 135 NR
23 Eastern Illinois 7-5 120 25
24 Youngstown State 7-4 107 NR
25 Chattanooga 6-5 104 NR

htownbearkat wrote:19 Eastern Kentucky (1) 8-3 188 19
20 Bethune-Cookman 9-3 159 23
21 Coastal Carolina 8-5 140 24
22 Montana 6-2* 135 NR
23 Eastern Illinois 7-5 120 25
24 Youngstown State 7-4 107 NR
25 Chattanooga 6-5 104 NR

Really the only things of note... a first place vote for EKU and only three teams that weren't ranked last year. Talk about who gives a shit...

Hmmm.....there are a couple of things missing here. Can't quite put my finger on it.......

so why are there only 26 total 1st place votes?

htownbearkat wrote:so why are there only 26 total 1st place votes?

26 voters I guess.

We were 6-2?

Brock Landers wrote:We were 6-2?

Did we forfeit games LAST year too?

AZGrizFan wrote:

Brock Landers wrote:We were 6-2?

Did we forfeit games LAST year too?

Final 6 games vacated according to poll - which is wrong - games vacated were in 2011

dbackjon wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

Did we forfeit games LAST year too?

Final 6 games vacated according to poll

Well, that would be difficult, since we only WON 5 games all last year. how did we go to 6-2?

89Hen wrote:

htownbearkat wrote:19 Eastern Kentucky (1) 8-3 188 19
20 Bethune-Cookman 9-3 159 23
21 Coastal Carolina 8-5 140 24
22 Montana 6-2* 135 NR
23 Eastern Illinois 7-5 120 25
24 Youngstown State 7-4 107 NR
25 Chattanooga 6-5 104 NR

Really the only things of note... a first place vote for EKU and only three teams that weren't ranked last year. Talk about who gives a ****...

Check your math.

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Final 6 games vacated according to poll

Well, that would be difficult, since we only WON 5 games all last year. how did we go to 6-2?

It is the coaches poll. They used your 2011 record, which did have the six games vacated...

For the most part, the top part seems about right. I do have some qualms, though.

IL St, Towson St, Richmond, NAU, EKY, B-C, CCU, TN-Chatt too high.

YSU, UM, UNI, JMU too low.

SuperHornet wrote:For the most part, the top part seems about right. I do have some qualms, though.

IL St, Towson St, Richmond, NAU, EKY, B-C, CCU, TN-Chatt too high.

YSU, UM, UNI, JMU too low.

Curious, why NAU too high? 8-3 last year, one of the top RB in the nation, 14 starters in total coming back. 18 seems about right.

dbackjon wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:For the most part, the top part seems about right. I do have some qualms, though.

IL St, Towson St, Richmond, NAU, EKY, B-C, CCU, TN-Chatt too high.

YSU, UM, UNI, JMU too low.

Curious, why NAU too high? 8-3 last year, one of the top RB in the nation, 14 starters in total coming back. 18 seems about right.

You HAVE to support NAU. That's expected. That's honorable. But I'm fully expecting last year to be a fluke, with a return of the perennial mid-to-late-season flop. I've seen it too many times before....

One team in the top 7 east of the Mississippi? I could use a healthy dose of ECB about now.

htownbearkat wrote:RANK SCHOOL (FIRST-PLACE VOTES) 2012 RECORD POINTS FINAL 2012 RANK
1 North Dakota State (23) 14-1 645 1
2 Montana State (1) 11-2 591 5
3 Eastern Washington 11-3 549 4
4 Sam Houston State (1) 11-4 534 2
5 Wofford 9-4 450 7
6 Central Arkansas 9-3 428 10
7 South Dakota State 9-4 410 17
8 New Hampshire 8-4 386 13
9 Villanova 8-4 381 16
10 Illinois State 9-4 379 9
11 Cal Poly 9-3 348 11
12 Towson 7-4 347 15
13 Stony Brook 10-3 326 12
14 Richmond 8-3 274 18
15 James Madison 7-4 235 21
16 Northern Iowa 5-6 218 NR
17 Lehigh 10-1 198 14
18 Northern Arizona 8-2 196 20
19 Eastern Kentucky (1) 8-3 188 19
20 Bethune-Cookman 9-3 159 23
21 Coastal Carolina 8-5 140 24
22 Montana 6-2* 135 NR
23 Eastern Illinois 7-5 120 25
24 Youngstown State 7-4 107 NR
25 Chattanooga 6-5 104 NR

No Portland State.

Guess it is about right.

SuperHornet wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Curious, why NAU too high? 8-3 last year, one of the top RB in the nation, 14 starters in total coming back. 18 seems about right.

You HAVE to support NAU. That's expected. That's honorable. But I'm fully expecting last year to be a fluke, with a return of the perennial mid-to-late-season flop. I've seen it too many times before....

Like I mentioned in the other thread, they have three defensive stand-outs and an experienced line in addition to Bauman. They have a good chance of being in the mix.

kalm wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
You HAVE to support NAU. That's expected. That's honorable. But I'm fully expecting last year to be a fluke, with a return of the perennial mid-to-late-season flop. I've seen it too many times before....

Like I mentioned in the other thread, they have three defensive stand-outs and an experienced line in addition to Bauman. They have a good chance of being in the mix.

Isn't NAU kind of like Illinois St - they frequently come into the season with high expectations and usually have a disappointing finish and miss the playoffs? Hopefully they get over the hump this year like Illinois State did last year.

UNI88 wrote:

kalm wrote:
Like I mentioned in the other thread, they have three defensive stand-outs and an experienced line in addition to Bauman. They have a good chance of being in the mix.

Isn't NAU kind of like Illinois St - they frequently come into the season with high expectations and usually have a disappointing finish and miss the playoffs? Hopefully they get over the hump this year like Illinois State did last year.

NAU is more like Haley's Comet: relevant once every dozen or so years....and that was last year.

SuperHornet wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Curious, why NAU too high? 8-3 last year, one of the top RB in the nation, 14 starters in total coming back. 18 seems about right.

You HAVE to support NAU. That's expected. That's honorable. But I'm fully expecting last year to be a fluke, with a return of the perennial mid-to-late-season flop. I've seen it too many times before....

So instead of using recent results, then you are projecting based on things that happened years ago.

Stupid.


I guess then there is never a reason to ever vote for Liberty or Sac State.

and the Cowboys may as well not even play.

I think that the MSU Bobcats are ranked to high at 2. We lost to EWU last year and I don't even want to talk about the quarter finals. I think that we should be around 5-6

Man, that ILSU @ Northern Iowa game was fvcking embarrassing. Only game I went to last year and we gots runned the fvck over.

All of this pre season poll crap is worthless as tits on a bull....

BDKJMU wrote:All of this pre season poll crap is worthless as tits on a bull....

As you've said before...

kalm wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:All of this pre season poll crap is worthless as tits on a bull....

As you've said before...

Well, every year people get their panties in a bunch over a bunch of worthless pre season polls.

Thank god we have the playoffs....