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Won't go nowhere...

Col Hogan wrote:Won't go nowhere...

Maybe you and Idaho can do it together. You know, to ease the embarrassment a bit.

Why did they take the MAC anyway? Wouldn't the Big East have been a better fit? Seems to me that the Big East picking up UMASS would have been a whole lot simpler than trying to be the ECHL....

Just like the Snoats brothers crawling back into jail at the end of Raising Arizona!

UMass hasn't even finished their transition yet. They aren't full FBS and do not have a full compliment of FBS players (not even close). They need to give it time and see if they improve before pulling the trigger on a move back.

I have posted many times on various boards that the overwhelming likelihood is that moving from I-AA/FCS to I-A/FBS is a financial loser because, though revenues will increase substantially, expenses will increase even more substantially.

But once you go ahead and commit to making the move it's tough to go back because then you've committed the resources to move. Plus you will probably be dealing with a delusional fan base that thinks you really do belong in FBS when you don't. There are only somewhere around 60 to 70 schools that really do belong in FBS.

Course I guess if only the programs that really belong in FBS were there the bowl system would kind of be screwed since it's gotten to the absurd point where they need more than half of the teams currently in FBS...whether they belong there or not...to fill the spots.

JohnStOnge wrote:I have posted many times on various boards that the overwhelming likelihood is that moving from I-AA/FCS to I-A/FBS is a financial loser because, though revenues will increase substantially, expenses will increase even more substantially.

But once you go ahead and commit to making the move it's tough to go back because then you've committed the resources to move. Plus you will probably be dealing with a delusional fan base that thinks you really do belong in FBS when you don't. There are only somewhere around 60 to 70 schools that really do belong in FBS.

Course I guess if only the programs that really belong in FBS were there the bowl system would kind of be screwed since it's gotten to the absurd point where they need more than half of the teams currently in FBS...whether they belong there or not...to fill the spots.

The embarrassment of moving back down is too much to overcome for most programs who find the going a struggle. They'll rob Peter to pay Paul, spend money they don't have or play every game on the road before admitting it was a mistake to move up. Glad U Mass has some level heads studying the issue. I've always felt they would be a great candidate for FBS but apparently it's a tougher row to hoe than they've realized. And with the new playoff system coming online, it's about to get much tougher.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:Won't go nowhere...

Maybe you and Idaho can do it together. You know, to ease the embarrassment a bit.

No,no. UMass's football program has to sit around hemorrhaging taxpayer money for 20 years of 3-win seasons before they can hope to do things the Idaho way.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Maybe you and Idaho can do it together. You know, to ease the embarrassment a bit.

No,no. UMass's football program has to sit around hemorrhaging taxpayer money for 20 years of 3-win seasons before they can hope to do things the Idaho way.

Where is a spiteful Kem post to refute these facts when you need one.

UMass is going to take 3-5 years to develop. The Big East was not the place for them now. Much to much football talent from BE teams for the them to handle. If you are strugling in the MAC playing UConn, Syracuse , Cincy etc would be a disaster every week. And the Big East isnt even the SEC or Big Ten.
I bet by 2015 and beyond you will see an improved UMass program.

The faculty at Rutgers have been trying to do away with football for years. No word yet on whether they'll wait until they enter the Big 10 to drop the sport or not. We know how powerful faculty are when it comes to sports decisions.

GannonFan wrote:The faculty at Rutgers have been trying to do away with football for years. No word yet on whether they'll wait until they enter the Big 10 to drop the sport or not. We know how powerful faculty are when it comes to sports decisions.

It took about ten years for it to happen, but the faculty DID get football banished at UOP. And they got the President to be so underhanded as to do it THROUGH THE NEWS a week before Christmas without even bothering to gather the team to inform them beforehand. Now, THAT is sneaky....

GannonFan wrote:The faculty at Rutgers have been trying to do away with football for years. No word yet on whether they'll wait until they enter the Big 10 to drop the sport or not. We know how powerful faculty are when it comes to sports decisions.

Now that very football program has gotten Rutgers membership in the most elite, prestigous academic consortium.


HA!

GannonFan wrote:The faculty at Rutgers have been trying to do away with football for years. No word yet on whether they'll wait until they enter the Big 10 to drop the sport or not. We know how powerful faculty are when it comes to sports decisions.

So did elements of the Dartmouth faculty. And Swarthmore's!

Ivytalk wrote:Just like the Snoats brothers crawling back into jail at the end of Raising Arizona!

Ma'am, U breastfeedin?

Ivytalk wrote:Just like the Snoats brothers crawling back into jail at the end of Raising Arizona!

Brilliant!

Ivytalk wrote:

GannonFan wrote:The faculty at Rutgers have been trying to do away with football for years. No word yet on whether they'll wait until they enter the Big 10 to drop the sport or not. We know how powerful faculty are when it comes to sports decisions.

So did elements of the Dartmouth faculty. And Swarthmore's!

There's no real evidence that students at Swarthmore every really played sports (well, football at least).

Now, the University of Chicago, now there's a place where the faculty had/has power. Went from having a Heisman trophy winner to no football in just a handful of years. Won't see that happen again.

SuperHornet wrote:Why did they take the MAC anyway? Wouldn't the Big East have been a better fit? Seems to me that the Big East picking up UMASS would have been a whole lot simpler than trying to be the ECHL....

When did the Big East offer UMass to join? I must have missed that. They chose the MAC because the MAC invited them.

Didn't say they did. Saying they could have held out for it. Having UMASS in the Big East makes a whole lot more sense than San Diego State. Besides, renewing the rivalry with UCONN could be a program-saver....

SuperHornet wrote:Didn't say they did. Saying they could have held out for it. Having UMASS in the Big East makes a whole lot more sense than San Diego State. Besides, renewing the rivalry with UCONN could be a program-saver....

Nothing the Big East does/did makes sense. That's why they're not going to exist in the near future.

SJHornet wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Didn't say they did. Saying they could have held out for it. Having UMASS in the Big East makes a whole lot more sense than San Diego State. Besides, renewing the rivalry with UCONN could be a program-saver....

Nothing the Big East does/did makes sense. That's why they're not going to exist in the near future.

There could be something to that, SJ.

Anyone wanna lay odds on the Big East's implosion happening before the WAC?

ASUMountaineer wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Why did they take the MAC anyway? Wouldn't the Big East have been a better fit? Seems to me that the Big East picking up UMASS would have been a whole lot simpler than trying to be the ECHL....

When did the Big East offer UMass to join? I must have missed that. They chose the MAC because the MAC invited them.

IMO, a Big East invitation was not forthcoming for UMass. They joined the MAC with the intention/hope of making the transition and soon after getting an offer from the Big East. That was before the Big East basically went down the crapper. UMass would make a lot of sense for the Big East if they were ready and the Big East was viable. But at this point I'm not sure if it's viable, UMass might be better off in the MAC for now.

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Should have never left they aren't ready for D1 football.Villanova might have been more prepared.

dal4018 wrote:

MrTitleist wrote:Faculty apparently..
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Should have never left they aren't ready for D1 football.Villanova might have been more prepared.