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Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:51 am
by Mvemjsunpx
This is the biggest mismatch of the first round, IMO. Colgate is on a offensive roll, having won 7 in a row with an unstoppable offense, and is outscoring their opponents by 16 ppg despite giving up 33 ppg during the streak. The Seahawks did pound NEC favorite Albany, but haven't looked even vaguely like a playoff team otherwise. That being said, Wagner does have a chance simply because they can run the ball & Colgate's run defense is awful. Wagner's own run defense is mediocre compared to their other solid defensive stats, though, so I don't think they'll be able to slow Colgate's dual-pronged rushing attack well enough to win. The Seahawks haven't scored more than 31 points in a game this season, and I doubt 31 points will be enough to win this one.
The numbers Gavin McCarney has put up this season for Colgate are insane, particularly during the win streak. He's averaging 158.9 ypg on the ground (slightly more than his RB, Jordan McCord) over the past 7 games, and is also averaging 228.1 ypg through the air for a total of 387 ypg of total offense. That's a frightening total for a running QB.
Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:
- Quarterbacks -- Colgate
Running Backs - Colgate
Receivers/TEs - Colgate
Offensive Line - Colgate
Defensive Line - (push)
Linebackers --- Wagner
Secondary ---- Wagner
Kicking ------ Wagner
Punting ------ Wagner
Return Teams - Wagner
Kickoffs ------ Wagner
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:16 am
by dal4018
Mvemjsunpx wrote:This is the biggest mismatch of the first round, IMO. Colgate is on a offensive roll, having won 7 in a row with an unstoppable offense, and is outscoring their opponents by 16 ppg despite giving up 33 ppg during the streak. The Seahawks did pound NEC favorite Albany, but haven't looked even vaguely like a playoff team otherwise. That being said, Wagner does have a chance simply because they can run the ball & Colgate's run defense is awful. Wagner's own run defense is mediocre compared to their other solid defensive stats, though, so I don't think they'll be able to slow Colgate's dual-pronged rushing attack well enough to win. The Seahawks haven't scored more than 31 points in a game this season, and I doubt 31 points will be enough to win this one.
The numbers Gavin McCarney has put up this season for Colgate are insane, particularly during the win streak. He's averaging 158.9 ypg on the ground (slightly more than his RB, Jordan McCord) over the past 7 games, and is also averaging 228.1 ypg through the air for a total of 387 ypg of total offense. That's a frightening total for a running QB.
Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:
- Quarterbacks -- Colgate
Running Backs - Colgate
Receivers/TEs - Colgate
Offensive Line - Colgate
Defensive Line - (push)
Linebackers --- Wagner
Secondary ---- Wagner
Kicking ------ Wagner
Punting ------ Wagner
Return Teams - Wagner
Kickoffs ------ Wagner
If you think Colgate is a sinch to win this game why do give the advantage in most areas on this matchup to Wagner?Same thing you did for the CCU-BCU game.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:37 am
by danefan
I think it will be a good game, but I don't think Wagner will win.
Wagner of the first half against Albany was an abhoration.
Colgate has been playing very well of late.
If Wagner can play the way they played against Albany they can win. I just don't see that happening.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:57 pm
by Ivytalk
I'll say Gate by 11, 38-27.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:00 pm
by LDopaPDX
I don't know a damn thing about Wagner other than what you can see on a stat sheet.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:38 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
dal4018 wrote:If you think Colgate is a sinch to win this game why do give the advantage in most areas on this matchup to Wagner?Same thing you did for the CCU-BCU game.
Colgate's advantages on QB, WR, & OLine are rather large.
Wagner's defense is pretty good overall, but their run defense is barely better than average. For that reason, I don't think they'll stop Colgate. They should be able to run on the Raider defense, but if they fall behind & have to pass it's over.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:04 am
by EWURanger
Might try and catch this one if there's a link. I hadn't ever heard of Wagner prior to this year's bracket, but judging from your assessment it looks like we want them to win.
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Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:06 am
by EWURanger
Anyone have a time and/or link for this game?
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Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:30 am
by kalm
EWURanger wrote:Anyone have a time and/or link for this game?
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9:00
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Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:04 am
by SeattleGriz
22 mph winds and 43 degrees to kick off the game.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:05 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
Damn, didn't know their McCheese Bro RBs were #1 and #2 in scoring at RB... impressive.

Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:07 am
by SeattleGriz
Announcers said Colgate was great on offense and Wagner was great on defense...for what it is worth.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:08 am
by SeattleGriz
Wagner goes three and out.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:10 am
by EWURanger
My provider doesn't get espn3...any other options?
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Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:11 am
by SeattleGriz
EWURanger wrote:My provider doesn't get espn3...any other options?
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I think first row sports is about the only other option.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:13 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
Big pick for Wagner, gonna have the ball around the Colgate 17 after a 26 yard return.
Aaaand TD Seahawks!
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:13 am
by SeattleGriz
Colgate QB pressured and he throws a pick. Wagner with the ball after a 30 yard return to their 17.
What /\ he said.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:14 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
What are those gay lines on the field, lacrosse?

Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:20 am
by SeattleGriz
Three and out for Colgate after great kickoff return.
Wagner ball at own 15.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:20 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
Wagner's D looks good. Not impressed by either offense.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:21 am
by SeattleGriz
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Wagner's D looks good. Not impressed by either offense.
I think they could be all hyped (excited) up.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:23 am
by SeattleGriz
3 and out for Wagner.
As Screaming Eagle said, neither offense looks that good yet.
Crappy punt, 'Gate with ball at their 47.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:26 am
by SeattleGriz
Colgate QB fumbles at the 20. Wag ball.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:29 am
by SeattleGriz
Wag's offensive futility continues with 3 pedestrian downs.
Colgate with ball on their 45.
Wags 7
Gate 0
4:48 left in 1st qtr.
Re: Colgate @ Wagner
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:33 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
Neither of these option teams have anything on CP. EWU will destroy either one. Also, their WRs are terrible.
