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Astounded how there is not video replay at the FCS level.

In my opinion, it is total bullshit.

I only get a chance to watch Griz games for the most, but have seen at least five instances in which plays would have been overruled.

I can only imagine how many calls there are in not only the Big Sky, but FCS as well.

They have the technology in place, just need to implement.

I think the reasoning for not having replay is that not all FCS games are televised and they want the rules to apply equally for all teams.

Could have used it today in Fargo.

BlueHen86 wrote:I think the reasoning for not having replay is that not all FCS games are televised and they want the rules to apply equally for all teams.

I understand what you are saying, but to think non-televised games don't have video proof is very weak, in my opinion.

SeattleGriz wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:I think the reasoning for not having replay is that not all FCS games are televised and they want the rules to apply equally for all teams.

I understand what you are saying, but to think non-televised games don't have video proof is very weak, in my opinion.

1 or 2 camera angles, which more than likely suck shit for replay purposes do not help

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clenz wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but to think non-televised games don't have video proof is very weak, in my opinion.

1 or 2 camera angles, which more than likely suck shit for replay purposes do not help

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Video is cheap. Why does the FCS need an official TV camera? You could easily put students in charge of video duty and would get close to 100% coverage.

Holy shit, you guys act as if it takes a genius to record a play.

Fuck.

clenz wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but to think non-televised games don't have video proof is very weak, in my opinion.

1 or 2 camera angles, which more than likely suck shit for replay purposes do not help

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One of the things ODU has to do for FBS play is create a video replay booth. We are not sure how we will do that yet.

CAA Flagship wrote:

clenz wrote: 1 or 2 camera angles, which more than likely suck shit for replay purposes do not help

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One of the things ODU has to do for FBS play is create a video replay booth. We are not sure how we will do that yet.

Haysoos Marimba. Are you kidding me? You can't put cheap ass cameras at all the angles?

I am not trying to be dick, but that is just fucking retarded.

Like I said, if you gave a link to students with phones, they would post so much video it would be disgusting.

Stop trying to recreate the wheel when it already exists.

SeattleGriz wrote:Astounded how there is not video replay at the FCS level.

In my opinion, it is total bullshit.

Agreed, I have always thought this. It's nice to get it in the playoffs.


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EWURanger wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:Astounded how there is not video replay at the FCS level.

In my opinion, it is total bullshit.

Agreed, I have always thought this. It's nice to get it in the playoffs.


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In this day and age of video (students with internet capable phones), it is impossible to record every play? I admit there would need to be a filter, but that also should be a software issue.

SeattleGriz wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: One of the things ODU has to do for FBS play is create a video replay booth. We are not sure how we will do that yet.

Haysoos Marimba. Are you kidding me? You can't put cheap ass cameras at all the angles?

I am not trying to be dick, but that is just fucking retarded.

Like I said, if you gave a link to students with phones, they would post so much video it would be disgusting.

Stop trying to recreate the wheel when it already exists.

Booth. I said BOOTH. I'm not sure what is required of a booth, but we do not have a lot of press box space in our ancient home. And it's not like we can just simply add on because of the configuration. Our admin is trying to figure this out.

CAA Flagship wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
Haysoos Marimba. Are you kidding me? You can't put cheap ass cameras at all the angles?

I am not trying to be dick, but that is just fucking retarded.

Like I said, if you gave a link to students with phones, they would post so much video it would be disgusting.

Stop trying to recreate the wheel when it already exists.

Booth. I said BOOTH. I'm not sure what is required of a booth, but we do not have a lot of press box space in our ancient home. And it's not like we can just simply add on because of the configuration. Our admin is trying to figure this out.

I get what you are saying, and my question is: Is it really that hard? Sounds as if you need to lay into the ODU powers that be for being so stupid.

Video is cheap, and so is a booth to review. Fucking sad ODU can't come up with a plan.

Not knocking you man, just astounded how stupid people can be. It's a simple solution.

SeattleGriz wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: Booth. I said BOOTH. I'm not sure what is required of a booth, but we do not have a lot of press box space in our ancient home. And it's not like we can just simply add on because of the configuration. Our admin is trying to figure this out.

I get what you are saying, and my question is: Is it really that hard? Sounds as if you need to lay into the ODU powers that be for being so stupid.

Video is cheap, and so is a booth to review. Fucking sad ODU can't come up with a plan.

Not knocking you man, just astounded how stupid people can be. It's a simple solution.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/f ... eplay.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: Press box is where the replay booth is located.

Now, with our configuration, we cannot expand our press box without major dollars. Remember, there are rules for compliance with ADA standards when certain modifications are performed. There is no elevator for our press boxes.


I don't disagree that replays are desired at the FCS level. I'm just telling you that there is not enough money for all FCS schools to make the necessary arrangements.

CAA Flagship wrote:

I don't disagree that replays are desired at the FCS level. I'm just telling you that there is not enough money for all FCS schools to make the necessary arrangements.

Lies...any cell phone camera is all that's needed....no need to actually think about the actual logistics of it all

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CAA Flagship wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
I get what you are saying, and my question is: Is it really that hard? Sounds as if you need to lay into the ODU powers that be for being so stupid.

Video is cheap, and so is a booth to review. Fucking sad ODU can't come up with a plan.

Not knocking you man, just astounded how stupid people can be. It's a simple solution.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/f ... eplay.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: Press box is where the replay booth is located.

Now, with our configuration, we cannot expand our press box without major dollars. Remember, there are rules for compliance with ADA standards when certain modifications are performed. There is no elevator for our press boxes.


I don't disagree that replays are desired at the FCS level. I'm just telling you that there is not enough money for all FCS schools to make the necessary arrangements.

Then allow those that can support a review to do such.

Once again, the NCAA is dictating their standards upon everyone.

SeattleGriz wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/f ... eplay.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: Press box is where the replay booth is located.

Now, with our configuration, we cannot expand our press box without major dollars. Remember, there are rules for compliance with ADA standards when certain modifications are performed. There is no elevator for our press boxes.


I don't disagree that replays are desired at the FCS level. I'm just telling you that there is not enough money for all FCS schools to make the necessary arrangements.

Then allow those that can support a review to do such.

Once again, the NCAA is dictating their standards upon everyone.

It's all for it or non for it


You cant have some games in a conference with it and some not....it's like only enforcing some rules at certain locations

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We had video replay in our game against Morgan State on Thursday. But that was because ESPN was there. Took a TD off the board for us.

I agree that it should be across the board tho. Not just in televised games.

clenz wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:

I don't disagree that replays are desired at the FCS level. I'm just telling you that there is not enough money for all FCS schools to make the necessary arrangements.

Lies...any cell phone camera is all that's needed....no need to actually think about the actual logistics of it all

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Exactly. As I previously stated, just need a filter to make sure the plays that need to be reviewed are first on the queue.

Get Root out to every BSC game and this issue goes away. I'm not just sayin', but I think SloStang is just sayin'.

I know it used to be a conference-by-conference matter at the FBS level. Is that still the case?
And is there any rule that prevent an FCS conference from adopting replay review?

Anywhere to find a list of FBS conferences that don't utlize replay review?

SeattleGriz wrote:

clenz wrote: 1 or 2 camera angles, which more than likely suck shit for replay purposes do not help

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Video is cheap. Why does the FCS need an official TV camera? You could easily put students in charge of video duty and would get close to 100% coverage.

Holy shit, you guys act as if it takes a genius to record a play.

Fuck.

It's not cheap. You would need multiple camera angles, and someone to oversee all the cameras, at every game. The money would add up fast. It's okay when the game is televised because advertisers, and maybe some donations, foot the bill.

I also would not trust students, and I wouldn't expect the coaches to either. Would you rather have the refs make a call, or do you want students deciding which camera angles to show the refs next time the Griz visit Montana State?

I'm in favor of replay, I just don't think the money is there for it.

BlueHen86 wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
Video is cheap. Why does the FCS need an official TV camera? You could easily put students in charge of video duty and would get close to 100% coverage.

Holy shit, you guys act as if it takes a genius to record a play.

Fuck.

It's not cheap. You would need multiple camera angles, and someone to oversee all the cameras, at every game. The money would add up fast. It's okay when the game is televised because advertisers, and maybe some donations, foot the bill.

I also would not trust students, and I wouldn't expect the coaches to either. Would you rather have the refs make a call, or do you want students deciding which camera angles to show the refs next time the Griz visit Montana State?

I'm in favor of replay, I just don't think the money is there for it.

This....i was being sarcastic with my earlier post

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SeattleGriz wrote:Astounded how there is not video replay at the FCS level.

In my opinion, it is total bullshit.

completely agree

SeattleGriz wrote:

clenz wrote: Lies...any cell phone camera is all that's needed....no need to actually think about the actual logistics of it all

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Exactly. As I previously stated, just need a filter to make sure the plays that need to be reviewed are first on the queue.

I was being sarcastic. Quality video isn't cheap....getting enough cameras isn't cheap...getting enough people who know what the fuck they are doing with their camera isn't cheap.

Any camera from Wal Mart isn't going to give a good enough video to use for a replay. The cameras that the NCAA and NFL use cost more than any school is willing to spend on 1 camera...let alone the 7-10 (minimum) required to get even decent coverage of all angles of the field. The standard F23 CineAlta style camer that does uncompressed HD rents for over THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY...FOR ONE OF THEM. The NFL and ABC/ESPN are using MUCH nicer cameras than that, with some of the best camera operators in America and you see how tough it is to make rulings with that kind of quality camera/camera work.


The standard $600 camera from Wal Mart with Joe Schmoe running it isn't going to cut it for replay. Couple that with getting the video sent real time, to a replay booth (which yep, has to actually be built for pretty much any school) isn't as cheap or easy as you want to believe. Plus there is the cost of paying for the extra officials, the extra telecommunication system, cost of training the officials on the use of the system, cost in installing the system in every venue, etc... The FBS pretty much all use the XOS HD Replay system. Do some reading on it....it's not as simple as you want to think.

Oh, and for a school that has to build a new booth, like our ODU fans have pointed out, it means having to meet a TON of new ADA rules that they have to meet....many of which won't be possible without tens of thousands of dollars in renovations to the stadium. If it was easily do able it would be in place right now. The first year of replay was 2005... the Atlantic Coast Conference, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West Conference, Pac-10, and SEC used replay in 2005 - the Sun Belt and Western Athletic did not. However, the WAC is gone after this year and the SBC (the WAC started using in it 2010, and the SBC started using it completely this year). Every FBS conference now uses it.




The fact is, that you don't understand it isn't as easy as point, shoot, rewatch.