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In the past the Big Sky conference has webcast all football games, does anyone know if they will be doing it this year?

Any game that is hosted by a Big Sky school & isn't on ROOT Sports should be available on BigSkyTV.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:Any game that is hosted by a Big Sky school & isn't on ROOT Sports should be available on BigSkyTV.

Unfortunately that means all of Cal Poly's BSC games will be on Big Sky TV seeing they are the only team without a game on Root TV.

SloStang wrote: Unfortunately that means all of Cal Poly's BSC games will be on Big Sky TV seeing they are the only team without a game on Root TV.

Root TV (a.k.a. the UM/MSU Sports Network). I know, I know...the bigger advertising market gets the bigger slice of the pie. The only way to change this is let your fellow Mustang fans know and to physically complain to ROOT.

SloStang wrote:

Mvemjsunpx wrote:Any game that is hosted by a Big Sky school & isn't on ROOT Sports should be available on BigSkyTV.

Unfortunately that means all of Cal Poly's BSC games will be on Big Sky TV seeing they are the only team without a game on Root TV.

It sucks, but unless Poly plays UM or MSU, they arent going to be on Root Sports. The Root Sports deal essentially screws the rest of the Big Sky's fans.

Herky wrote:

SloStang wrote: Unfortunately that means all of Cal Poly's BSC games will be on Big Sky TV seeing they are the only team without a game on Root TV.

It sucks, but unless Poly plays UM or MSU, they arent going to be on Root Sports. The Root Sports deal essentially screws the rest of the Big Sky's fans.

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Herky wrote:
It sucks, but unless Poly plays UM or MSU, they arent going to be on Root Sports. The Root Sports deal essentially screws the rest of the Big Sky's fans.

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Maybe if some other teams had worked as hard as MSU & UM in getting televised in the past , they would be getting more airtime today.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Herky wrote:
It sucks, but unless Poly plays UM or MSU, they arent going to be on Root Sports. The Root Sports deal essentially screws the rest of the Big Sky's fans.

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Who it really screws is the local Montana television broadcasting stations who are missing out on proven profitable broadcast events. If Cal Poly or any of the other Big Sky teams had proven broadcast records like MSU or UM's they would probably have gotten more games on Root. Also, UM and MSU have to split television revenues with the rest of the league who couldn't maintain a PROFITABLE broadcast relationship with a network on their own. Without MSU and UM there would probably be NO network contract for the Big Sky.

To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Be that as it may, the Big Sky would not have a television contract without UM or MSU.

Rich K wrote:

Wildcat Ryan wrote:To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Be that as it may, the Big Sky would not have a television contract without UM or MSU.

I agree, but they could have evened out the air time a little, nothing we can do about it though

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Rich K wrote: Be that as it may, the Big Sky would not have a television contract without UM or MSU.

I agree, but they could have evened out the air time a little, nothing we can do about it though

It's almost even, about 50% MSU, about 50% UM....

Rich K wrote:

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Who it really screws is the local Montana television broadcasting stations who are missing out on proven profitable broadcast events. If Cal Poly or any of the other Big Sky teams had proven broadcast records like MSU or UM's they would probably have gotten more games on Root. Also, UM and MSU have to split television revenues with the rest of the league who couldn't maintain a PROFITABLE broadcast relationship with a network on their own. Without MSU and UM there would probably be NO network contract for the Big Sky.

Four out of Cal Poly's five home games (all 4 Big Sky games) will be aired by KSBY TV. KSBY TV also video streams the broadcast on their web site at no charge.

SloStang wrote:

Rich K wrote: Who it really screws is the local Montana television broadcasting stations who are missing out on proven profitable broadcast events. If Cal Poly or any of the other Big Sky teams had proven broadcast records like MSU or UM's they would probably have gotten more games on Root. Also, UM and MSU have to split television revenues with the rest of the league who couldn't maintain a PROFITABLE broadcast relationship with a network on their own. Without MSU and UM there would probably be NO network contract for the Big Sky.

Four out of Cal Poly's five home games (all 4 Big Sky games) will be aired by KSBY TV. KSBY TV also video streams the broadcast on their web site at no charge.

That's great for Cal Poly, however, I think there is more concern over away games being televised, especially those that are such a far drive.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Completely agree! They don't have other schools in major FBS conferences to contend with. Most FCS teams don't get casual fans, the fans are alums, or family members of students/athletes. I think that UM and MSU are the exception, they are the only teams in the State of Montana.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Herky wrote:
It sucks, but unless Poly plays UM or MSU, they arent going to be on Root Sports. The Root Sports deal essentially screws the rest of the Big Sky's fans.

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Agree here as well.

Catattack wrote:

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Not only that, but it gives UM and MSU and even better recruiting advantage than they had before.

Maybe if some other teams had worked as hard as MSU & UM in getting televised in the past , they would be getting more airtime today.

MSU and UM have had very successful football programs and have worked hard at that. That's obvious and respected. It also helps when the commissioner is an alum of MSU, IMHO.

While it is said to be financially driven, why arent the biggest media markets being exploited? Or the areas with the highest earning fans? Doesnt make a lot of sense and seems like a lot of favoritism when money or revenue is the excuse.

SloStang wrote:

Rich K wrote: Who it really screws is the local Montana television broadcasting stations who are missing out on proven profitable broadcast events. If Cal Poly or any of the other Big Sky teams had proven broadcast records like MSU or UM's they would probably have gotten more games on Root. Also, UM and MSU have to split television revenues with the rest of the league who couldn't maintain a PROFITABLE broadcast relationship with a network on their own. Without MSU and UM there would probably be NO network contract for the Big Sky.

Four out of Cal Poly's five home games (all 4 Big Sky games) will be aired by KSBY TV. KSBY TV also video streams the broadcast on their web site at no charge.

Kiss these broadcasts (and revenue) goodbye when a home game features a Montana team.

Also Root would not be picking up any of the CA games even if we did have regularly televised games as Root does not have a presence in CA.

SDHornet wrote:

SloStang wrote: Four out of Cal Poly's five home games (all 4 Big Sky games) will be aired by KSBY TV. KSBY TV also video streams the broadcast on their web site at no charge.

Kiss these broadcasts (and revenue) goodbye when a home game features a Montana team.

Also Root would not be picking up any of the CA games even if we did have regularly televised games as Root does not have a presence in CA.

Would the station then have to purchase that game from Root so they could broadcast it? Or, since Root doesnt have a presence in CA, does that give the local station the go ahead to broadcast the game? Root may not have a presence in CA, however, Root sports can still be viewed through the two major satellite companies.

Herky wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Kiss these broadcasts (and revenue) goodbye when a home game features a Montana team.

Also Root would not be picking up any of the CA games even if we did have regularly televised games as Root does not have a presence in CA.

Would the station then have to purchase that game from Root so they could broadcast it? Or, since Root doesnt have a presence in CA, does that give the local station the go ahead to broadcast the game? Root may not have a presence in CA, however, Root sports can still be viewed through the two major satellite companies.

My understanding is games not picked up by Root can be televised by whoever those schools can sell the broadcasting rights to regardless of where the school is (i.e. Root doesn't have exclusive rights to all BSC games). Root picks outs its selected games ahead of time, then the schools can go to work and sell their remaining games to whoever they can.

Yes Root can still televise games in CA, but if they ever were to televise non Montana games why would Root show CP vs Sac in their Pac Northwest and Mountain areas? And yes I realize Root is available on satellite packages but my guess is they want to serve the wants and needs of those regions first and foremost.

Biggame wrote:In the past the Big Sky conference has webcast all football games, does anyone know if they will be doing it this year?

http://b2tv.com/upcoming_events.asp?q=v&value=bigsky

Wildcat Ryan wrote:To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Same thing in Portland, The local TV stations would much broadcast a football game for Oregon or Oregon State than a Portland State game on Saturdays and during basketball season we have to deal with those same schools along with the Trailblazers and University of Portland (Notre Dame-West).

Rich K wrote: If Cal Poly or any of the other Big Sky teams had proven broadcast records like MSU or UM's they would probably have gotten more games on Root.

There are three Root Sports networks--Northwest, Rocky Mountain, and Pittsburgh. Most of the Big Sky is in either the Northwest or the Rocky Mountain network footprints, but the California, Arizona, and North Dakota schools are not in either.

Montana is listed by both networks in their coverage areas.

CaseyOrourke wrote:

Wildcat Ryan wrote:To both MSU fans who posted after me, UM and MSU have never had to compete with other schools for air time, Weber has tried constantly to get a local station to air thier games, but a station wont give you the time of day if you are not BYU or Utah, even Utah State has to fight with Utah and BYU for airtime, the only time a local station would show Weber is if they are playing Utah and BYU and sometimes not even then. You say teams like MSU and UM have worked harder at getting a tv contract of thier own than other teams, you dont think that has anything at all to do with the fact that MSU and UM are the 2 major colleges in the state? If Weber was the only school in Utah, I'd bet good money they would have thier own tv station to.

Same thing in Portland, The local TV stations would much broadcast a football game for Oregon or Oregon State than a Portland State game on Saturdays and during basketball season we have to deal with those same schools along with the Trailblazers and University of Portland (Notre Dame-West).

I would suspect that is common in the Big Sky--Oregon, Utah, Washington, California, Colorado, Arizona, and Idaho all have that dynamic. It is the difference in terms of being the big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond.

Portland State has to contend with Oregon, Oregon State, Portland, and the Portland Trailblazers.
Weber State have to contend with Utah, BYU, Utah State, and the Utah Jazz.
Sacramento State has to contend with California, Stanford, the 49-ers and the Raiders, and the Sacramento Kings.
Northern Colorado has to contend with Colorado, Colorado State, the Broncos, Denver, and the Denver Nuggets.
Idaho State has Boise State and Idaho.
Northern Arizona has Arizona, Arizona State, the Cardinals, and the Phoenix Suns.
Eastern Washington has Washington, Washington State, the Seahawks, Gonzaga, but not the Super Sonics any more.

Montana and Montana State compete with each other as peer rivals.
North Dakota has to compete for air time with NDSU as a peer rival.

The dominance of UO/OSU/Trailblazers here in Portland is obvious if you bother to look at the so-called regional newspaper, The Oregonian. They totally ignore PSU. But there's competition in TV. Result: we have 9 games televised this fall. Our PR people deserve a medal for getting those contracts.

frinq wrote:The dominance of UO/OSU/Trailblazers here in Portland is obvious if you bother to look at the so-called regional newspaper, The Oregonian. They totally ignore PSU. But there's competition in TV. Result: we have 9 games televised this fall. Our PR people deserve a medal for getting those contracts.

I have looked at the Oregonian on a few occasions and drew some of my conclusions about Oregon, Oregon State, te Trailblazers, and Portland being given a lot more print than Portland State (actually, I couldn't find any print on Portland State when I looked).

This is very similar to the main Salt Lake papers (Tribune and Deseret News). The Deseret News, for example, lists on the main sports header:

Jazz and NBA, BYU, Utah, Utah State, High School, Scores and Stats, and More Sports. Under More Sports, you find links to articles on: On TV, NFL, MLB, Bees, Grizzlies, UVU, WSU, SUU, and Sports Wire, in that order.

I think that conveys an idea of the pecking order in the Salt Lake area when it comes to sports. High School on the top line, but Weber State and SUU are buried under More Sports underneath NFL and MLB, the AAA Bees, the hockey team, and UVU.

Mike Johnson wrote: I would suspect that is common in the Big Sky--Oregon, Utah, Washington, California, Colorado, Arizona, and Idaho all have that dynamic. It is the difference in terms of being the big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond.

Portland State has to contend with Oregon, Oregon State, Portland, and the Portland Trailblazers.
Weber State have to contend with Utah, BYU, Utah State, and the Utah Jazz.
Sacramento State has to contend with California, Stanford, the 49-ers and the Raiders, and the Sacramento Kings.
Northern Colorado has to contend with Colorado, Colorado State, the Broncos, Denver, and the Denver Nuggets.
Idaho State has Boise State and Idaho.
Northern Arizona has Arizona, Arizona State, the Cardinals, and the Phoenix Suns.
Eastern Washington has Washington, Washington State, the Seahawks, Gonzaga, but not the Super Sonics any more.

Montana and Montana State compete with each other as peer rivals.
North Dakota has to compete for air time with NDSU as a peer rival.