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2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:46 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
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2012 The Sports Network FCS Preseason All-America Team

First Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Brad Sorensen Southern Utah QB Sr 6-5 225
Shakir Bell Indiana State RB Jr 5-7 185
Timothy Flanders Sam Houston State RB Jr 5-9 210
Terrance West Towson RB So 5-11 222
Eric Breitenstein Wofford FB Sr 5-11 225
Nicholas Edwards Eastern Washington WR Sr 6-3 200
Aaron Mellette Elon WR Sr 6-4 212
Ryan Spadola Lehigh WR Sr 6-3 205
Colin Anderson Furman TE Sr 6-4 231
Aaron Adams Eastern Kentucky T Sr 6-6 290
Blake Matthews Norfolk State T Sr 6-4 315
Malcolm Boyd Liberty G Sr 6-4 280
Earl Watford James Madison G Sr 6-4 290
Gavin Farr Southern Utah C Jr 6-3 300
Richard Sincere Sam Houston State AP Jr 5-10 180
Zach Brown Portland State PK Sr 6-1 200
Kevin Fogg Liberty KR Sr 5-10 175

First Team - Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Ben Obaseki Indiana State DE Sr 6-3 235
Blake Olijaro San Diego DE Jr 6-5 250
Zach Minter Montana State DT Sr 6-1 285
Brent Russell Georgia Southern DT Sr 6-2 291
Matt Evans New Hampshire LB Sr 6-0 219
Jeremy Kimbrough Appalachian State LB Sr 5-11 238
Blake Pfeifer SE Missouri State LB Jr 6-1 225
Keith Pough Howard LB Sr 6-3 235
Demetrius McCray Appalachian State CB Sr 6-0 185
Marcus Williams North Dakota State CB Jr 5-11 190
Kejuan Riley Alabama State S Sr 6-2 208
Darnell Taylor Sam Houston State S Sr 6-0 195
Jonathan Plisco Old Dominion P Sr 6-0 220
Darius Carey McNeese State PR Sr 6-0 185

Second-Team Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Casey Brockman Murray State QB Sr 6-2 215
Jordan Brown Bryant RB Sr 5-9 185
Matt Denham Eastern Kentucky RB Sr 5-11 181
Andrew Pierce Delaware RB Jr 5-11 200
Kendall Gaskins Richmond FB Sr 6-1 228
Cordell Roberson Stephen F. Austin WR Sr 6-3 200
Rodrick Rumble Idaho State WR Sr 6-2 201
Norman White Villanova WR Sr 6-4 210
Kyle Juszczyk Harvard TE Sr 6-3 240
Evan Conrad SE Missouri State T Sr 6-3 305
Alec Savoie McNeese State T Sr 6-7 332
Chris Howley Maine G Sr 6-3 300
Danny Kistler Montana G Jr 6-8 315
Mike Sellers The Citadel C Jr 6-0 275
Gralyn Crawford Stephen F. Austin AP Sr 5-11 175
Tyler Sievertsen Northern Iowa PK Jr 6-2 185
Fabian Truss Samford KR Jr 5-9 180

Second-Team Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Willie Jefferson Stephen F. Austin DE Sr 6-6 230
Joseph LeBeau Jackson State DE Sr 6-1 245
J.T. Cleveland Sam Houston State DT Sr 6-0 290
Cody Larsen Southern Utah DT Sr 6-4 272
Clarence Bumpas Northern Colorado LB Sr 6-2 244
Wes Dothard Chattanooga LB Jr 6-1 235
Jody Owens Montana State LB Sr 6-0 221
Alvin Scioneaux Wofford LB Sr 6-2 214
Charles James Charleston Southern CB Sr 5-10 175
B.W. Webb William & Mary CB Sr 5-11 175
Malcolm Bronson McNeese State S Sr 5-11 192
Serge Kona Duquesne S Sr 5-10 215
Patrick Murray Fordham P Sr 5-7 160
Darius Drummond South Carolina State PR Jr 5-11 175

Third-Team Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
DeNarius McGhee Montana State QB Jr 5-11 213
Jamaine Cook Youngstown State RB Sr 5-9 205
Washaun Ealey Jacksonville State RB Sr 5-11 215
Miguel Maysonet Stony Brook RB Sr 5-10 205
Jordan Neukirch Illinois State FB Jr 6-2 235
Lanny Funsten Davidson WR Sr 6-2 185
Brandon Kaufman Eastern Washington WR Jr 6-5 215
Tyrone Walker Illinois State WR Sr 5-11 200
David Duran Coastal Carolina TE Sr 6-5 250
Patrick Ford Eastern Kentucky T Sr 6-6 306
Terren Jones Alabama State T Sr 6-7 320
Ricky Archer New Hampshire G Jr 6-2 280
Zach Brackus Southern Utah G Sr 6-4 315
Ray Wilburn UC Davis C Sr 6-2 280
Dae'Quan Scott James Madison AP Jr 5-9 190
Cameron Yaw Samford PK Sr 5-11 182
Jordan Wells SE Louisiana KR So 5-11 195

Third-Team Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Frank Beltre Towson DE Sr 6-3 245
Joshua Williams Chattanooga DE Sr 6-3 235
Chris Burnette Old Dominion DT Sr 6-4 290
Caraun Reid Princeton DT Sr 6-2 290
Seth Allison Central Arkansas LB Sr 5-11 198
Aaron Archie Indiana State LB Sr 6-0 235
Stephon Robertson James Madison LB Jr 5-11 220
Tyler Starr South Dakota LB Jr 6-5 236
Jeremy Moore Georgetown CB Sr 5-11 175
Daxton Swanson Sam Houston State CB Jr 5-11 185
Jordan Dangerfield Towson S Sr 5-11 185
Jestin Love Central Arkansas S Jr 6-0 204
Sam Martin Appalachian State P Sr 6-1 205
Sam Hoekstra San Diego PR Jr 5-10 180

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:39 am
by AZGrizFan
How are they going to explain Montana winning the BSC with only ONE player on 2nd team? :coffee:

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:03 am
by 93henfan
Preseason anything is pointless. I wonder if the two freshman Kentucky basketball players from the 2011-12 season that were drafted first and second in the 2012 NBA draft made the 2011-12 Preseason All-American teams?

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:56 am
by grizcountry420
Big game McGhee 3rd team. Hmm.......................

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:39 am
by Skjellyfetti
93henfan wrote:Preseason anything is pointless. I wonder if the two freshman Kentucky basketball players from the 2011-12 season that were drafted first and second in the 2012 NBA draft made the 2011-12 Preseason All-American teams?
Anthony Davis was on most Preseason All American lists. Kidd-Gilchrist was on some but not all of the Preseason lists.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:44 am
by 93henfan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
93henfan wrote:Preseason anything is pointless. I wonder if the two freshman Kentucky basketball players from the 2011-12 season that were drafted first and second in the 2012 NBA draft made the 2011-12 Preseason All-American teams?
Anthony Davis was on most Preseason All American lists. Kidd-Gilchrist was on some but not all of the Preseason lists.
If they weren't both first team on every list then I maintain my point.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:39 pm
by oceanvue22
Kidd-Gilchrist was not even close to being the second best player in college basketball, I'm not surprised at all the Flanders from SHSU is first team but I would have thought Zach Bauman NAU would have been somewhere in the discussion too

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:59 pm
by DJnVa
93henfan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Anthony Davis was on most Preseason All American lists. Kidd-Gilchrist was on some but not all of the Preseason lists.
If they weren't both first team on every list then I maintain my point.

You understand why players that may be first team All-American or something similiar aren't necessarily the first player drafted right? And there are real, logical reasons for that?

Did you think if Tim Tebow went pro immediately after winning the Heisman he should have been the first pick?

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:56 pm
by SuperHornet
AZGrizFan wrote:How are they going to explain Montana winning the BSC with only ONE player on 2nd team? :coffee:
It's a team game. You don't necessarily need stars (particularly if they are ball hogs like Moss) to win. If stars have good chemistry, they'll help, but if they play for themselves, they'll tear the team down.

(Besides, Montana will have some first-teamers AFTER the season, when it counts, I'm sure....)

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:21 pm
by grizzaholic
SuperHornet wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:How are they going to explain Montana winning the BSC with only ONE player on 2nd team? :coffee:
It's a team game. You don't necessarily need stars to win.

(Besides, Montana will have some first-teamers AFTER the season, when it counts, I'm sure....)

good post

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:27 pm
by GoAgs72
Two All-Americans for San Diego and only one for UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sac State combined?

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:14 am
by uofmman1122
I agree it's not that big of a deal, and most of it looks solid enough. I'm even okay with McGhee up there.

However, Jordan Tripp not being on here anywhere is a god damned travesty. :coffee:

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:04 am
by dal4018
DJnVa wrote:
93henfan wrote:
If they weren't both first team on every list then I maintain my point.

You understand why players that may be first team All-American or something similiar aren't necessarily the first player drafted right? And there are real, logical reasons for that?

Did you think if Tim Tebow went pro immediately after winning the Heisman he should have been the first pick?
Hell no Tebow was horrible as a college QB he was exposed as a weak thrower in practice when pro scouts came to Gainsville and that was on a good day!!!!!!

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:07 am
by dal4018
93henfan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Anthony Davis was on most Preseason All American lists. Kidd-Gilchrist was on some but not all of the Preseason lists.
If they weren't both first team on every list then I maintain my point.
And to back that up it was a shock that Gilchrist was taken as the no.2 pick in the current draft by Charlotte.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:53 am
by frinq
I'm not surprised our PK Zach Brown is on the First Team list. Based on his record he's got to be one of the top three kickers in the country. We didn't have any others, but what the hell, as you say it's a team game. All we have to do is get to the forty hard line and Brown will do the rest. :coffee:

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:02 pm
by oceanvue22
dal4018 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
If they weren't both first team on every list then I maintain my point.
And to back that up it was a shock that Gilchrist was taken as the no.2 pick in the current draft by Charlotte.
He's not even 6'6 in his stocking feet with a poor outside shot. I know he's been compared to Iguodola but I see him as more of a Corey Maggette. We'll see how it pans out for Jordan

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:17 pm
by DJnVa
I'm thinking an ODU offensive player or two should have made one of the teams...

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:39 pm
by Steamin' Cleveland
The "problem" with ODU's offense is that so many players touch the ball, it's difficult for any one player to put up huge stats. I really wouldn't be surprised to see heinickes name on one of these lists if he plays at the exact same level as last year. 25tds and 1int in 9 games speaks for itself.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:01 pm
by SACCAT
uofmman1122 wrote:I agree it's not that big of a deal, and most of it looks solid enough. I'm even okay with McGhee up there.

However, Jordan Tripp not being on here anywhere is a god damned travesty. :coffee:
First off I want you to know how much it truly pains me to say this,...O.K. here goes

I have to agree with you (god I'm going to be sick). Tripp should defiantly be on there.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:02 pm
by SUUThunder
Congrats All-American selections. Looking forward to see what kind of impacts these players can make this season.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:54 am
by Mvemjsunpx
SACCAT wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:I agree it's not that big of a deal, and most of it looks solid enough. I'm even okay with McGhee up there.

However, Jordan Tripp not being on here anywhere is a god damned travesty. :coffee:
First off I want you to know how much it truly pains me to say this,...O.K. here goes

I have to agree with you (god I'm going to be sick). Tripp should defiantly be on there.
Coming off a big injury, though… it isn't surprising that he's not.


And I agree that Zach Bauman should definitely be on the list. He averaged 162 total YPG (130 rush) last year despite a mediocre O-Line.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:55 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Coming off injury it is not shocking Tripp isn't on there. I have him rated in my top 20 at his position but there are so many good LBs that who do you take off?

Here is a list of Big Sky LB names and I challenge you to tell me exactly who you take off for him? I think he deserves 1st or 2nd team All-Big Sky based on talent but for a man up one man must come down. I can't pick which man should come down.

Kennith Jackson, Cal Poly, Sr., 6-0, 230
Zach Johnson, Eastern Washington, Sr., 6-1, 225
Jody Owens, Montana State, Sr., 6-0, 218
Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Jr., 6-2, 244
Anthony Morales, Weber State, Jr., 6-0, 230
Chad Hansen, Southern Utah, Jr., 6-3, 245
Ian Sluss, Portland State, Sr., 6-0, 225
Joel Sisler, Portland State, Sr., 6-2, 210

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:11 am
by uofmman1122
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Coming off injury it is not shocking Tripp isn't on there. I have him rated in my top 20 at his position but there are so many good LBs that who do you take off?

Here is a list of Big Sky LB names and I challenge you to tell me exactly who you take off for him? I think he deserves 1st or 2nd team All-Big Sky based on talent but for a man up one man must come down. I can't pick which man should come down.

Kennith Jackson, Cal Poly, Sr., 6-0, 230
Zach Johnson, Eastern Washington, Sr., 6-1, 225
Jody Owens, Montana State, Sr., 6-0, 218
Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Jr., 6-2, 244
Anthony Morales, Weber State, Jr., 6-0, 230
Chad Hansen, Southern Utah, Jr., 6-3, 245
Ian Sluss, Portland State, Sr., 6-0, 225
Joel Sisler, Portland State, Sr., 6-2, 210
Honestly, that's pretty easy.

I'd say he's better than everyone except maybe Bumpas.

I doubt there's a faster LB in the big sky, and I think he'll end up 1st team all big sky at the end.

But hey, I'm pretty biased, so... ;)

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:57 am
by SACCAT
uofmman1122 wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Coming off injury it is not shocking Tripp isn't on there. I have him rated in my top 20 at his position but there are so many good LBs that who do you take off?

Here is a list of Big Sky LB names and I challenge you to tell me exactly who you take off for him? I think he deserves 1st or 2nd team All-Big Sky based on talent but for a man up one man must come down. I can't pick which man should come down.

Kennith Jackson, Cal Poly, Sr., 6-0, 230
Zach Johnson, Eastern Washington, Sr., 6-1, 225
Jody Owens, Montana State, Sr., 6-0, 218
Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Jr., 6-2, 244
Anthony Morales, Weber State, Jr., 6-0, 230
Chad Hansen, Southern Utah, Jr., 6-3, 245
Ian Sluss, Portland State, Sr., 6-0, 225
Joel Sisler, Portland State, Sr., 6-2, 210
Honestly, that's pretty easy.

I'd say he's better than everyone except maybe Bumpas.


I doubt there's a faster LB in the big sky, and I think he'll end up 1st team all big sky at the end.

But hey, I'm pretty biased, so... ;)
I would say Owens is better AND faster. But I am also biased.

Re: 2012 TSN Preseason All-America Teams

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:22 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
uofmman1122 wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Coming off injury it is not shocking Tripp isn't on there. I have him rated in my top 20 at his position but there are so many good LBs that who do you take off?

Here is a list of Big Sky LB names and I challenge you to tell me exactly who you take off for him? I think he deserves 1st or 2nd team All-Big Sky based on talent but for a man up one man must come down. I can't pick which man should come down.

Kennith Jackson, Cal Poly, Sr., 6-0, 230
Zach Johnson, Eastern Washington, Sr., 6-1, 225
Jody Owens, Montana State, Sr., 6-0, 218
Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Jr., 6-2, 244
Anthony Morales, Weber State, Jr., 6-0, 230
Chad Hansen, Southern Utah, Jr., 6-3, 245
Ian Sluss, Portland State, Sr., 6-0, 225
Joel Sisler, Portland State, Sr., 6-2, 210
Honestly, that's pretty easy.

I'd say he's better than everyone except maybe Bumpas.

I doubt there's a faster LB in the big sky, and I think he'll end up 1st team all big sky at the end.

But hey, I'm pretty biased, so... ;)
I think fans on these message boards need to wait for opponents to say the same thing or else the comments always look biased. Tripp is good but we need to see what he does coming off an injury. He's definitely good but every school says "we wouldn't trade our guy for anyone else" because you feel loyal to them. From my evals of the Big Sky Tripp is probably the 3rd or 4th most talented LB but he's coming back in a year where the league is loaded with good LBs.

For example, did you see the SEC did a preseason 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team? The Big Sky is so loaded because of the new teams that I think there would be good players left off a 3rd team All-Big Sky at this level. In fact, I think there are at least 15-17 LBs in the Big Sky who have all-conference talent and would be all-conference in half the other leagues around the country. Tripp would be 1st team in at least 7 other conferences. The only leagues I would not put him 1st team in are the SoCon, Big Sky, CAA, and maybe Missouri Valley this year. He's a good player who just happens to be in a loaded league.