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Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:44 pm
by Cap'n Cat
You're probably thinking SWAC and SoCon right off the bat, I know :mrgreen: , but where is it easiest in our world to get in and to get out, if you ever do?

Thinkin' myself that the Texas and Luzianne schools got some pretty loose standards. An' I'm also thinkin' one does not need MENSA paperwork to do a couple years at Youngstown State or South Dakota.

Any other thoughts?


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Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:45 pm
by dbackjon
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Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:34 pm
by ATrain
Liberty is pretty easy to get into...graduating, not so much.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:36 pm
by AZGrizFan
ATrain wrote:Liberty is pretty easy to get into...graduating, not so much.
Do you have to convert to graduate? :lol: :lol:

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:10 pm
by Cap'n Cat
ATrain wrote:Liberty is pretty easy to get into...graduating, not so much.

The SWAC in WASP clothing.

:roll:

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:15 pm
by slycat
Texas Sts standards are higher then SHSU or SFA but thats not saying to much. Then again those standards let some hot loose girls in the school.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:57 pm
by CatMom
TxSt standards are actually pretty high next to most of the colleges in TX and is higher and/or equal to a number of the FBS schools also.

top 10% of your HS class - no minimum requirement
top 25% ACT 20 SAT 920
top 50 % ACT 22 SAT 1010

If you really want to see the TX standards, I found this:

http://www.galenaparkisd.com/Research/d ... lleges.pdf

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:09 pm
by Col Hogan
CatMom wrote:TxSt standards are actually pretty high next to most of the colleges in TX and is higher and/or equal to a number of the FBS schools also.

top 10% of your HS class - no minimum requirement
top 25% ACT 20 SAT 920
top 50 % ACT 22 SAT 1010

If you really want to see the TX standards, I found this:

http://www.galenaparkisd.com/Research/d ... lleges.pdf
Problem with those standards (I live in TX for a while) is that a kid in the top 10% of a high school class in the Valley and a kid in the top 10% of a high school class in San Marcos or Round Rock or the North side of San Antonio are not equals...by any stretch of the imagination...yet they get equal treatment in admissions into Texas colleges and universities...

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:30 pm
by CatMom
I agree Col. But once in TxSt you had better prove yourself. My daughter taught a couple semesters and she was not beyond handing out failing grades, and she did too. Even to athletes. She had a number of the football players in her classes and they were usually amongst the better students. She did not play favorites either.

Interesting you mentioned Round Rock. My kids went to RRISD schools.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:37 pm
by Col Hogan
CatMom wrote:I agree Col. But once in TxSt you had better prove yourself. My daughter taught a couple semesters and she was not beyond handing out failing grades, and she did too. Even to athletes. She had a number of the football players in her classes and they were usually amongst the better students. She did not play favorites either.

Interesting you mentioned Round Rock. My kids went to RRISD schools.
So did mine...that's where I lived from 99 - 2002

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:42 pm
by CatMom
OT - for me and Col

McNeil
son class of 1995
daughter class of 1997

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:45 pm
by Col Hogan
Son - RRSHS - Class of 00
Daughter - Three years at Stony Point HS, then we transfered to VA

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:11 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
I don't know how good or bad their academic departments are, but I believe Sac State is the only Big Sky Conference school to not offer any doctoral programs.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:36 am
by Appaholic
Ga Suth'rn.......and at El Cid, all you apparantly need are knee pads, chap stik and the ability to trace your lineage to one of the soldiers who ran away with Beauregard as Sherman approached......

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:41 am
by dbackjon
Mvemjsunpx wrote:I don't know how good or bad their academic departments are, but I believe Sac State is the only Big Sky Conference school to not offer any doctoral programs.

Sac State offers Doctorate Degrees in Education and History

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:07 pm
by Col Hogan
dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:I don't know how good or bad their academic departments are, but I believe Sac State is the only Big Sky Conference school to not offer any doctoral programs.

Sac State offers Doctorate Degrees in Education and History
And I don't think you can judge the academic abilities of a particular institution just on it's level of degree awarding ability...

Some schools are actually prohibited from going to the doctorate level by local or state edits...based on the original intent of the institution when it started...

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:09 pm
by Appaholic
Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Sac State offers Doctorate Degrees in Education and History
And I don't think you can judge the academic abilities of a particular institution just on it's level of degree awarding ability...

Some schools are actually prohibited from going to the doctorate level by local or state edits...based on the original intent of the institution when it started...
And the Citadel and Georgia Southern still suck.....fyi....

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:32 am
by Mvemjsunpx
Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Sac State offers Doctorate Degrees in Education and History
And I don't think you can judge the academic abilities of a particular institution just on it's level of degree awarding ability...

Some schools are actually prohibited from going to the doctorate level by local or state edits...based on the original intent of the institution when it started...

Yeah, I guess my info was a little outdated. The California legislature allowed the Cal States to offer independent doctorates starting in 2007.
And I don't think you can judge the academic abilities of a particular institution just on it's level of degree awarding ability...
No, of course not, but it definitely affects the academic reputation. Reputation is all most people unfortunately seem to care about in university evaluation these days anyway.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:39 am
by slycat
Col Hogan wrote:
CatMom wrote:TxSt standards are actually pretty high next to most of the colleges in TX and is higher and/or equal to a number of the FBS schools also.

top 10% of your HS class - no minimum requirement
top 25% ACT 20 SAT 920
top 50 % ACT 22 SAT 1010

If you really want to see the TX standards, I found this:

http://www.galenaparkisd.com/Research/d ... lleges.pdf
Problem with those standards (I live in TX for a while) is that a kid in the top 10% of a high school class in the Valley and a kid in the top 10% of a high school class in San Marcos or Round Rock or the North side of San Antonio are not equals...by any stretch of the imagination...yet they get equal treatment in admissions into Texas colleges and universities...
UT is getting upset with the rule. They say they are unable to offer enough spots to students who aren't in the top 10% and qualify.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:05 pm
by travelinman67
Mvemjsunpx wrote:I don't know how good or bad their academic departments are, but I believe Sac State is the only Big Sky Conference school to not offer any doctoral programs.
...you're talking about Sacramento. :roll:

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:35 pm
by SUUTbird
Appaholic wrote:Ga Suth'rn.......and at El Cid, all you apparantly need are knee pads, chap stik and the ability to trace your lineage to one of the soldiers who ran away with Beauregard as Sherman approached......
Is this another one of those "the south shall rise again" things? :lol:. And well i agree with Ga Southern the Citadel, definetly not. Seriously show some respect for the guys in uniform who will eventually be helping to protect your ass. I only say this because i have two brothers in the army and i respect all military personel.

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:02 am
by bench
SUUTbird wrote:
Appaholic wrote:Ga Suth'rn.......and at El Cid, all you apparantly need are knee pads, chap stik and the ability to trace your lineage to one of the soldiers who ran away with Beauregard as Sherman approached......
Is this another one of those "the south shall rise again" things? :lol:. And well i agree with Ga Southern the Citadel, definetly not. Seriously show some respect for the guys in uniform who will eventually be helping to protect your ass. I only say this because i have two brothers in the army and i respect all military personel.
Then you don't need to worry about respecting anyone from The Citadel, 'cause they ain't really military personnel. Sure, they wear a uniform, but their "alternate" unis tend to be much more exotic

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:05 am
by OL FU
Cap'n Cat wrote:You're probably thinking SWAC and SoCon right off the bat, I know :mrgreen: , but where is it easiest in our world to get in and to get out, if you ever do?

Thinkin' myself that the Texas and Luzianne schools got some pretty loose standards. An' I'm also thinkin' one does not need MENSA paperwork to do a couple years at Youngstown State or South Dakota.

Any other thoughts?


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I'm thinking with Furman, Davidson, Wofford, Elon I will put the SoCon up against the MVC any day of the week :P ;)

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:18 am
by dbackjon
Soulman tells me that they let ANYONE into Furman...

Re: Where Are The Worst Academics In FCS?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:03 am
by OL FU
dbackjon wrote:Soulman tells me that they let ANYONE into Furman...
Soulman attended the institution generally referred to as Furman's little sister
:D

and without Furman's support for SoCon membership would have probably joined the Big South :lol:


Sorry Mark