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Allegations that ASU football players sexually assaulted students in separate incidents in 2011.

ASU actions under scrutiny

Peacock: 'We still have work to do'

There are 3 or 4 other articles at the web site.

Chancellor Cheerleader better get his sheet together on this.

I'm certainly not taking up for a bunch of possible rapists, but answer me this....if these charges were brought to the Watauga County Sherriff's department, the DA did not pursue because of "lack of evidence", how can the ASU conduct board find evidence the Sherriff can't? Seems like these guys should be going through the court system if they are truly guilty with a jury to determine whether there is enough evidence to convict.

According to the ASU Code of Student Conduct, a student may request that a member of a conduct board be excluded from the conduct board hearing. “Such challenges shall be made immediately after the introduction of members of the conduct board and shall require justification,” the code states.

During the conduct board hearings, both the accused students and the persons bringing an allegation have the opportunity to cross-examine each other's witnesses, according to the code.

The code defines sex offenses as forcible or non-consensual sex acts directed against another person, including circumstances in which “the victim is incapable of giving consent, which can include but not limited to the use of alcohol and/or other drugs.”

Under the code, the standard of proof used in a conduct board hearing is “a preponderance of evidence.” “This standard is defined as the weight of the evidence that leads the conduct board to believe that the alleged misconduct is more probable to have been committed than not,” the code states. In other words, more than 50 percent of the evidence must point to a violation having occurred for a student to be found responsible.

If these guys did it then they have no business on campus and the suspensions should be upheld. We're better than this.

Before the Penn State scandal, this would have looked like an outrage. Are we de-sensitized now?

rebla 49er wrote:Before the Penn State scandal, this would have looked like an outrage. Are we de-sensitized now?

No, it's still an outrage.

ASU = Montana East.

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Low blow, AZ.

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Getting ugly? Did Appaholic just visit?

A similar deal happend at UOP a few years back involving the hoops teams. Apparently several members of the boys team gang-raped a member of the girls team. She ended up leaving the school. The school's conduct board ultimately decided that one player would be expelled and a few others were suspended. The expelled one ended up at another FBS school. This wasn't good enough for her, so she sued the school. Made major headlines, but ultimately went nowhere.

Schools have policies in place, and if they can show that the policies are adequate and that they were followed when an incident happens, the schools are generally fine, legally. If a link of that chain fails, though, watch out. Just hope that when everything checks out, though, you don't have a wuss in charge who caves at even the threat of a suit.

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Not really, AZ. We've got 3 NCs

It's always the little things, seemingly innocuous, that come back to bite yah in the arse. We're heading past six months with no real resolution, (several) major screw ups from the conduct board, and still more than six months out from a 'physical evidence' report on criminal charges. No one is stepping up and saying, "This will be made right" or "I am responsible for this" or "These changes will be made to prevent X, Y and Z in the future"

The best we can get: "We still have work to do" doesn't instill tremendous faith in me.

Regardless of guilt or innocence, process and failures, it makes everyone involved look like a rube (that's being kind) and is starting to piss me off.

And here I thought this thread was about the preponderence of ugly mountain folk cross breeding inside mud huts around ASU.

ASUG8 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Low blow, AZ.

Now where did I put my head shot .gif.

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Aho Old Guy wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Not really, AZ. We've got 3 NCs

Burn.

There's gonna be a LOT of parole officers sweating out the Griz/ASU game on 9/8.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Aho Old Guy wrote:
Not really, AZ. We've got 3 NCs

Burn.

There's gonna be a LOT of parole officers sweating out the Griz/ASU game on 9/8.

I will not get arrested so I don't have to worry about jail time....You, on the other hand, with your BL addiction, might want to worry about it.

Getting ugly? Things have been ugly in Boone for a long time.

Sssooo....UM is set on receiving some FCS transfers sooner rather than later?

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Getting ugly? Things have been ugly in Boone for a long time.

Maybe your Iggles will earn a trip back to Boone for another thumping in the next couple of decades.

Jon can bring his LumberJills back for one too.

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Getting ugly? Things have been ugly in Boone for a long time.

ASUG8 wrote:

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Getting ugly? Things have been ugly in Boone for a long time.

Maybe your Iggles will earn a trip back to Boone for another thumping in the next couple of decades.

Jon can bring his LumberJills back for one too.

That would be fun, but it's your turn to come out here. Thumping...

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:

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Aho Old Guy wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:ASU = Montana East.

Not really, AZ. We've got 3 NCs

And an 0-2 record against Montana.

kemajic wrote:

Aho Old Guy wrote:
Not really, AZ. We've got 3 NCs

And an 0-2 record against Montana.

Don't worry, I'm sure someday their record against the Griz will resemble the Griz' record in the NC game.

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Getting ugly? Things have been ugly in Boone for a long time.