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Eliminated in mid-October:

-Average at best play from QB's (our 2012 QB ain't on the current roster)
-Underachieving wideouts
-Biggest single unit disappointment in all of FCS from our OL.
-Zero pass rush to speak of
-The most predictable team on the planet
-Visible lack of heart from players
-Mutinous rumors swirling from the locker room

All leads up to 4-4 and our best hope now is a winning season.

Don't worry, Danny O'Brien is looking to transfer.

andy7171 wrote:Don't worry, Danny O'Brien is looking to transfer.

Believe me, he's already on the radar.

Phillies, Eagles, Blue Hens.

Don't worry, my kid's soccer team is 5-1 and in prime position for the playoffs. I'm hitching my wagon to that bandwagon!!! Go Son!!!!

bluehenbillk wrote:Eliminated in mid-October:

-Average at best play from QB's (our 2012 QB ain't on the current roster)
-Underachieving wideouts
-Biggest single unit disappointment in all of FCS from our OL.
-Zero pass rush to speak of
-The most predictable team on the planet
-Visible lack of heart from players
-Mutinous rumors swirling from the locker room

All leads up to 4-4 and our best hope now is a winning season.

Now that the playoffs have been expanded and 7-4 might be good enough to get in, the Hens have to schedule smarter. No more FBS and D-II. A 4-4 conference record might be good enough if the OOC schedule didn't have a D-II game on it.

BlueHen86 wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:Eliminated in mid-October:

-Average at best play from QB's (our 2012 QB ain't on the current roster)
-Underachieving wideouts
-Biggest single unit disappointment in all of FCS from our OL.
-Zero pass rush to speak of
-The most predictable team on the planet
-Visible lack of heart from players
-Mutinous rumors swirling from the locker room

All leads up to 4-4 and our best hope now is a winning season.

Now that the playoffs have been expanded and 7-4 might be good enough to get in, the Hens have to schedule smarter. No more FBS and D-II. A 4-4 conference record might be good enough if the OOC schedule didn't have a D-II game on it.

I believe every team worth winning a championship should stop scheduling D2/NAIA/D3 teams.

youngterrier wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Now that the playoffs have been expanded and 7-4 might be good enough to get in, the Hens have to schedule smarter. No more FBS and D-II. A 4-4 conference record might be good enough if the OOC schedule didn't have a D-II game on it.

I believe every team worth winning a championship should stop scheduling D2/NAIA/D3 teams.

So what will it take to get Keeler gone?

Certainly, the University won't remove him. He's under contract for six or seven more years, and as the highest paid coach in FCS, I'm sure the buyout would be ugly.

If I'm an FBS team in dire need of a coach, I see a guy who is maddeningly inconsistent (two mediocre/bad years for every good one) and whose teams have a tendency to choke epically at the end, save for 2003 against Colgate.

So I think we're stuck with this guy. He's too vain to just walk away, and who would leave $400K/year on the table anyway?

I guess we'll just have to pretend we enjoy our quarterback in the shotgun on 3rd and 1, handing off to a single back seven yards deep who gets half a yard. What a fucking blast. UD might be three additional season tickets light in Section C, Row D next year if they don't seriously massage my balls this offseason and make me happy. I'm watching.

93henfan wrote:So what will it take to get Keeler gone?

Certainly, the University won't remove him. He's under contract for six or seven more years, and as the highest paid coach in FCS, I'm sure the buyout would be ugly.

If I'm an FBS team in dire need of a coach, I see a guy who is maddeningly inconsistent (two mediocre/bad years for every good one) and whose teams have a tendency to choke epically at the end, save for 2003 against Colgate.

So I think we're stuck with this guy. He's too vain to just walk away, and who would leave $400K/year on the table anyway?

I guess we'll just have to pretend we enjoy our quarterback in the shotgun on 3rd and 1, handing off to a single back seven yards deep who gets half a yard. What a fucking blast. UD might be three additional season tickets light in Section C, Row D next year if they don't seriously massage my balls this offseason and make me happy. I'm watching.

You're closer to Towson than Newark now, right? I'm sure they have plenty of season tix available.

Grizalltheway wrote:

93henfan wrote:So what will it take to get Keeler gone?

Certainly, the University won't remove him. He's under contract for six or seven more years, and as the highest paid coach in FCS, I'm sure the buyout would be ugly.

If I'm an FBS team in dire need of a coach, I see a guy who is maddeningly inconsistent (two mediocre/bad years for every good one) and whose teams have a tendency to choke epically at the end, save for 2003 against Colgate.

So I think we're stuck with this guy. He's too vain to just walk away, and who would leave $400K/year on the table anyway?

I guess we'll just have to pretend we enjoy our quarterback in the shotgun on 3rd and 1, handing off to a single back seven yards deep who gets half a yard. What a fucking blast. UD might be three additional season tickets light in Section C, Row D next year if they don't seriously massage my balls this offseason and make me happy. I'm watching.

You're closer to Towson than Newark now, right? I'm sure they have plenty of season tix available.

I told you Keeler has two bad seasons for every one good one.

The ratio at Towson is thirty to one.

93henfan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
You're closer to Towson than Newark now, right? I'm sure they have plenty of season tix available.

I told you Keeler has two bad seasons for every one good one.

The ratio at Towson is thirty to one.

Can't argue with that.

93henfan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
You're closer to Towson than Newark now, right? I'm sure they have plenty of season tix available.

I told you Keeler has two bad seasons for every one good one.

The ratio at Towson is thirty to one.

I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

BlueHen86 wrote:

93henfan wrote:
I told you Keeler has two bad seasons for every one good one.

The ratio at Towson is thirty to one.

I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Now instead of 2 studs you just wait for the transfer

BlueHen86 wrote:

93henfan wrote:
I told you Keeler has two bad seasons for every one good one.

The ratio at Towson is thirty to one.

I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Keeler is tough on season ticket holders. We're there every week. If you only catch a game when it's convenient, then yeah, a nice playoff run every three years is great to hang your hat on. When you actually have to drag your ass to the stadium to watch slop 2/3 of the time, it sucks. Tubby and the Wing T would give you a helluva lot more entertainment than this shit we have to watch now.

youngterrier wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Now instead of 2 studs you just wait for the transfer

That's usually not a problem. The problem is that sometimes the transfer is a dud.

youngterrier wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Now instead of 2 studs you just wait for the transfer

Oh, you're going to see some transfers now, baby. Keeler was tired of being questioned about transfer QBs, so he took none this year to see how his homegrowns could do. Methinks it was a one year only experiment.

93henfan wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Keeler is tough on season ticket holders. We're there every week. If you only catch a game when it's convenient, then yeah, a nice playoff run every three years is great to hang your hat on. When you actually have to drag your ass to the stadium to watch slop 2/3 of the time, it sucks. Tubby and the Wing T would give you a helluva lot more entertainment than this shit we have to watch now.

I don't have season tickets, but I understand your point.

93henfan wrote:
If I'm an FBS team in dire need of a coach, I see a guy who is maddeningly inconsistent (two mediocre/bad years for every good one) and whose teams have a tendency to choke epically at the end, save for 2003 against Colgate.

In his defense, we were decided underdogs against Appy St in '07 - hard to choke as the clear underdogs.

93henfan wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
I think alot of schools would be happy with that, but we're spoiled. Tubby almost always fielded a competitive team. The Hens were a playoff threat almost every year under Raymond, but Tubby only had one championship game appearance and it was a loss. Keeler has been to the finals three times and won once, but his down years are really down.

I think I prefer Keeler though. The only way the Hens were going to win the NC under Raymond was if they had two stud QB's. Every year it seemed the Hens started strong with a great QB, but then by the time the playoffs started the QB was always banged up and no where near 100%,

Keeler is tough on season ticket holders. We're there every week. If you only catch a game when it's convenient, then yeah, a nice playoff run every three years is great to hang your hat on. When you actually have to drag your ass to the stadium to watch slop 2/3 of the time, it sucks. Tubby and the Wing T would give you a helluva lot more entertainment than this **** we have to watch now.

I agree with this - have to pay a lot more money to have season tix and you don't get any perks for having season tickets. Plenty of times when there are games that don't matter (like this year) and even for the ones that do, now there are plenty of seats availble for vastly lower amounts of money. Hard to justify having season tix.

At this point I think coaching staff changes are in order. The three most scrutinized will be the OC - Hofher, OL- Wrobo, and DL - Pettite.

There are some coaches at UD that just steal $$ - look at Monte Ross (hoops) & Jim Sherman (baseball). KC isn't going to be forced to go anywhere, but honestly, if he left to take a FBS job I would not feel bad.

Season tickets for next year - yea that's going to be a decision, we'll see.

bluehenbillk wrote:Season tickets for next year - yea that's going to be a decision, we'll see.

I think the way this season went, there are even more of us with this sentiment right now going into this offseason than there were that jumped ship last offseason with the mandatory donations.

If there was ever a time the AD had more pressure to do something, anything to throw a bone to fans, this is the offseason. Bernard Muir has between now and when invoices are mailed in the spring to stave off a real mass exodus.

I think status quo equals a season ticket base approaching 5,000 next season, and status quo or below is what you seem to get with these doofuses. It's a God-damned shame.

Don't get me wrong - I'll never stop going.

I've always had season tickets - 42 years - but would look potentially at buying individual games.

Things keeping season tickets going - well we have 16 of them, normally involves at least 3 cars, so it's a convenience of all sitting together & parking together is the #1 thing.

But, you pay an extra $300 to the UDAF this year, you see tickets going for less than the face value of the seats that you purchase (granted they are a section over or 25 rows higher) - not that those are bad seats.

Everyone has kids in our group too and as they get older & involved in playing sports themselves people miss a game here & there so, I guess we'll look at the schedule when it comes out & we'll look at the season ticket renewal info along with the UDAF stuff & make a decision as to what to do.

It'll be interesting - I see 2 outcomes 1) and this is honestly the one I think will happen - UD goes staus quo, nothing changes. and 2) they throw some more perks to STH's and/or reduce # of sections paying the donation.

Regardless of what happens there - the on-field product, ugh. We'll see how these last 3 games pan out but there needs to be changes - changes to the staff, changes to on-field philosophy, changes in player personnel.

Why would you need to take to trip to Crapsville? You are already there.