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Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:15 am
by jmufan
In the wake of the Southern/UAPB fight, I am wondering what would be considered the dirtiest rivalries in FCS football--the most personal fouls, roughing the passer calls, the dirty plays that weren't caught, late hits, etc...

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:22 am
by GannonFan
Which ones does DJ Bryant play in? :lol:

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:24 am
by Wildcat Ryan
Its not a rivalry, but the last few years of Weber/Montana have been pretty nasty on both sides

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:29 am
by andy7171
I seriously hated Liberty. Dirtiest MF'ers on the planet and then passed out jesus pamplets instead of shaking hands.
I understand they don't do this anymore, but still.
I remember my sophomore year, they had their pregame meal in the pressbox watching us have our Friday practice.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:41 am
by JmuSkinsfan
andy7171 wrote:I seriously hated Liberty. Dirtiest MF'ers on the planet and then passed out jesus pamplets instead of shaking hands.
I understand they don't do this anymore, but still.
I remember my sophomore year, they had their pregame meal in the pressbox watching us have our Friday practice.
Yeah, Liberty pisses me off.

I'd say that the CAA is relatively "respectful" of one another ... but I think JMU/UR and Delaware/JMU always get the most "hostile" ... but I doubt a fight would ever erupt ala UAPB

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:02 am
by lakesbison
UNI/NDSU UNI players are the biggest cheap shots ever. Bunch of thugs who talk.sh.t and.grab thier crotches and make.gestures.....and their coach allows it. 2 yeats ago they ran pur star.RB into the wall. Thugs period.

And the fans are getting nasty as well.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:06 am
by CAA Flagship
I will be interested to see if there is any spillover from last year's ODU/W&M game where there were a few skirmishes and exchange of words from the coaches in their press conferences.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:09 am
by JmuSkinsfan
CAA Flagship wrote:I will be interested to see if there is any spillover from last year's ODU/W&M game where there were a few skirmishes and exchange of words from the coaches in their press conferences.
I guarantee ODU/JMU will quickly heat up into one of the most intense in FCS

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:14 am
by WSUWaldo
The Idaho State vs. Weber State rivalry has been somewhat testy in the past. Even now the games between the two schools have fans, players, and coaches digging at each other. Even though Weber has thoroughly dominated its rival for the past 20 years. The Bengals always hope. Gotta give them that.

I do know that Montana State's crowd attacked Weber's players in the 1966 game. Yes, that was a long time ago, Weber and State fans are fairly cordial now, but I guess it was a different story 40 + years ago. Rivalries tend to change.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:28 am
by bluehenbillk
GannonFan wrote:Which ones does DJ Bryant play in? :lol:
Speaking of DJ Bryant, kudos to UMass this week. UMass had a DL ejected from the Delaware game last week for drawing a personal foul when he kicked a UD player. UMass has suspended the player from this week's Colonial Clash vs UNH as well for his actions.

Meanwhile, I'm assuming Bryant played against lowly 'Nova last week after throwing punches at 2 Maine players. People wonder why they refer to them as Mickey's Monkeys or the Dirty Dukes....

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:32 am
by DirtyDukes
bluehenbillk wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Which ones does DJ Bryant play in? :lol:
Speaking of DJ Bryant, kudos to UMass this week. UMass had a DL ejected from the Delaware game last week for drawing a personal foul when he kicked a UD player. UMass has suspended the player from this week's Colonial Clash vs UNH as well for his actions.

Meanwhile, I'm assuming Bryant played against lowly 'Nova last week after throwing punches at 2 Maine players. People wonder why they refer to them as Mickey's Monkeys or the Dirty Dukes....
I AM the team.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:35 am
by Darell1976
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Not a FCS rival but one of the dirtest in one of our hockey rivals was with Wisconsin. Where you have the police breaking up the fight.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:44 am
by andy7171
JmuSkinsfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:I will be interested to see if there is any spillover from last year's ODU/W&M game where there were a few skirmishes and exchange of words from the coaches in their press conferences.
I guarantee ODU/JMU will quickly heat up into one of the most intense in FCS
This.

Just wait for the ODU noobs to be introduced to the streamer crowd. :lol:

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:48 am
by JmuSkinsfan
andy7171 wrote:
JmuSkinsfan wrote:
I guarantee ODU/JMU will quickly heat up into one of the most intense in FCS
This.

Just wait for the ODU noobs to be introduced to the streamer crowd. :lol:
They may have a more "complete" looking stadium ... but there is no feeling quite as breathtaking as walking through the stands on the visitors (student section) side and having a massive, steep 13 story packed stands screaming down on you. As much as people crap on the disproportionality of JMU's new stadium, I love it. The students get the crappy old side that has character and tradition, and you get to stare up at the monstrosity on the other side.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:16 am
by mainejeff
UMass seems to bring out the worst in many that they play.......especially UNH, Maine and URI (and maybe Delaware?)

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:33 am
by GannonFan
mainejeff wrote:UMass seems to bring out the worst in many that they play.......especially UNH, Maine and URI (and maybe Delaware?)
UMass was dirty and then some back under Whipple and Brown - almost like it was taught. They were never that way before Whipple came in and they have lessened considerably since Brown left. You don't see anywhere close to the chippy play and trash talking they did during the Whipple heydays. Even the guy who pulled a DJ Bryant and kicked and punched a guy, resulting in him being thrown out of the UD game, was just an anamoly for them lately.

Odd enough, Maine has had years where they are just plaugued by personal fouls but I've never thought Maine was dirty - they were more dumb penalties than anything dirty.

In the CAA, it was really just UMass and DJ Bryant who would be clear dirty players.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:37 am
by jcmanson
JmuSkinsfan wrote:Yeah, Liberty pisses me off.
Why?

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:39 am
by 93henfan
bluehenbillk wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Which ones does DJ Bryant play in? :lol:
Speaking of DJ Bryant, kudos to UMass this week. UMass had a DL ejected from the Delaware game last week for drawing a personal foul when he kicked a UD player. UMass has suspended the player from this week's Colonial Clash vs UNH as well for his actions.

Meanwhile, I'm assuming Bryant played against lowly 'Nova last week after throwing punches at 2 Maine players. People wonder why they refer to them as Mickey's Monkeys or the Dirty Dukes....
Definite kudos. IIRC, that ejection occurred early in the second quarter, so he's missing 7 quarters of football. That was one big dude too.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:56 pm
by GannonFan
93henfan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:
Speaking of DJ Bryant, kudos to UMass this week. UMass had a DL ejected from the Delaware game last week for drawing a personal foul when he kicked a UD player. UMass has suspended the player from this week's Colonial Clash vs UNH as well for his actions.

Meanwhile, I'm assuming Bryant played against lowly 'Nova last week after throwing punches at 2 Maine players. People wonder why they refer to them as Mickey's Monkeys or the Dirty Dukes....
Definite kudos. IIRC, that ejection occurred early in the second quarter, so he's missing 7 quarters of football. That was one big dude too.
Hey, you throw a punch and you should do the time. Kudos to UMass for doing the right thing and not use the "well, it's an emotional game" and "he's really a great kid" or "he was provoked because someone hurt his feelings" defense. You wonder if Brown or Whipple would've done this but Morris is apparently a pretty standup kind of a coach. Good for him.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:20 pm
by GannonFan
Hey look, another punch thrown by a non-JMU player again results in a suspension. Michigan St's William Gholston threw a punch in the game against Michigan and he's been suspended by the conference for the following game.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -wolverine

Good quote from the kid too:
"I deeply regret momentarily losing my composure," Gholston said in his statement. " ... Coach [Mark] Dantonio regularly reminds us that actions have consequences, and I will be better prepared to handle these circumstances in the future. I look forward to my reinstatement."
:clap:

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:23 pm
by dal4018
jmufan wrote:In the wake of the Southern/UAPB fight, I am wondering what would be considered the dirtiest rivalries in FCS football--the most personal fouls, roughing the passer calls, the dirty plays that weren't caught, late hits, etc...
How about instate rivals Grambling v Southern they aren't the best of friends around the holidays in the Bayou Classic

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:24 pm
by tampajag
Southern/Jackson St. When the visiting coach makes statements about the safety of his players/fans, that speaks to the dirtiness of a rivalry. There's bad blood on the field and in the stands.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:27 pm
by dal4018
tampajag wrote:Southern/Jackson St. When the visiting coach makes statements about the safety of his players/fans, that speaks to the dirtiness of a rivalry. There's bad blood on the field and in the stands.
:o :o :o Didn't know it was that intense between these two schools when do they play?

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:32 pm
by tampajag
dal4018 wrote:
jmufan wrote:In the wake of the Southern/UAPB fight, I am wondering what would be considered the dirtiest rivalries in FCS football--the most personal fouls, roughing the passer calls, the dirty plays that weren't caught, late hits, etc...
How about instate rivals Grambling v Southern they aren't the best of friends around the holidays in the Bayou Classic
that rivalry is far from dirty. We don't like each other but other than one incident in 2000 the games are pretty clean.

Re: Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:36 pm
by dal4018
tampajag wrote:
dal4018 wrote: How about instate rivals Grambling v Southern they aren't the best of friends around the holidays in the Bayou Classic
that rivalry is far from dirty. We don't like each other but other than one incident in 2000 the games are pretty clean.
Okay thanks everybody keeps their tempers in check what happened that year in 2k?