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APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:59 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
Looking through the NCAA database, it appears Idaho State is getting one. Anyone willing to look to see if there are others?
http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/cVbnp9TaprRelease.jsp
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:18 pm
by Grizalltheway
Kind of redundant-they already have a self-imposed one.

Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:38 pm
by grizzaholic
Grizalltheway wrote:Kind of redundant-they already have a self-imposed one.

Shut up Vidav....oh. Sorry. I get you two confused.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:48 pm
by Grizalltheway
grizzaholic wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:Kind of redundant-they already have a self-imposed one.

Shut up Vidav....oh. Sorry. I get you two confused.
Still not sure if I should actually meet him-Russians and Germans don't tend to get along very well.

Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:23 pm
by grizzaholic
Grizalltheway wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
Shut up Vidav....oh. Sorry. I get you two confused.
Still not sure if I should actually meet him-Russians and Germans don't tend to get along very well.

So breaking some bread over a bottle of
is out of the question?
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:31 pm
by Grizalltheway
grizzaholic wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Still not sure if I should actually meet him-Russians and Germans don't tend to get along very well.

So breaking some bread over a bottle of
is out of the question?
Maybe, but it'll have to be at the Bayern brewery.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:42 pm
by grizzaholic
Grizalltheway wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
So breaking some bread over a bottle of
is out of the question?
Maybe, but it'll have to be at the Bayern brewery.
Another way that the Russians are better than the Germans. They know the difference between a brewery and a distillary.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:44 pm
by Grizalltheway
grizzaholic wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Maybe, but it'll have to be at the Bayern brewery.
Another way that the Russians are better than the Germans. They know the difference between a brewery and a distillary.
I'm saying Bayern would balance out the Russian aspect of the meeting. That bottle looks pretty easy for Grizo to 'mule' in.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:47 pm
by grizzaholic
Grizalltheway wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
Another way that the Russians are better than the Germans. They know the difference between a brewery and a distillary.
I'm saying Bayern would balance out the Russian aspect of the meeting. That bottle looks pretty easy for Grizo to 'mule' in.
But you would have to get Grizo to show FIRST
Get him to give up the bottle SECOND
Vidav wouldn't show if the vodka wasn't poured and waiting when he arrived.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 pm
by Vidav
Grizalltheway wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
So breaking some bread over a bottle of
is out of the question?
Maybe, but it'll have to be at the Bayern brewery.
Name the date. Any day except Tuesday and after 8 and I'm free.

Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:12 pm
by clenz
The full list of APR penalties
Idaho State will lose 2.98 scholarships and ban from playoffs
Jackson State - playoff ban, loss of 6.3 scholarships
Southern - playoff ban, loss of 1.67 scholarships
North Carolina A&T faced a postseason ban, but the NCAA granted it a conditional waiver for this coming year. Waivers generally include demonstrated academic improvement, active presidential involvement, meeting certain APR benchmarks and implementation of an APR improvement plan. The Aggies, however, can face historical penalties for poor academic performance over time.
Delaware State, 9 scholarships
Howard, 6.3 scholarships
Missouri State, 6.25 scholarships
Georgia Southern, 4.47 scholarships
Sam Houston State, 3.25 scholarships
Howard, 2.84 scholarships
Charleston Southern, 2.72 scholarships
Southeastern Louisiana, 1.69 scholarships
Weber State, 0.43 scholarships
Portland State, 0.29 scholarships
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:35 am
by CatMom
what the hell is .29 of a scholarship worth in terms of money and/or athletes?
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:18 am
by tampajag
clenz wrote:The full list of APR penalties
Idaho State will lose 2.98 scholarships and ban from playoffs
Jackson State - playoff ban, loss of 6.3 scholarships
Southern - playoff ban, loss of 1.67 scholarships
North Carolina A&T faced a postseason ban, but the NCAA granted it a conditional waiver for this coming year. Waivers generally include demonstrated academic improvement, active presidential involvement, meeting certain APR benchmarks and implementation of an APR improvement plan. The Aggies, however, can face historical penalties for poor academic performance over time.
Delaware State, 9 scholarships
Howard, 6.3 scholarships
Missouri State, 6.25 scholarships
Georgia Southern, 4.47 scholarships
Sam Houston State, 3.25 scholarships
Howard, 2.84 scholarships
Charleston Southern, 2.72 scholarships
Southeastern Louisiana, 1.69 scholarships
Weber State, 0.43 scholarships
Portland State, 0.29 scholarships
playoff ban for two teams that don't go to the playoffs

The APR issue is serious at both schools, but the punishment is humorous, especially for a 2-9 team that will probably be worse this year.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:03 am
by clenz
CatMom wrote:what the hell is .29 of a scholarship worth in terms of money and/or athletes?
At UNI .29 scholarships is is $4,394.56 for an out of state player.
It doesn't sound like much, but with only 63 scholarships to fill a roster of about 100 it can cause some unhappiness with whoever is losing the scholarship money.
Re: APR - 2011 Postseason Bans
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:58 am
by CatMom
clenz wrote:CatMom wrote:what the hell is .29 of a scholarship worth in terms of money and/or athletes?
At UNI .29 scholarships is is $4,394.56 for an out of state player.
It doesn't sound like much, but with only 63 scholarships to fill a roster of about 100 it can cause some unhappiness with whoever is losing the scholarship money.
Thanks for the info clenz. Not my area of expertise but good to know.