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WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:12 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
WHO IS GOING TO WIN?

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:05 am
by Willie
Griz by 10

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:07 am
by weberwildcat
Griz by none

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
Willie06 wrote:Griz by 10
Willie---not to get picky, but in your sig banner the helmets should be on the opposite sides of the banner..... :| :|

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:14 pm
by Willie
Ah, I see what you mean now. I'll fix it ;)

EDIT: Like this you mean?

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:55 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
Weber State by 17

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:57 pm
by AZGrizFan
Willie06 wrote:Ah, I see what you mean now. I'll fix it ;)

EDIT: Like this you mean?
Exactly. Much better!!! :D :D :D

edit: Now, you got room for 2008 on there? ;) ;)

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:14 pm
by Willie
There's always room. :D

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:08 pm
by grizzaholic
I really do not see either team getting a really big lead unless one team turns the ball over a bunch. Weber will get their scores in and the Griz will burn up 15 or more minutes in 2 scoring drives. If the Griz run the ball well and keep the Weber O off the field the Griz should be able to pull this one out. If the Griz have a lot of 3,4,5 and outs this will be a long day for the Griz D.

I see the score as being something like 24-31, lets just hope the Griz have the bigger number.

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:18 pm
by native
Weber 30, Montana 27 8-)

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:06 am
by Sundown
Montana by 13.

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:41 pm
by native
Willie06 wrote:There's always room. :D
Adding a third helmet would ruin the artistic balance of that beautiful graphic!

Better to save it for another time. :lol:

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:29 am
by Mvemjsunpx
Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:


      • Quarterbacks -- Weber St.

        Running Backs - Weber St.

        Receivers/TEs - Weber St.

        Offensive Line - (push)


        Defensive Line - Montana

        Linebackers --- Montana

        Secondary ---- Weber St.



        Kicking ------ Weber St.

        Punting ------ Montana

        Return Teams - Montana

        Kickoffs ------ Weber St.





          • Weber St. 23-31 Montana

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:31 am
by native
Nice analysis but it needs a little tweaking:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:
      • Quarterbacks -- Weber St.

        Running Backs - Weber St.

        Receivers/TEs - Weber St.

        Offensive Line - (push)


        Defensive Line - Montana Nope. It's a push.

        Linebackers --- Montana

        Secondary ---- Weber St.


        Kicking ------ Weber St.

        Punting ------ Montana

        Return Teams - Montana Nope. Weber. Eteuati is back.

        Kickoffs ------ Weber St.



          • Weber St. 30-27 Montana
You may note that my predicted score implies several field goals from both teams. I do think there will be more defensive stops towards the red zone than have been normal for either team, and therefore more field goal attempts. (Tip 'o the hat to the Montana defense.)

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:26 am
by dbackjon
Weber 24
Montana 17

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:33 am
by AZGrizFan
Common opponents:

Montana 35 - 3 over Montana State; Weber wins 35-12
Montana 29-10 over Idaho State; Weber wins 59-27
Montana 29-12 over PSU; Weber wins 31-21
Montana 45-10 over NAU; Weber wins 42-14
Montana 41-20 over UNC; Weber wins 17-10
Montana 43-7 over Sac State; Weber wins 32-27
Montana 19-3 over EWU; Weber loses 33-26
Montana 30-28 over CP; Weber wins 49-35

In EVERY case but one, Weber gave up more points than Montana. In 4 of 8 cases, Weber scored more than Montana.

What's all this tell you? Nothing.

I predict Griz win 34-31

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:34 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:Weber 24
Montana 17
Jon, the only way the score is this low is if Trevyn Smith and Chase Reynolds EACH have 35 carries. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:10 pm
by BlackFalkin
AZGrizFan wrote:Common opponents:
Montana 35 - 3 over Montana State; Weber wins 35-12
Montana 29-10 over Idaho State; Weber wins 59-27
Montana 29-12 over PSU; Weber wins 31-21
Montana 45-10 over NAU; Weber wins 42-14
Montana 41-20 over UNC; Weber wins 17-10
Montana 43-7 over Sac State; Weber wins 32-27
Montana 19-3 over EWU; Weber loses 33-26
Montana 30-28 over CP; Weber wins 49-35
Montana also beat opponents by larger margin of victory. 22.25 to wsu's 14.0

Proof in the pudding factor: weber already beat montana by 17 :!: WITH A BULLET

However WSU's only loss to 8-) EWU 8-) , Montana easily beat by 16.

Mathmatically: with the common opponents Montana should win by 8.25 points

If you include Montana's loss to Weber, the game SHOULD be much closer. Montana by 3.5 points

Conclusion: Even though WSU beat Montana earlier in the season, the numbers say montana will win.

(something like the big 12 confusion) But thank goodness we have a playoff in Div1-aa

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:05 pm
by GOKATS
Wildcats 38

griz 31

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:13 pm
by AZGrizFan
BlackFalkin wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Common opponents:
Montana 35 - 3 over Montana State; Weber wins 35-12
Montana 29-10 over Idaho State; Weber wins 59-27
Montana 29-12 over PSU; Weber wins 31-21
Montana 45-10 over NAU; Weber wins 42-14
Montana 41-20 over UNC; Weber wins 17-10
Montana 43-7 over Sac State; Weber wins 32-27
Montana 19-3 over EWU; Weber loses 33-26
Montana 30-28 over CP; Weber wins 49-35
Montana also beat opponents by larger margin of victory. 22.25 to wsu's 14.0

Proof in the pudding factor: weber already beat montana by 17 :!: WITH A BULLET

However WSU's only loss to 8-) EWU 8-) , Montana easily beat by 16.

Mathmatically: with the common opponents Montana should win by 8.25 points

If you include Montana's loss to Weber, the game SHOULD be much closer. Montana by 3.5 points

Conclusion: Even though WSU beat Montana earlier in the season, the numbers say montana will win.

(something like the big 12 confusion) But thank goodness we have a playoff in Div1-aa

...and factor in another 5 points for the first game being in Weber and THIS one being at Wa/Griz. That means Griz by 8.5 :D :D

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:45 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
native wrote:Nice analysis but it needs a little tweaking:

Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:


Defensive Line - Montana Nope. It's a push.

Return Teams - Montana Nope. Weber. Eteuati is back.

You may note that my predicted score implies several field goals from both teams. I do think there will be more defensive stops towards the red zone than have been normal for either team, and therefore more field goal attempts. (Tip 'o the hat to the Montana defense.)
Montana's D-Line has more sacks & the Griz have given up noticeably fewer rushing yards. The individual linemen also have better stats overall. Why would that be a push?

I know Eteuati's back. Mariani is a better return guy than Eteuati & the stats prove it, or they at least prove Mariani's return team is better than Eteuati's return team. The Griz also have 2 return TDs this year while Weber has none. The kick return stats are close, but Montana is way better on punt returns. Montana also has 6 punt blocks (part of the punt return team) this season compared to 0 for the Wildcats.


As for the redzone, I believe that will make the difference. In my 31-23 score, I picked each team to score 5 times, but Montana will get 4 TDs & 1 FG compared to 2 TDs & 3 FGs for Weber (not all the scores have to be in the redzone, of course). Montana's redzone defense stats are insanely good this year (just 3.8 points per trip allowed).

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:42 am
by weberwildcat
Mvemjsunpx wrote: REVISED
Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:


      • Quarterbacks -- Weber St.

        Running Backs - Weber St.

        Receivers/TEs - Weber St.

        Offensive Line - Weber St.


        Defensive Line - Weber St.

        Linebackers --- Montana

        Secondary ---- Weber St.



        Kicking ------ Weber St.

        Punting ------ Montana

        Return Teams - Weber St. - Ete is back

        Kickoffs ------ Weber St.





          • Weber St. Montana

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:42 am
by weberwildcat
BlackFalkin wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Common opponents:
Montana 35 - 3 over Montana State; Weber wins 35-12
Montana 29-10 over Idaho State; Weber wins 59-27
Montana 29-12 over PSU; Weber wins 31-21
Montana 45-10 over NAU; Weber wins 42-14
Montana 41-20 over UNC; Weber wins 17-10
Montana 43-7 over Sac State; Weber wins 32-27
Montana 19-3 over EWU; Weber loses 33-26
Montana 30-28 over CP; Weber wins 49-35
Montana also beat opponents by larger margin of victory. 22.25 to wsu's 14.0

Proof in the pudding factor: weber already beat montana by 17 :!: WITH A BULLET

However WSU's only loss to 8-) EWU 8-) , Montana easily beat by 16.

Mathmatically: with the common opponents Montana should win by 8.25 points

If you include Montana's loss to Weber, the game SHOULD be much closer. Montana by 3.5 points

Conclusion: Even though WSU beat Montana earlier in the season, the numbers say montana will win.

(something like the big 12 confusion) But thank goodness we have a playoff in Div1-aa

Montana also allowed 45 to weber

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:11 pm
by BlackFalkin
weberwildcat, would u put your check on the outcome of the game this saturday? yes or no? GO! If you truly believe wsu can win then u would.

Re: WEBER - MONTANA Predictions?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:14 pm
by weberwildcat
BlackFalkin wrote:weberwildcat, would u put your check on the outcome of the game this saturday? yes or no? GO! If you truly believe wsu can win then u would.
Will u put ur check for UM?