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The Sports Network wrote:1. James Madison Dukes (74) 10-1 2,018 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (7) 10-2 1,936 2
3. Cal Poly Mustangs 8-2 1,774 3
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 10-2 1,753 4
5. Montana Grizzlies 11-1 1,719 5
6. Villanova Wildcats 9-2 1,627 6
7. Richmond Spiders 9-3 1,550 7
8. Wofford Terriers 9-2 1,422 9
9. Southern Illinois Salukis 9-2 1,377 10
10. New Hampshire Wildcats 9-2 1,206 11
11. Central Arkansas Bears 10-2 1,128 13
12. Weber State Wildcats 9-3 1,095 8
13. South Carolina State Bulldogs 10-2 980 15
14. Liberty Flames 10-2 771 22
15. Harvard Crimson 9-1 676 19
16. Colgate Raiders 9-2 630 21
17. Elon Phoenix 8-4 597 12
18. McNeese State Cowboys 7-4 570 14
19. William & Mary Tribe 7-4 558 16
20. Maine Black Bears 8-4 432 17
21. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 8-3 417 NR
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8-3 401 24
23. Texas State Bobcats 8-4 259 NR
24. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 8-4 252 18
25. Prairie View A&M Panthers 9-1 142 NR

Others receiving votes: South Dakota State 139, Grambling 118, Furman 113, Florida A&M 92, Massachusetts 59, Holy Cross 50, Brown 49, North Dakota State 41, Western Illinois 34, Northwestern State 22, Eastern Washington 18, Albany 17, Tennessee State 15, San Diego 11, Montana State 10, Monmouth 7, Jacksonville 6, Bethune-Cookman 5, Lafayette 4, Georgia Southern 3, Dayton 2, Penn 1.

As of November 23, 2008, at 09:08 AM ET

AZGrizFan wrote:I said it in another thread: I think Liberty is the 16th team in.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:I said it in another thread: I think Liberty is the 16th team in.

Well, you're a dope. They're not in.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:
Well, you're a dope. They're not in.

Actually, it's the committee that's the dopes here. Once again, the 5th best team in a top heavy conference gets in. They lose respectability every year.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Actually, it's the committee that's the dopes here. Once again, the 5th best team in a top heavy conference gets in. They lose respectability every year.

Missing word from Z's resume: adaptability.

Sly Fox wrote:Somebody tell me who Maine beat to earn their way in. And someone explain to me how a victory over Iona or Monmouth is better than Glenville State.

This Maine selection is mind boggling. William & Mary I could understand. The Black Bears had no case whatsoever to even be considered.

Col Hogan wrote:

Sly Fox wrote:Somebody tell me who Maine beat to earn their way in. And someone explain to me how a victory over Iona or Monmouth is better than Glenville State.

This Maine selection is mind boggling. William & Mary I could understand. The Black Bears had no case whatsoever to even be considered.

SOS....SOS...

Schedule better...

AZGrizFan wrote: Actually, it's the committee that's the dopes here. Once again, the 5th best team in a top heavy conference gets in. They lose respectability every year.

travelinman67 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Actually, it's the committee that's the dopes here. Once again, the 5th best team in a top heavy conference gets in. They lose respectability every year.

Bingo. Just stack the CAA teams against each other and git'r done early. This ain't 2007. C. Arkansas earned it more than Maine.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote: SOS....SOS...

Schedule better...

Apparently it doesn't matter if you actually WIN any of those tough games, huh? They must have been biting nails chosing one 8-4 team (Maine) over another 8-4 team (Elon), each with ZERO quality wins.

Col Hogan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Apparently it doesn't matter if you actually WIN any of those tough games, huh? They must have been biting nails chosing one 8-4 team (Maine) over another 8-4 team (Elon), each with ZERO quality wins.

I'm not going to argue the merits of Maine over Elon...but I would argue either team over Liberty all day long...

Liberty had two DII wins and lost to Presby....'nuf said...

Sly Fox wrote:There are no merits. Boy do those Bears lose nicely. But they did beat a slightly above mediocre team whose AD took care of his buddies for the second straight year.

Never can any CAA folks ever make a crack about BCS leagues and the FBS. Ever.

As for the two DII games, one was hastily arranged after the #1 seed in theplayoffs pushed our scheduled game this year back a year. And the other was after another I-AA pulled out late. Frankly, either of the DIIs would've made mincemeat of Iona. And that horrendous loss to Presby .. the Blue Hose would've destroyed Iona. And making a cash grab at Iowa is hardly proof of Maine's case.

It is time to move on and I'll do so. But I will keep wondering how a certain AD in Amherst will be able to sleep at night.

And Elon, I am guessing you guys weren't paying attention to what happened Saturday any more than your AD.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote: I'm not going to argue the merits of Maine over Elon...but I would argue either team over Liberty all day long...

Liberty had two DII wins and lost to Presby....'nuf said...

Maine's OOC:
Monmouth?
Stoneybrook?
Iona?

Maine's Conference Performance:
Blown out by Richmond?
Blown out by JMU?
Losing to Delaware?

Not a SINGLE quality conference win.

How About Elon?
Stonybrook?
Presbyterian?
BEATEN BY LIBERTY

Again, not a single quality conference win.

Liberty did what they said they had to do. They scheduled Youngstown State. They scheduled Elon. And they beat both of them. How are they supposed to know YSU was going to suck this year? Elon was everybody's Cinderella, and suddenly they don't qualify as a quality win?

Not that it matters from a tournament standpoint, but it'd be nice to have some new blood in, rather than the 5th best team from one conference.

Just my opinion, do with it what you usually do. Ignore it.

Col Hogan wrote: I know, ECB, CAA fixed it, it's not fair,....

I could put together a pairing...you could do the same...someone going to say "it isn't fair"...

Well, I gotta agree with Cappy this time...STFU and play the games...play with what you've been dealt, and move on...

Not everyone can get into the tourney...someone is always going feel screwed...

THAT'S LIFE!!!!!

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote: I'm not going to argue the merits of Maine over Elon...but I would argue either team over Liberty all day long...

Liberty had two DII wins and lost to Presby....'nuf said...

Maine's OOC:
Monmouth?
Stoneybrook?
Iona?

Maine's Conference Performance:
Blown out by Richmond?
Blown out by JMU?
Losing to Delaware?

Not a SINGLE quality conference win.

How About Elon?
Stonybrook?
Presbyterian?
BEATEN BY LIBERTY

Again, not a single quality conference win.

Liberty did what they said they had to do. They scheduled Youngstown State. They scheduled Elon. And they beat both of them. How are they supposed to know YSU was going to suck this year? Elon was everybody's Cinderella, and suddenly they don't qualify as a quality win?

Not that it matters from a tournament standpoint, but it'd be nice to have some new blood in, rather than the 5th best team from one conference.

Just my opinion, do with it what you usually do. Ignore it.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote: I know, ECB, CAA fixed it, it's not fair,....

I could put together a pairing...you could do the same...someone going to say "it isn't fair"...

Well, I gotta agree with Cappy this time...STFU and play the games...play with what you've been dealt, and move on...

Not everyone can get into the tourney...someone is always going feel screwed...

THAT'S LIFE!!!!!

Please point out Maine's quality win. And no, UMass doesn't count.

We've said it before and we'll say it again: If quality LOSSES count, SUU should have been national champs a couple years ago. SCHEDULING tough and WINNING those games are two different things. Going 8-4 with your four losses coming against the only four teams with a pulse does not a playoff team make.

NEW BLOOD!!! NEW BLOOD!!! NEW BLOOD!!!

Col Hogan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Please point out Maine's quality win. And no, UMass doesn't count.

We've said it before and we'll say it again: If quality LOSSES count, SUU should have been national champs a couple years ago. SCHEDULING tough and WINNING those games are two different things. Going 8-4 with your four losses coming against the only four teams with a pulse does not a playoff team make.

NEW BLOOD!!! NEW BLOOD!!! NEW BLOOD!!!

You want new blood...yet, which team has the longest run in the playoffs...

You want new blood, as long as your team is in....