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North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:37 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
Does anyone know if UND will be able to keep thier nickname now that they are going to the Big Sky or are they still being forced to change it?
Do they have any ideas of when they have to come up with a new one?
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:44 pm
by EWURanger
There's a law-suit going on between UND and the NCAA. The premise of UND's argument is that there are other institutions in the NCAA with american indian nicknames/mascots............I.E. FSU Seminoles, that have not had to change their names. Kinda makes sense. I think UND has 3 years to get approval from the tribes in the Dakotas to continue to use the Sioux name. If they do, then they won't be changing their name.
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:48 pm
by webfan
The Ute's of Utah had to get Tribal approval too.
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:18 pm
by cats2506
Yeah, what the hell do we call the new guys?
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:24 pm
by webfan
New guys in the Army were called "FNG".
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:28 pm
by JBB
The nickname is gone. Saturday is the last home game using the name. This is the last season. They are in the phase out part now. Im not sure how long that will last, but the lawsuit gave them 3 yrs and then, as I understand it, the State intervened and gave them until yesterday. In the mean time, when it became apparent even to UND that they had long since ruined any chance with the Tribes, they announced an end to the nickname.
There was a huge struggle this summer with petitions and votes with one of the Tribes even expressing a majority opinion that the nickname was ok. Unfortunately for UND the vote wasnt binding on the Tribe and they never issued a letter granting permission to UND to use the name. That really got under their skin because they felt democracy had been ignored.
The big problem was the constant running down of the Tribes by the UND community over the nickname they claimed they used to honor the Tribes. There was just too much racial and vindictive behavior aimed toward the Tribes to thwart the good things many of the UND community thought they were doing.
Its a shame really. Indeed.

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:23 pm
by ArmyOfDarkness
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:35 pm
by GeauxSioux
This will be the final year for the Fighting Sioux name. Everything you ever wanted to know about the retiring of the name and then some can be found here....
http://nickname.und.edu/logo/.
UND was able to get a vote on the Spirit Lake reservation which turned out to at 66% in favor of the name. The Standing Rock tribal council would never allow the vote there to occur. Since the settlement with the NCAA required approval of both tribes, the name is being retired.
By the way, one of the reasons the tribes were and have been upset with the name is because of this kind of stuff.....
http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21531
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:39 pm
by FantasyMoney
From what I understand they have no plans on having a nickname they want to be know as just North Dakota. Since they can no longer be called the Sioux go with the old nickname "The Flickertails."

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:48 pm
by cats2506
webfan wrote:New guys in the Army were called "FNG".
Reading the rest of the thread, I cam back to this since I didn't get an answer
the UND FNG
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:59 pm
by GeauxSioux
Sorry, missed that it was a two part question. There are a lot of names being tossed around. Here is a good place for that discussion....
http://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/9644 ... ame-ideas/ The thread started about 3 years ago.
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:53 pm
by Green Cookie Monster
I hope you stay localized in your new mascot selection. No feline, bovine, canine, go original.
Swarmin' Locust
Pronghorn
Wheat Thrashers
Fighting Pheasants
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:08 pm
by SDHornet
How about the UND Great Plains but a mascot is a jet or something.
*Yes I purposely used "plains" instead of "planes".
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 pm
by ArmyOfDarkness
For real, I think you should be the
University of North Dakota Demons.... You could even win the Capital One Mascot challenge in your first year with this idea for the outfit...
I know I would vote for it

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:20 am
by EWURanger
webfan wrote:New guys in the Army were called "FNG".
The correct nomenclature is "cherry".

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:09 am
by JBB
how about the "butthockies"?
They say it a lot anyway..
Did I just read losing the nickname was NDSUs fault!
You dont want me to go over to sioussports.com and pick up all the vindicitve racists comments from self indulged and entitled UND fans do you geauxsioux?
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:15 am
by Big McLargehuge
Whatever the name change is, I'll miss the Fighting Sioux name and logo. I'm a big college hockey fan and I loved the Sioux from the start in part because of the name and logo (and the fact that at the time there were no Pennsylvanian teams in the top level of college hockey, somehow).
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:48 am
by GeauxSioux
Big McLargehuge wrote:Whatever the name change is, I'll miss the Fighting Sioux name and logo. I'm a big college hockey fan and I loved the Sioux from the start in part because of the name and logo (and the fact that at the time there were no Pennsylvanian teams in the top level of college hockey, somehow).
I agree the name and logo are special. My dad played basketball at UND back in the 50's, so the Sioux name has been in our house since I can remember. It will be hard to replace, but change is inevitable.
A name that came up a few years ago was Nokota. It is the state equine for North Dakota and has a distinct North Dakota past. A guy on Siouxsports.com came up with it......
http://blog.siouxsports.com/?s=nokota
I'm kind of partial to the University of North Dakota Wild Nokotas.
Here is a website for saving the Nokota, the horse of the Northern Plains...
http://www.nokotahorse.org/cms/
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:59 am
by webfan
I like that. It's original and apprproiate. Better than another cat of some sort or other animal. Oh, thats right tyey're talking about a horse. Whatever, I still like UND Nokotas
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:17 am
by Thumper 76
I just saw a line in there that could/will start a fight between the north dakota schools.
I will be on the NDSU side for this one cause the line is pretty retarded.
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:31 am
by Gil Dobie
Swarmin' Locust - Original for sure
Pronghorn - similar UNK Antelopes
Wheat Thrashers - similar Brandon Wheat Kings
Fighting Pheasants - similar Aberdeen Pheasants
I still like the Rough Riders, something historical about ND, even though the local HS has the same name. Creighton and Creighton Prep have the same nickname, Blue Jays.
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:55 am
by weberwildcat
North Dakota Sea Bass? Ive been wanting to name a dog Sea Bass since 1994.
KICK HIS ASS SEA BASS!!
Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:01 am
by kalm
How about the Fly Overs?

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:53 am
by SouthDakotaGrizzly
I'm a strong supporter of changing the name to the Fighting Sue. Tweak the current logo a little bit to make it look like Susan B. Anthony and you're all set.

Re: North Dakota Name
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:05 am
by weberwildcat
How about the Bear Cats?
we have 2 bears and 3 cats but no bear cats.