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Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:17 pm
by weberwildcat
1. EWU 5-1;
1. UM 5-1
3. MSU 4-1
4. WSU 3-2
5. NAU 2-2
6. Sac 2-3
7. PSU 1-3
8. UNC 1-5
9. ISU 0-5
Next week:
EWU @ PSU
UM @ WSU
Sac @ NAU
MSU @ ISU
UNC, OOC game vs USD
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:24 pm
by dbackjon
weberwildcat wrote:1. EWU 5-1;
1. UM 5-1
1. MSU 4-1
4. WSU 3-2
5. NAU 2-2
6. Sac 2-3
7. PSU 1-3
8. UNC 1-5
9. ISU 0-5
Next week:
EWU @ PSU
UM @ WSU
NAU @ Sac
MSU @ ISU
UNC, OOC game vs USD
NAU is at HOME next week vs Sac
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:27 pm
by siuham
MSU still in the driver's seat for the auto-bid?
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:28 pm
by weberwildcat
dbackjon wrote:weberwildcat wrote:1. EWU 5-1;
1. UM 5-1
1. MSU 4-1
4. WSU 3-2
5. NAU 2-2
6. Sac 2-3
7. PSU 1-3
8. UNC 1-5
9. ISU 0-5
Next week:
EWU @ PSU
UM @ WSU
Sac @ NAU
MSU @ ISU
UNC, OOC game vs USD
NAU is at HOME next week vs Sac
fixed
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:31 pm
by Willie
siuham wrote:MSU still in the driver's seat for the auto-bid?
Not when they have to play in Missoula this year.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:36 pm
by JALMOND
Willie wrote:siuham wrote:MSU still in the driver's seat for the auto-bid?
Not when they have to play in Missoula this year.
MSU gets the AQ if they win out, which would include a win over the Griz.
If the Griz win out, they would need EWU to lose one more conference game to get the AQ.
If EWU wins out, they would need MSU to lose one more conference game for the AQ.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:40 pm
by Willie
Either way, the Big Sky should get 3 teams into the playoffs.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:49 pm
by dbackjon
Conference Games left:
Montana: (5-1, 6-2)
@ Weber
Montana State
Eastern Washington: (5-1, 6-2)
@ Portland State
Idaho State
Montana State: (4-1, 6-2)
@Idaho State
Weber State
@Montana
Northern Arizona: (2-2, 4-3)
Sac State
@Northern Colorado
Weber State
Portland State
Possible for 4 teams still at 8-3 or better
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:51 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
Willie wrote:Either way, the Big Sky should get 3 teams into the playoffs.
I think it'll be 4.
NAU should win out & that'll get them in. EWU can afford to lose once. The Griz/Cat winner will be in barring an earlier collapse; the Griz/Cat loser will probably get in if they win the rest. Weber could get in, but they'll have to beat NAU & both Montanas and that isn't likely (they're effectively 4-4 due to an upcoming paycheck game).
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:10 pm
by EWURanger
dbackjon wrote:Conference Games left:
Montana: (5-1, 6-2)
@ Weber
Montana State
Eastern Washington: (4-1, 5-2)
@ Portland State
Idaho State
Montana State: (3-1, 5-2)
@Idaho State
Weber State
@Montana
Northern Arizona: (2-2, 4-3)
Sac State
@Northern Colorado
Weber State
Portland State
Possible for 4 teams still at 8-3 or better
Eastern is 5-1 in conference, and 6-2 overall - same as Montana, not 4-1 and 5-2. Unless you are not counting the CWU game as a win. In that case you can't count Montana's D-2 win either, but we'd still be 5-1 in conference.
Also, MSU is 6-2 overall, 4-1 in conference.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:15 pm
by EWURanger
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Willie wrote:Either way, the Big Sky should get 3 teams into the playoffs.
I think it'll be 4.
NAU should win out & that'll get them in. EWU can afford to lose once. The Griz/Cat winner will be in barring an earlier collapse; the Griz/Cat loser will probably get in if they win the rest. Weber could get in, but they'll have to beat NAU & both Montanas and that isn't likely (they're effectively 4-4 due to an upcoming paycheck game).
All 4 of NAU's remaining games are going to be really tough. Sac and PSU are no joke, and Weber is still dangerous with Higgins at the helm. Hell, UNC could still win a couple.
Also, you think NAU wins out without Herrick? Don't know about that one. I hope for his sake and NAU's that he's still able to play the rest of the year.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:21 pm
by JALMOND
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Willie wrote:Either way, the Big Sky should get 3 teams into the playoffs.
I think it'll be 4.
NAU should win out & that'll get them in. EWU can afford to lose once. The Griz/Cat winner will be in barring an earlier collapse; the Griz/Cat loser will probably get in if they win the rest. Weber could get in, but they'll have to beat NAU & both Montanas and that isn't likely (they're effectively 4-4 due to an upcoming paycheck game).
It always seem that we end up with one fewer team in the playoffs than we think we should have. We should get 4, but I think we'll only end up with three.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:22 pm
by dbackjon
EWURanger wrote:dbackjon wrote:Conference Games left:
Montana: (5-1, 6-2)
@ Weber
Montana State
Eastern Washington: (4-1, 5-2)
@ Portland State
Idaho State
Montana State: (3-1, 5-2)
@Idaho State
Weber State
@Montana
Northern Arizona: (2-2, 4-3)
Sac State
@Northern Colorado
Weber State
Portland State
Possible for 4 teams still at 8-3 or better
Eastern is 5-1 in conference, and 6-2 overall - same as Montana, not 4-1 and 5-2. Unless you are not counting the CWU game as a win. In that case you can't count Montana's D-2 win either, but we'd still be 5-1 in conference.
Also, MSU is 6-2 overall, 4-1 in conference.
Fixed - Yahoo had updated NAU and MT, but not the others
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:25 pm
by dbackjon
EWURanger wrote:Mvemjsunpx wrote:
I think it'll be 4.
NAU should win out & that'll get them in. EWU can afford to lose once. The Griz/Cat winner will be in barring an earlier collapse; the Griz/Cat loser will probably get in if they win the rest. Weber could get in, but they'll have to beat NAU & both Montanas and that isn't likely (they're effectively 4-4 due to an upcoming paycheck game).
All 4 of NAU's remaining games are going to be really tough. Sac and PSU are no joke, and Weber is still dangerous with Higgins at the helm. Hell, UNC could still win a couple.
Also, you think NAU wins out without Herrick? Don't know about that one. I hope for his sake and NAU's that he's still able to play the rest of the year.
NAU could go 4-0, or 0-4. knowing Sauer, 2-2
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:37 pm
by JALMOND
dbackjon wrote:EWURanger wrote:
All 4 of NAU's remaining games are going to be really tough. Sac and PSU are no joke, and Weber is still dangerous with Higgins at the helm. Hell, UNC could still win a couple.
Also, you think NAU wins out without Herrick? Don't know about that one. I hope for his sake and NAU's that he's still able to play the rest of the year.
NAU could go 4-0, or 0-4. knowing Sauer, 2-2
NAU has lost their last 4 in each of the last 2 years, now referred to as "The Swoon". Granted they were not set up to run the table like they are this year, but if Herrick is out for awhile, it could get interesting.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:41 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
EWURanger wrote:All 4 of NAU's remaining games are going to be really tough. Sac and PSU are no joke, and Weber is still dangerous with Higgins at the helm. Hell, UNC could still win a couple.
Also, you think NAU wins out without Herrick? Don't know about that one. I hope for his sake and NAU's that he's still able to play the rest of the year.
I don't know how long Herrick is out, but I think so. Defense is NAU's main strength, plus Herrick hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire anyway. Sac & PSU are decent, but those games are in the dome. Also, NAU has an outstanding run defense & all of their remaining foes are run-first teams except Weber.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:44 pm
by SuperHornet
The best we can do (and what we probably WILL do) is 7-4. That gets adjusted to 6-4 when the committee takes out D-II WOU.
Conclusion? Barring some major shakeups in the next few weeks, we're toast.
Thank you, EWU....
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:36 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
SuperHornet wrote:The best we can do (and what we probably WILL do) is 7-4. That gets adjusted to 6-4 when the committee takes out D-II WOU.
Conclusion? Barring some major shakeups in the next few weeks, we're toast.
Thank you, EWU....

Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:46 am
by bpcats
With the way the Cats are playing I would not chalk up any wins just yet with Idaho State (they have a lot of talent at DE and linebacker positions) and played Weber tough. Weber has one of the most explosive offenses in the league and when the rely on the run which they can do and limit Higgins attempts to around 25 a game they are dangerous.
If MSU can get by Idaho State, I expect a nail biter against Weber, especially since we are fielding a freshman and sophomore corners along with all our other injuries. Biggest difference is that we don't have a dominant pass rusher making plays this year. We have a bunch of young guys playing hard, but making mistakes.
Both UM and EWU are fielding the most complete teams giving the best effort on both sides of the ball and both should make the playoffs easily.
Cats need to get by these next two teams and get fully healthy during the bye week for us to even have a shot at beating the Griz.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:43 am
by weberwildcat
I think the 3 playoff teams are EWU, MSU, UM and the rest don't get in.
Can NAU really be as dominant without Herrick for the rest of the year? Weber ending the year at Texas Tech is bad news. Sac winning out seems likely but I don't think anyone can rely on that this year. I don't like that Sac has 3 road games. Sac hasn't won on the road this year but have had all tough games.
Sac
@ NAU
PSU
@ ISU
@ Davis
I am very hopeful about Weber for next year. If our backup QB is good like our coach thinks we could have a good team. We have the youngest team in the conference now and will only lose 2 defensive starters.
Weber has Montana at home this week. If we can pull a W out of that one we could win at NAU and give MSU a game in boze. Interesting how when WSU keeps the turnovers low how much easier a game can be to score in. lol
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:19 am
by native
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Willie wrote:Either way, the Big Sky should get 3 teams into the playoffs.
I think it'll be 4.
NAU should win out & that'll get them in. EWU can afford to lose once. The Griz/Cat winner will be in barring an earlier collapse; the Griz/Cat loser will probably get in if they win the rest. Weber could get in, but they'll have to beat NAU & both Montanas and that isn't likely (they're effectively 4-4 due to an upcoming paycheck game).
Four? A bold prediction indeed!
I like your thinking, but can't see more than 3 BSC teams in the playoffs. Hope you're right and I'm wrong, though.

Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:36 pm
by uofmman1122
We won't get four.
...Then again, I said we wouldn't get three last year.
I know one thing we can all agree on:
All the BSC teams will be on the same side of the bracket, probably eliminating all but one before the semis.

Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:56 pm
by SDHornet
weberwildcat wrote:I think the 3 playoff teams are EWU, MSU, UM and the rest don't get in.
Can NAU really be as dominant without Herrick for the rest of the year? Weber ending the year at Texas Tech is bad news. Sac winning out seems likely but I don't think anyone can rely on that this year. I don't like that Sac has 3 road games. Sac hasn't won on the road this year but have had all tough games.
Sac
@ NAU
PSU
@ ISU
@ Davis
I am very hopeful about Weber for next year. If our backup QB is good like our coach thinks we could have a good team. We have the youngest team in the conference now and will only lose 2 defensive starters.
Weber has Montana at home this week. If we can pull a W out of that one we could win at NAU and give MSU a game in boze. Interesting how when WSU keeps the turnovers low how much easier a game can be to score in. lol
Even if we win out, we are still sitting with only 6 D-I wins. The only notable game left for the Hornets is the Causeway.
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:06 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
uofmman1122 wrote:We won't get four.
...Then again, I said we wouldn't get three last year.
I know one thing we can all agree on:
All the BSC teams will be on the same side of the bracket, probably eliminating all but one before the semis.

My reasoning is that, if a Big Sky team gets to 7 DI wins, they're most likely in. I believe an 8-3 NAU or EWU is in for sure. An 8-3 Montana or Montana State has some uncertainty, but still probably gets in. Weber should get in at 7-4 if they can pull a miracle & get there (they would have an identical resume to last year). Remember there are two more at-larges this year and that should benefit a borderline power conference team.
They won't be on the same side of the bracket. They weren't last year—EWU & Montana were both in the #1-seed block, but Weber was in the bottom half.
I do have one question, though. With the extra round, will the "no intraconference games" rule still only apply to the first round (when 12 teams have byes), or will it apply to the first 2 rounds (since the second round is the old first round).
Re: Big Sky Standings after Week 8
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:08 pm
by SDHornet
Mvemjsunpx wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:We won't get four.
...Then again, I said we wouldn't get three last year.
I know one thing we can all agree on:
All the BSC teams will be on the same side of the bracket, probably eliminating all but one before the semis.

My reasoning is that, if a Big Sky team gets to 7 DI wins, they're most likely in. I believe an 8-3 NAU or EWU is in for sure. An 8-3 Montana or Montana State has some uncertainty, but still probably gets in. Remember there are two more at-larges this year and that should benefit a borderline power conference team.
They won't be on the same side of the bracket. They weren't last year—EWU & Montana were both in the #1-seed block, but Weber was in the bottom half.
I do have one question, though. With the extra round, will the "no intraconference games" rule still only apply to the first round (when 12 teams have byes), or will it apply to the first 2 rounds (since the second round is the old first round).
I think someone posted it will only hold for the 1st round.