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2010 FCS Coaches Week 4 Poll (September 27, 2010)
Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Appalachian State (16) 4-0 681 1
2. Villanova (6) 3-1 666 2
3. James Madison (3) 4-0 651 3
4. Jacksonville State (1) 4-0 607 4
5. Delaware (1) 4-0 593 6
6. Stephen F. Austin (1) 3-1 573 7
7. William & Mary 3-1 489 8
8. Massachusetts 3-1 472 9
9. South Carolina State 2-1 417 12
10. Montana State 3-1 405 16
11. Montana 2-2 368 14
12. Richmond 1-2 357 5
13. North Dakota State 3-1 333 T18
14. Cal-Poly 3-1 301 22
15. New Hampshire 2-2 285 T18
16. Georgia Southern 3-1 270 24
17. Eastern Washington 2-2 231 10
18. Texas State 3-1 215 23
19. Illinois State 3-1 171 25
20. Youngstown State 3-1 146 NR
21. Elon 1-3 120 11
22. Northern Iowa 1-2 116 15
T23. Furman 2-1 78 NR
T23. Southern Illinois 1-3 78 13
25. Central Arkansas 3-1 71 NR

Others receiving votes (points in parentheses): Liberty (58), Northern Arizona (54), McNeese State (53), Western Illinois (50), Alabama State (35), Southeast Missouri State (34), Penn (27), South Dakota (27), Wofford (17), South Dakota State (10), Grambling (10), Morgan State (7), Weber State (7), Brown (6), Jacksonville (4), Sacramento State (3), Harvard (2), Missouri State (2), Arkansas-Pine Bluff (1), Robert Morris (1)

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:2010 FCS Coaches Week 4 Poll (September 27, 2010)
Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Appalachian State (16) 4-0 681 1
2. Villanova (6) 3-1 666 2
3. James Madison (3) 4-0 651 3
4. Jacksonville State (1) 4-0 607 4
5. Delaware (1) 4-0 593 6
6. Stephen F. Austin (1) 3-1 573 7
7. William & Mary 3-1 489 8
8. Massachusetts 3-1 472 9
9. South Carolina State 2-1 417 12
10. Montana State 3-1 405 16
11. Montana 2-2 368 14
12. Richmond 1-2 357 5
13. North Dakota State 3-1 333 T18
14. Cal-Poly 3-1 301 22
15. New Hampshire 2-2 285 T18
16. Georgia Southern 3-1 270 24
17. Eastern Washington 2-2 231 10
18. Texas State 3-1 215 23
19. Illinois State 3-1 171 25
20. Youngstown State 3-1 146 NR
21. Elon 1-3 120 11
22. Northern Iowa 1-2 116 15
T23. Furman 2-1 78 NR
T23. Southern Illinois 1-3 78 13
25. Central Arkansas 3-1 71 NR

Others receiving votes (points in parentheses): Liberty (58), Northern Arizona (54), McNeese State (53), Western Illinois (50), Alabama State (35), Southeast Missouri State (34), Penn (27), South Dakota (27), Wofford (17), South Dakota State (10), Grambling (10), Morgan State (7), Weber State (7), Brown (6), Jacksonville (4), Sacramento State (3), Harvard (2), Missouri State (2), Arkansas-Pine Bluff (1), Robert Morris (1)

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:2010 FCS Coaches Week 4 Poll (September 27, 2010)
Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Appalachian State (16) 4-0 681 1
2. Villanova (6) 3-1 666 2
3. James Madison (3) 4-0 651 3
4. Jacksonville State (1) 4-0 607 4
5. Delaware (1) 4-0 593 6
6. Stephen F. Austin (1) 3-1 573 7
7. William & Mary 3-1 489 8
8. Massachusetts 3-1 472 9 - WAY too low
9. South Carolina State 2-1 417 12
10. Montana State 3-1 405 16 - Too low
11. Montana 2-2 368 14 - About 10 spots too high
12. Richmond 1-2 357 5 - shouldn't even be in the poll
13. North Dakota State 3-1 333 T18
14. Cal-Poly 3-1 301 22 - ?? Below Montana?
15. New Hampshire 2-2 285 T18
16. Georgia Southern 3-1 270 24 - Too low
17. Eastern Washington 2-2 231 10 - ?? Below Montana?
18. Texas State 3-1 215 23
19. Illinois State 3-1 171 25
20. Youngstown State 3-1 146 NR
21. Elon 1-3 120 11 - WHY???
22. Northern Iowa 1-2 116 15 - WHY?
T23. Furman 2-1 78 NR
T23. Southern Illinois 1-3 78 13 - WHY??
25. Central Arkansas 3-1 71 NR - Too low
Others receiving votes (points in parentheses): Liberty (58), Northern Arizona (54), McNeese State (53), Western Illinois (50), Alabama State (35), Southeast Missouri State (34), Penn (27), South Dakota (27), Wofford (17), South Dakota State (10), Grambling (10), Morgan State (7), Weber State (7), Brown (6), Jacksonville (4), Sacramento State (3), Harvard (2), Missouri State (2), Arkansas-Pine Bluff (1), Robert Morris (1)

It's week 4 and they've still got FOUR 1-win teams in their poll???

Another poll with 4-5 BS teams in it.

AZGrizFan wrote:

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:2010 FCS Coaches Week 4 Poll (September 27, 2010)
Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Appalachian State (16) 4-0 681 1
2. Villanova (6) 3-1 666 2
3. James Madison (3) 4-0 651 3
4. Jacksonville State (1) 4-0 607 4
5. Delaware (1) 4-0 593 6
6. Stephen F. Austin (1) 3-1 573 7
7. William & Mary 3-1 489 8
8. Massachusetts 3-1 472 9 - WAY too low
9. South Carolina State 2-1 417 12
10. Montana State 3-1 405 16 - Too low
11. Montana 2-2 368 14 - About 10 spots too high
12. Richmond 1-2 357 5 - shouldn't even be in the poll
13. North Dakota State 3-1 333 T18
14. Cal-Poly 3-1 301 22 - ?? Below Montana?
15. New Hampshire 2-2 285 T18
16. Georgia Southern 3-1 270 24 - Too low
17. Eastern Washington 2-2 231 10 - ?? Below Montana?
18. Texas State 3-1 215 23
19. Illinois State 3-1 171 25
20. Youngstown State 3-1 146 NR
21. Elon 1-3 120 11 - WHY???
22. Northern Iowa 1-2 116 15 - WHY?
T23. Furman 2-1 78 NR
T23. Southern Illinois 1-3 78 13 - WHY??
25. Central Arkansas 3-1 71 NR - Too low
Others receiving votes (points in parentheses): Liberty (58), Northern Arizona (54), McNeese State (53), Western Illinois (50), Alabama State (35), Southeast Missouri State (34), Penn (27), South Dakota (27), Wofford (17), South Dakota State (10), Grambling (10), Morgan State (7), Weber State (7), Brown (6), Jacksonville (4), Sacramento State (3), Harvard (2), Missouri State (2), Arkansas-Pine Bluff (1), Robert Morris (1)

It's week 4 and they've still got FOUR 1-win teams in their poll???

Another poll with 4-5 BS teams in it.

I had Elon in the bottom five of mine. Can't go solely on record. Elon has a FBS loss and lost to top 15 Richmond and #16 GSU. A lot of this is going to shake itself out. If Elon does not deserve to be ranked they won't be at the end of the year. These things should not even be done for the first five or six weeks. If this thing has not worked itself out by October 11th then I will really start to complain. It's still too early to know for sure if a 1-2 team should or should not be ranked. Still have not seen enough league games in my opinion.

Richmond shouldn't be top 15 tho.

Only 28 coaches voting. Yet another invalid poll.

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:I had Elon in the bottom five of mine. Can't go solely on record. Elon has a FBS loss and lost to top 15 Richmond and #16 GSU. A lot of this is going to shake itself out. If Elon does not deserve to be ranked they won't be at the end of the year. These things should not even be done for the first five or six weeks. If this thing has not worked itself out by October 11th then I will really start to complain. It's still too early to know for sure if a 1-2 team should or should not be ranked. Still have not seen enough league games in my opinion.

And that's Richmond's ONLY win, and it took OT to do it--AT HOME. I watched the Elon/GSU game on reply. Elon got absolutely WORKED in that game. They have one win, over a Division II school. Neither should be ranked, in my opinion.

89Hen wrote:Only 28 coaches voting. Yet another invalid poll.

There are two voters from each conference.

AZGrizFan wrote:

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:2010 FCS Coaches Week 4 Poll (September 27, 2010)
Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Appalachian State (16) 4-0 681 1
2. Villanova (6) 3-1 666 2
3. James Madison (3) 4-0 651 3
4. Jacksonville State (1) 4-0 607 4
5. Delaware (1) 4-0 593 6
6. Stephen F. Austin (1) 3-1 573 7
7. William & Mary 3-1 489 8
8. Massachusetts 3-1 472 9 - WAY too low
9. South Carolina State 2-1 417 12
10. Montana State 3-1 405 16 - Too low
11. Montana 2-2 368 14 - About 10 spots too high
12. Richmond 1-2 357 5 - shouldn't even be in the poll
13. North Dakota State 3-1 333 T18
14. Cal-Poly 3-1 301 22 - ?? Below Montana?
15. New Hampshire 2-2 285 T18
16. Georgia Southern 3-1 270 24 - Too low
17. Eastern Washington 2-2 231 10 - ?? Below Montana?
18. Texas State 3-1 215 23
19. Illinois State 3-1 171 25
20. Youngstown State 3-1 146 NR
21. Elon 1-3 120 11 - WHY???
22. Northern Iowa 1-2 116 15 - WHY?
T23. Furman 2-1 78 NR
T23. Southern Illinois 1-3 78 13 - WHY??
25. Central Arkansas 3-1 71 NR - Too low
Others receiving votes (points in parentheses): Liberty (58), Northern Arizona (54), McNeese State (53), Western Illinois (50), Alabama State (35), Southeast Missouri State (34), Penn (27), South Dakota (27), Wofford (17), South Dakota State (10), Grambling (10), Morgan State (7), Weber State (7), Brown (6), Jacksonville (4), Sacramento State (3), Harvard (2), Missouri State (2), Arkansas-Pine Bluff (1), Robert Morris (1)

It's week 4 and they've still got FOUR 1-win teams in their poll???

Another poll with 4-5 BS teams in it.

Northern Iowa is just about right. They beat a ranked FCS, barely lost to another and got beat, albeit bad, to an FBS that they statistically demolished.

Z, put on your thinkin cap before you post with the adults here.

I don't see why UNI being in the poll is an issue.

They beat a top 25 team, and lost to a top 10 team & an FBS team.

Montana has lost to two top 25 teams and beat an FCS team getting votes but no one thinks they shouldn't be in the poll.

siuham wrote:I don't see why UNI being in the poll is an issue.

They beat a top 25 team, and lost to a top 10 team & an FBS team.

Montana has lost to two top 25 teams and beat an FCS team getting votes but no one thinks they shouldn't be in the poll.

UNI, SIU and Montana are going to be very good teams by season's end.

D1B wrote:

siuham wrote:I don't see why UNI being in the poll is an issue.

They beat a top 25 team, and lost to a top 10 team & an FBS team.

Montana has lost to two top 25 teams and beat an FCS team getting votes but no one thinks they shouldn't be in the poll.

UNI, SIU and Montana are going to be very good teams by season's end.

Agreed. I haven't saw SIU or Montana games, but I can only see them getting better.

SIU is missing some very key players at this point, and any team would struggle with their injury situation.

UNI needs to hold on to the ball and will be fine

Montana needs to get "comfortable" in their system

siuham wrote:I don't see why UNI being in the poll is an issue.

They beat a top 25 team, and lost to a top 10 team & an FBS team.

Montana has lost to two top 25 teams and beat an FCS team getting votes but no one thinks they shouldn't be in the poll.

Its not an issue for most. There is only one idiot here that cannot comprehend the facts.

The problem with SIU is that the playoffs have started now for them. They have to win every single game from here on out.

DJH wrote:The problem with SIU is that the playoffs have started now for them. They have to win every single game from here on out.

That will either be really good or really really bad for them.

I did some looking, and the reason UNI has lost the two games they have is very fixable:
RED-ZONE SCORES (4-12) 33%
RED-ZONE TOUCHDOWNS (1-12) 8%
FUMBLES-LOST 8-7

Out of the red-zone trips and our fumbles, I think we have lost 6 in the red-zone. We hold on to the ball and wow.

D1B wrote:UNI, SIU and Montana are going to be very good teams by season's end.

I can see UNI and UM, but I'm not seeing it with SIU. I can easily see them going 4-7 this year.

DJH wrote:

siuham wrote:I don't see why UNI being in the poll is an issue.

They beat a top 25 team, and lost to a top 10 team & an FBS team.

Montana has lost to two top 25 teams and beat an FCS team getting votes but no one thinks they shouldn't be in the poll.

Its not an issue for most. There is only one idiot here that cannot comprehend the facts.

Fact: We are entering week 5 of the season
Fact: UNI is a 1-win team.
Fact: UNI hasn't won a game since 9/11
Fact: UNI has lost two straight games
Fact: NDSU wasn't top 10 when they beat UNI
Fact: Montana's losses were on the road, UNI's only victory was at home
Fact: UNI lost to SFA at HOME
Fact: I had UNI at #26 in my poll this week

You stay classy, DJH.

Would you quit crying if I promise to put UNI in my top 25 if they win next week? Probably not.

Teams should be ranked according to how they have performed SO FAR THIS YEAR and should have very little to do with what their injury situation is, how good they will be by the end of the year, how good they were last year, how many National Championships they've won, their reputation, how many players they send to the NFL, where their cheerleading squad ranks or how big their stadium is...it should be performance based on the results of this years games only. That's why the polls up until week 5 or 6 are rather lame at best and sometimes laughable at worst.

Nice to have a playoff.......

AZGrizFan wrote:

DJH wrote:
Its not an issue for most. There is only one idiot here that cannot comprehend the facts.

Fact: We are entering week 5 of the season
Fact: UNI is a 1-win team.
Fact: UNI hasn't won a game since 9/11
Fact: UNI has lost two straight games
Fact: NDSU wasn't top 10 when they beat UNI
Fact: Montana's losses were on the road, UNI's only victory was at home
Fact: UNI lost to SFA at HOME
Fact: I had UNI at #26 in my poll this week

You stay classy, DJH.

Would you quit crying if I promise to put UNI in my top 25 if they win next week? Probably not.

UNI has played 1 less game than almost everybody else. Only a dumbass wouldn't take that into consideration when saying "they only have 1 win."

We would have 2 wins if we would have played an NAIA school like Montana did.

Montana has lost two games in a row as well.

Why does it matter if NDSU was top 15 when we beat them? Fact is, they are now, and we beat them pretty easily.

Really it should come down to this, what is more impressive, beating NDSU or barely beating Sac St?

Az: NDSU lost to UNI and they're in the top 25. Now and then. SFA is the top 10 team UNI lost to. Both teams Montana lost to have since lost and the only teams Montana has defeated include a team just outside the top 25 and a lower division team. Do a little more research before you post things that are blatantly obvious.

DJH wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Fact: We are entering week 5 of the season
Fact: UNI is a 1-win team.
Fact: UNI hasn't won a game since 9/11
Fact: UNI has lost two straight games
Fact: NDSU wasn't top 10 when they beat UNI
Fact: Montana's losses were on the road, UNI's only victory was at home
Fact: UNI lost to SFA at HOME
Fact: I had UNI at #26 in my poll this week

You stay classy, DJH.

Would you quit crying if I promise to put UNI in my top 25 if they win next week? Probably not.

UNI has played 1 less game than almost everybody else. Only a dumbass wouldn't take that into consideration when saying "they only have 1 win."

We would have 2 wins if we would have played an NAIA school like Montana did.

Montana has lost two games in a row as well.

Why does it matter if NDSU was top 15 when we beat them? Fact is, they are now, and we beat them pretty easily.

Really it should come down to this, what is more impressive, beating NDSU or barely beating Sac St?

And when Montana had lost 2 in a row they weren't in my poll. See how that works?

Case closed.

Go away.

You need to worry less about where UNI is relative to Montana in the poll and hope to fucking GOD that UNI starts winning some games.

siuham wrote:Az: NDSU lost to UNI and they're in the top 25. Now and then. SFA is the top 10 team UNI lost to. Both teams Montana lost to have since lost and the only teams Montana has defeated include a team just outside the top 25 and a lower division team. Do a little more research before you post things that are blatantly obvious.

I used YOUR research, Einstein. I never said NDSU wasn't in the top 25. I said they weren't top 10. Neither was SFA when they beat UNI.

AZGrizFan wrote:

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:I had Elon in the bottom five of mine. Can't go solely on record. Elon has a FBS loss and lost to top 15 Richmond and #16 GSU. A lot of this is going to shake itself out. If Elon does not deserve to be ranked they won't be at the end of the year. These things should not even be done for the first five or six weeks. If this thing has not worked itself out by October 11th then I will really start to complain. It's still too early to know for sure if a 1-2 team should or should not be ranked. Still have not seen enough league games in my opinion.

And that's Richmond's ONLY win, and it took OT to do it--AT HOME. I watched the Elon/GSU game on reply. Elon got absolutely WORKED in that game. They have one win, over a Division II school. Neither should be ranked, in my opinion.

I could not agree with you more sir. I watched the Elon-GSU game on TV, because I couldn't make it down to Statesboro, and it was awful. We gave up over 500 yards including 379 on the ground. We just looked bad.

Honest to God. DJH, you're like that little kid who just keeps stomping his feet until he gets what he wants. You act like I have Montana in the top 5. There are currently SIX spots separating Montana and UNI in my poll. Your team has lost two games in a row. When Montana was in that same position, they WERE NOT IN MY POLL. Christ, they had to WIN to get up to #20. And seriously, if you don't see that after #8-9 in the poll everything else is just a crapshoot then it's YOU who are an idiot, dumbass, retarded motherfucker.

I've never seen anyone who is so hung up on where his team is ranked.

I think I might just keep UNI out of my poll all year just to spite your sorry ass.

AZGrizFan wrote:Honest to God. DJH, you're like that little kid who just keeps stomping his feet until he gets what he wants. You act like I have Montana in the top 5. There are currently SIX spots separating Montana and UNI in my poll. Your team has lost two games in a row. When Montana was in that same position, they WERE NOT IN MY POLL. Christ, they had to WIN to get up to #20. And seriously, if you don't see that after #8-9 in the poll everything else is just a crapshoot then it's YOU who are an idiot, dumbass, retarded motherfucker.

I've never seen anyone who is so hung up on where his team is ranked.

I think I might just keep UNI out of my poll all year just to spite your sorry ass.