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The renovation on pge park (where the Portland State Vikings play) has started and will make PGE Park a great place to watch mls soccer and Viking football. This indirectly makes the BSC football better bc PSU no longer plays in a baseball stadium. The stadium will add east sideline seating, snack bar, team stores, has already added field turf & will add a new Jumbotron/video replay board & lcd ribbon....ect.

BSC teams with field turf:
UM
MSU
NAU
EWU
PSU

BSC teams with video replay board
UM
MSU
NAU
PSU
EWU
WSU

BSC teams with 15k+ capacity
UM
MSU
PSU
NAU
SAC
WSU

BSC teams with no track around stadiums
UM
MSU
PSU
NAU
ISU

Good to see ya BF. I remember seeing the renderings of that project a while back and it should look really f'n good when it's done.

Glad to see that you are out on bail BF.

I think every conference should do this check list to see how well every conference is stepping up.

MVFC teams with field turf:
Illinois State
Indiana State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa
Southern Illinois
Youngstown State

That leaves NDSU, SDSU (who I believe is getting it) and WIU without it.


MVC teams with video replay board - pretty sure every school does
ISUR
ISUB
MSU
NDSU
UNI
SDSU
SIU
WIU
YSU


MVC teams with 15k+ capacity - only Indiana State doesn't
ISUR
MSU
NDSU
UNI
SDSU
SIU
WIU
YSU

MVC teams with no track around stadiums
ISUR
ISUB
NDSU
UNI
YSU

Yes SDSU will be getting Field Turf, it's just a matter of when.

Missouri State and Western Ill are the only MVFC stadiums with a track.

Great West:

Teams with Field Turf:
UC Davis

Natural grass: Cal Poly and SUU
Synthetic: UND and USD

Teams with Video Boards:

Cal Poly
UC Davis
UND
USD

Only SUU does not

Teams with 15K +:

None

UND 13,500
Cal Poly 11,500
UC Davis 10,000
USD 10,000
SUU 8,500

Teams with no track around stadium:

Cal Poly
UC Davis
UND
USD

SUU has a track.

Idaho State has a video board.

Uh, BF, Sac is presently installing FieldTurf over my strenuous objections. Of course, as the only Hornet fan with such objections, I have been ignored. In fact, the installation may well be complete.

SuperHornet wrote:Uh, BF, Sac is presently installing FieldTurf over my strenuous objections. Of course, as the only Hornet fan with such objections, I have been ignored. In fact, the installation may well be complete.

Are you blocking the video board?

Video boards are cool. I just object to high knee and heat injury rates seen with artificial turf. We will lose dates the field could have hosted during the summer unless the events are night-friendly because the field will be too hot (hotter than outside the stadium). Studies of local HS stadia that installed various types of artificial turf bear that out, but my Hornet compatriots are in denial.

SuperHornet wrote:Video boards are cool. I just object to high knee and heat injury rates seen with artificial turf. We will lose dates the field could have hosted during the summer unless the events are night-friendly because the field will be too hot (hotter than outside the stadium). Studies of local HS stadia that installed various types of artificial turf bear that out, but my Hornet compatriots are in denial.

Please link to a peer-reviewed journal article which says this. Everything I've read has a similar level of injury in both grass and turf, with a lot of independent studies of just one conflicting with each other. Studies that directly compare the two show no statistically significant difference, some linked below. Only Ekstrand, et al. showed a higher incidence of ankle sprains on turf, but their study had a very small sample size, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

http://www.parks.sfgov.org/wcm_recpark/ ... etal08.pdf

http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/32/7/1626.full.pdf+html

http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/32/7/1626.full.pdf+html

DukeJack wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Video boards are cool. I just object to high knee and heat injury rates seen with artificial turf. We will lose dates the field could have hosted during the summer unless the events are night-friendly because the field will be too hot (hotter than outside the stadium). Studies of local HS stadia that installed various types of artificial turf bear that out, but my Hornet compatriots are in denial.

Please link to a peer-reviewed journal article which says this. Everything I've read has a similar level of injury in both grass and turf, with a lot of independent studies of just one conflicting with each other. Studies that directly compare the two show no statistically significant difference, some linked below. Only Ekstrand, et al. showed a higher incidence of ankle sprains on turf, but their study had a very small sample size, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

http://www.parks.sfgov.org/wcm_recpark/ ... etal08.pdf

http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/32/7/1626.full.pdf+html

http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/32/7/1626.full.pdf+html

DukeJack nails it. There IS NOT a higher rate of injury on the new stuff. There may have been on the old shit that was laid over concrete but not the field turf. The heat issue may be a problem for some states but it is more beneficially in the Montana climate than a detraction and if we're talking about a dome then it is not an issue at all.

The heat is only an issue in states like Arizona, Texas, Louisana, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and George between the months of July-September. There have so many advancements in terms of gear keeping people cool, water/gatorade requirements, fans/misters, etc... the last 10 years that the heat is almost a non issue if it is handled correctly.


The injury rate on the old turf had nothing to do with the turf it self, and the fact it was mostly laid over concrete/other hard surface with little or no padding under it.

Glad to see the upgrades at PGE happening. I think it'll be a nice venue once complete - less baseballish than the current configuration.

EWURanger wrote:Glad to see the upgrades at PGE happening. I think it'll be a nice venue once complete - less baseballish than the current configuration.

Oh yea.. Its gonna be sweet, I LOVE pge park and with these renovations it wll be a legit Div1fb venue.

And PSU is gonna be a better team bc of it. U Mark those words ya bastard!

I have not been able to get behind the city of Portland's plan to turn PGE Park into a soccer stadium due to my own beliefs of displacing the baseball team, however I cannot deny the improvements will benefit greatly the PSU football program.

I'll play along for laughs
SWAC:

Teams with Field Turf:
Alabama State
Southern (this season)

Teams with Artificial Turf:
Texas Southern (Delmar Stadium)

Natural grass:
Alabama A&M
Alcorn St
Grambling
Jackson St
Prairie View
UAPB

Teams with Video Boards:

Jackson State
Southern

Teams with 15K +:

Alabama A&M 21,000
Alabama St 21,800
Alcorn St 22,500
Jackson St 62,000
Southern 29,000

Others
Grambling 19,500
Mississippi Valley 10,000
Prairie View 6,000
Texas Southern 12,000
UAPB 12,500

Teams with no track around stadium:

Alabama St
Alabama A&M
Alcorn St
Grambling St
Jackson St
Texas Southern
UAPB


MVSU, Prairie View and Southern have a track.[/quote]

Weber is upgrading the Dee Events Center, and are putting new stadium lights in Stewart Stadium.

I love how Weber is starting to put more money into thier athletics.

clenz wrote:I think every conference should do this check list to see how well every conference is stepping up.

MVFC teams with field turf:
Illinois State
Indiana State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa
Southern Illinois
Youngstown State

That leaves NDSU, SDSU (who I believe is getting it) and WIU without it.


MVC teams with video replay board - pretty sure every school does
ISUR
ISUB
MSU
NDSU
UNI
SDSU
SIU
WIU
YSU


MVC teams with 15k+ capacity - only Indiana State doesn't
ISUR
MSU
NDSU
UNI
SDSU
SIU
WIU
YSU

MVC teams with no track around stadiums
ISUR
ISUB
NDSU
UNI
YSU

SDSU most definently does not have a track around its stadium.