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QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:05 am
by green&gold75
No 2 QBs are the same. Hypothetically, though:
You have 2 QBs competing for the starting role in the upcoming season. In terms of everything that matters to you as the coach, they are a dead heat. Neither has college game experience. Only difference---one is a rising senior, the other a redshirt freshman. Do you go with the senior, thinking that in case of major injury your program with be ok at the position the following season etc, or does the upside of a potential 4 year starter lead you to go with the younger player? Any thoughts?

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:10 am
by bandl
green&gold75 wrote:No 2 QBs are the same. Hypothetically, though:
You have 2 QBs competing for the starting role in the upcoming season. In terms of everything that matters to you as the coach, they are a dead heat. Neither has college game experience. Only difference---one is a rising senior, the other a redshirt freshman. Do you go with the senior, thinking that in case of major injury your program with be ok at the position the following season etc, or does the upside of a potential 4 year starter lead you to go with the younger player? Any thoughts?
The freshman, 4 year starter. If the rising senior didn't have what it takes during his first few years there to start, why would I think he has what it takes now? I'd rather put in the youngin' and let him learn from experience.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:46 am
by danefan
All other things being equal, I would absolutely go with the Freshman first.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:52 am
by ASUG8
Yep, go with the Freshman - worked out pretty good for Jerry Moore. :nod:

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:24 am
by jcmanson
It depends on the team. If it’s a relatively young team, then the freshman. If it’s a team that’s prepared to make a playoff run then the senior.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:30 pm
by tampajag
I'll go with the freshman, you set a better foundation for the future and you won't have to worry about a new QB for the next season. All the best QB's at Southern (for what that's worth) have been guys that started early in their careers and developed to be a cornerstone of the team.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:56 pm
by CatMom
jcmanson wrote:If it’s a team that’s prepared to make a playoff run then the senior.
So what if you have a true Soph with game experience (even against a tough FBS team) and a RS freshman that ran your scout team last year? They have diff skill sets and you have a new OC that wants to run wildcats. The soph is great at wildcats and is a dual threat, the RS is untested but showed great stuff in spring drills?


sorry for the late edit :oops:

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:57 pm
by danefan
CatMom wrote:So what if you have a true Soph with game experience (even against a tough FBS team) and a RS freshman that ran your scout team last year? They have diff skill sets and you have a new OC that wants to run wildcats. The soph is great at wildcats and is a dual threat, the RS is untested but showed great stuff in spring drills?
True soph. A 1 year difference in eligibility isn't enough to make a difference to me.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:00 pm
by CatMom
OOPs, my bad, the soph is a RS soph, not a true soph (was thinking of one of our RBs)

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:01 pm
by danefan
CatMom wrote:OOPs, my bad, the soph is a RS soph, not a true soph (was thinking of one of our RBs)
Either way, he's still got only 1 less year of eligibility than a RS freshman.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:15 pm
by GoRacer1
Go with the young gun.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:06 pm
by SuperHornet
I go with the senior. I generally don't trust youngsters to have the maturity to handle the job. Occasionally, a kid will prove me wrong. But until proven otherwise, I go with age.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:11 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Well that seals it for me, go with the Freshman

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:28 am
by tribe_pride
75 - Was Archer competing against a RS freshman this past year? The Tribe obviously started Archer this year and they did well with him only starting as QB this past year. Just don't remember if he was competing against a RS Frosh for that spot.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:47 am
by andy7171
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Well that seals it for me, go with the Freshman
:lol:
I was about to post the same thing as SH did, but saw who posted it and decided to just not post and avoid the whole awkwardness of agreeing with they.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:50 am
by bandl
SuperHornet wrote:I go with the senior. I generally don't trust youngsters to have the maturity to handle the job. Occasionally, a kid will prove me wrong. But until proven otherwise, I go with age.
Where was his maturity the last 3 years? Like I said before, if he didn't have what it takes before (such as maturity), what makes you think he has it now?

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:09 am
by andy7171
bandl wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:I go with the senior. I generally don't trust youngsters to have the maturity to handle the job. Occasionally, a kid will prove me wrong. But until proven otherwise, I go with age.
Where was his maturity the last 3 years? Like I said before, if he didn't have what it takes before (such as maturity), what makes you think he has it now?
What if he was stuck behind another 3-4 year starter?
In that case I would start the senior because he put his time in for the team.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:13 am
by bandl
andy7171 wrote:
bandl wrote:
Where was his maturity the last 3 years? Like I said before, if he didn't have what it takes before (such as maturity), what makes you think he has it now?
What if he was stuck behind another 3-4 year starter?
In that case I would start the senior because he put his time in for the team.
Apparently that doesn't matter to G&G75.
"In terms of everything that matters to you as the coach, they are a dead heat. Neither has college game experience."
I wish you new how two reed better.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:44 am
by andy7171
bandl wrote:
andy7171 wrote: What if he was stuck behind another 3-4 year starter?
In that case I would start the senior because he put his time in for the team.
Apparently that doesn't matter to G&G75.
"In terms of everything that matters to you as the coach, they are a dead heat. Neither has college game experience."
I wish you new how two reed better.
If he has no game experience, then he had to be stuck behind QBs on the depth chart.

Senior.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:46 am
by bandl
andy7171 wrote:
bandl wrote: Apparently that doesn't matter to G&G75.
"In terms of everything that matters to you as the coach, they are a dead heat. Neither has college game experience."
I wish you new how two reed better.
If he has no game experience, then he had to be stuck behind QBs on the depth chart.

Senior.
I'm beginning to see why you went to Towson College.

Re: QB age.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:00 pm
by andy7171
It was only a matter of time before you went there.

The senior has a thicker skin from years of backing up and running the scout team. Start him, if he fails accepting the bench again won't hurt. Whereas if you start the freshamn and he fails, benching him might ruin him his next three years
If both fail, you'll be out of a job because of incometant recruiting.