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Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:58 pm
by dbackjon
What all affects do this decisions have???
For one, travel costs for the remaining CAA North schools have increased, as two bus trip are gone.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:59 pm
by dbackjon
Almost three hundred mile gsp from northern most south team to Southern most north team
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:03 pm
by wideright82
CAA is now stronger overall than the MAC conference.... soon to be overtaken? Conference USA.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:25 pm
by danefan
Reading some guys twitter now who is listening in on the conference call with Comish Yeager:
http://twitter.com/keithlavon
The guy is affiliated with Northeastern who is retyping the quotes.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:25 pm
by putter
stronger, definitely and I think that you may see the two divisions eliminated, at least for now. When ODU and GSU come in the conference will have to realign.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:27 pm
by danefan
CAA Commish Yeager- "I can't move Williamsburg Virginia any close to Orono Maine, It's one of the things that comes into the discussion"
CAA Commish Yeager- rough quote; if the northeastern schools can get nine teams together than it may make sense to go separate
CAA Commish Yeager- "We have not [asked for commitment from other northern schools]"
CAA Commish Yeager- "If for no other reason than the travel [other northern teams might reconsider]"
CAA Commish Yeager- "I believe [northern schools] are still committed"
CAA Commish Yeager- "There really hasn't been any discussion about "hey are there any other teams out there that might be good candidates""
CAA Commish Yeager- rough quote; discussions for expansion may come down the road
CAA Commish Yeager- "I didn't think before the last 72 hours that the discussion of this magnitude was even in play at Hofstra"
CAA Commish Yeager- "Our plan going forward is that next year we will have 10 teams in the league and will have no divisions"
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:33 pm
by putter
Wow, pretty amazing that Hofstra didn't even let the commish know what they were planning to do...

Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:37 pm
by ∞∞∞
By the way Hofstra fans have talked about their administration, don't be surprised that they didn't let the CAA know. They barely let their own donors know anything, let alone the conference.
Man, how many avatars am I gonna have to make lol?!
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:01 pm
by danefan
Another potential fall-out of this is more schools discussing with their financial woes amongst each other.
I know this is already happening.
There are currently two proposals being floated amongst FCS schools, one of which would change FCS in a huge way.....
They are (i) lowering the FBS counter rules to 50 scholarships (From 90% of 63) and (ii) lowering the maximum number of scholarships allowed from 63 to 50 for FCS schools.
Neither has been officially proposed in the NCAA council, but they are being floated members to FCS and FBS schools.
The latter will cause a major shakeup and would push about 10 or so schools to try and jump to FBS sooner rather than later.
What I do know is that there are a lot of schools struggling to make ends meet right now.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:32 pm
by putter
Dropping the 63 down to 50. I would think, for schools that have a quality program, your scenario of making a early move up would be correct. I could see the top schools in every major FCS conference doing it.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:32 pm
by BlueHen86
Let's all hope that this stops with Northeastern and Hofstra. I'm worried that we'll see more schools drop football in the next few years.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:34 pm
by danefan
putter wrote:Dropping the 63 down to 50. I would think, for schools that have a quality program, your scenario of making a early move up would be correct. I could see the top schools in every major FCS conference doing it.
Assuming the FBS schools don't put the kabash on that with another moratorium or a de fact restriction.
There was talk of a $1 million application fee for moving up a few months ago.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:37 pm
by dbackjon
So no full CAA schools in the north
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:37 pm
by Captain Ahab
Aye! Tha scuttlebutt about tha crew be that URI be tha next ta fall. Dreary days these be fer tha fellers to tha Nort.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:47 pm
by JayJ79
get rid of a couple more, and the CAA will be a normal sized conference almost.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:17 pm
by Col Hogan
Captain Ahab wrote:Aye! Tha scuttlebutt about tha crew be that URI be tha next ta fall. Dreary days these be fer tha fellers to tha Nort.
URI will not drop football this year...
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:13 pm
by green&gold75
Feel crummy for all concerned in the Hofstra and Northeastern communities. Regarding the student atheletes---are they eligible to play next year elsewhere? If so, will ODU coaching staff be getting frequent flyer miles in northeast corridor in weeks ahead?
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:46 pm
by dbackjon
They can transfer without penalty
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:21 pm
by BlueHen86
JayJ79 wrote:get rid of a couple more, and the CAA will be a normal sized conference almost.
We should all hope that more CAA schools drop football just so the CAA will be a "normal sized conference".
All of FCS will benefit.

Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:16 pm
by FargoBison
danefan wrote:Another potential fall-out of this is more schools discussing with their financial woes amongst each other.
I know this is already happening.
There are currently two proposals being floated amongst FCS schools, one of which would change FCS in a huge way.....
They are (i) lowering the FBS counter rules to 50 scholarships (From 90% of 63) and (ii) lowering the maximum number of scholarships allowed from 63 to 50 for FCS schools.
Neither has been officially proposed in the NCAA council, but they are being floated members to FCS and FBS schools.
The latter will cause a major shakeup and would push about 10 or so schools to try and jump to FBS sooner rather than later.
What I do know is that there are a lot of schools struggling to make ends meet right now.
That could force entire conferences out of the FCS. I could see the MVFC looking hard at making the jump if that happened.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:41 am
by kemajic
FargoBison wrote:danefan wrote:Another potential fall-out of this is more schools discussing with their financial woes amongst each other.
I know this is already happening.
There are currently two proposals being floated amongst FCS schools, one of which would change FCS in a huge way.....
They are (i) lowering the FBS counter rules to 50 scholarships (From 90% of 63) and (ii) lowering the maximum number of scholarships allowed from 63 to 50 for FCS schools.
Neither has been officially proposed in the NCAA council, but they are being floated members to FCS and FBS schools.
The latter will cause a major shakeup and would push about 10 or so schools to try and jump to FBS sooner rather than later.
What I do know is that there are a lot of schools struggling to make ends meet right now.
That could force entire conferences out of the FCS. I could see the MVFC looking hard at making the jump if that happened.
Interesting. NDSU might have been competitive back in its old DII home. Doubt they could have handled NAIA Sioux Falls, however.
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:17 pm
by SuperHornet
dbackjon wrote:They can transfer without penalty
I'll vouch for that. Many of our guys did that when UOP dropped their program after the '95 season.
At least the NE and Hofstra coaches have three or more weeks than the UOP coaches did to find jobs. The school dropped the axe on us less than a week before Christamas and didn't even bother to call the team in to tell them. Most of us found out on the evening news while the coaches were out recruiting. What a cr@ppy way to do it, too. During semester break when nobody's around to protest.
The one good thing UOP did was that they honored schollies for those that had them if they chose to stay AND if they came back after finishing their eligibility elsewhere. Is there any word on what NE and Hofstra are doing about that?
Re: Effect of Hofstra/Northeastern dropping football
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:38 pm
by dbackjon
Both schools will honor the schollies of those that choose to stay