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EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:26 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
Eagles are playing for the postseason, the Jacks are playing for pride and to end the skid (both in the season, and against EWU in the series). Who wants it more?

The Last 6 Meetings: (odd# years @NAU, even# @EWU)
2008: Eastern Washington 28, Northern Arizona 13
2007: Eastern Washington 52, Northern Arizona 24
2006: Northern Arizona 44, Eastern Washington 36
2005: Eastern Washington 42, Northern Arizona 14
2004: Eastern Washington 45, #16 Northern Arizona 14
2003: Northern Arizona 54, Eastern Washington 31

My Eagles have been playing lights out on offense the last two and a half games, defense has been good, but needs to be shored up a little after giving up 345 through the air last week (despite going up against the 12th ranked passing offense in FCS), and 416 of total offense. Should be another hard-fought game, but I think EWU comes out on top in this win yet again. :nod:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:40 pm
by clenz
I got NAU

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:56 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
clenz wrote:I got NAU
I got ISU. :roll:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:02 pm
by clenz
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
clenz wrote:I got NAU
I got ISU. :roll:
That's a dumb pick to make.

NAU will win.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
GO LUMBERJACKS

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
clenz wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
I got ISU. :roll:
That's a dumb pick to make.

NAU will win.
:orly:

NAU: 5-5. ISU: 5-5

EWU @ NAU. UNI @ ISU.



Prepare for crow Saturday.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:26 pm
by dbackjon
I called a 6-5 season fr NAU in August

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:30 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
dbackjon wrote:I called a 6-5 season fr NAU in August
And after Saturday, you'll be right. :thumb:





















If you count moral victories. :rofl:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:43 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... 2#more5832
Big Sky Issues Suspension To Northern Arizona Player

The Big Sky Conference has suspended Northern Arizona football player Matt Estrada for an illegal hit in last Saturday’s game against Weber State, the league announced Wednesday.

Estrada, a junior safety from LaHabra, Calif., will serve a one-game suspension this Saturday when Northern Arizona plays host to Eastern Washington.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:21 pm
by native
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:...My Eagles have been playing lights out on offense the last two and a half games, defense has been good, but needs to be shored up a little after giving up 345 through the air last week (despite going up against the 12th ranked passing offense in FCS), and 416 of total offense. Should be another hard-fought game, but I think EWU comes out on top in this win yet again. :nod:
I have the Eagles favored in a close game, in part due to the Jerome Souers/NAU end-of-season-meltdown-curse.

You are correct that the Eastern Washington defense needs some help. The Eagles will certainly be challenged in the air by Northern Arizona's Michael Herrick, and on the ground by Alex Henderson. The only times the EWU defense has encountered a combined air and ground attack as potent as NAU's were the 13-31 loss to Weber State and the 34-41 loss to Montana.

However, I would disagree that the Eagles' offensive performances against the bottom-of-the-barrel defenses of Portland State (#108 in the FCS) and Southern Utah (#115 in the FCS) could be characterized as "lights out."

True, EWU came from behind to prevail against Montana State's excellent defense, ranked 62nd in the FCS, but the Bobcats were hobbled at the time by injuries to key players. The black-and-red did not fare so well in back-to-back losses against the Montana (68th) or Weber State (84th) defenses, and will most likely not have such an easy time on the road against Northern Arizona's 94th-ranked defensive squad.

10/10 Weber State 4-2 (3-1) L 31-13
10/17 @ Montana 4-3 (3-2) L 41-34

10/24 Montana State 5-3 (4-2) W 35-24
10/31 Portland State 6-3 (5-2) W 47-10
11/14 @ Southern Utah 7-3 (5-2) W 41-28

If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:00 pm
by kalm
native wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:...My Eagles have been playing lights out on offense the last two and a half games, defense has been good, but needs to be shored up a little after giving up 345 through the air last week (despite going up against the 12th ranked passing offense in FCS), and 416 of total offense. Should be another hard-fought game, but I think EWU comes out on top in this win yet again. :nod:
I have the Eagles favored in a close game, in part due to the Jerome Souers/NAU end-of-season-meltdown-curse.

You are correct that the Eastern Washington defense needs some help. The Eagles will certainly be challenged in the air by Northern Arizona's Michael Herrick, and on the ground by Alex Henderson. The only times the EWU defense has encountered a combined air and ground attack as potent as NAU's were the 13-31 loss to Weber State and the 34-41 loss to Montana.

However, I would disagree that the Eagles' offensive performances against the bottom-of-the-barrel defenses of Portland State (#108 in the FCS) and Southern Utah (#115 in the FCS) could be characterized as "lights out."

True, EWU came from behind to prevail against Montana State's excellent defense, ranked 62nd in the FCS, but the Bobcats were hobbled at the time by injuries to key payers. The black-and-red did not fare so well in back-to-back losses against the Montana (68th) or Weber State (84th) defenses, and will most likely not have such an easy time on the road against Northern Arizona's 94th-ranked defensive squad.

10/10 Weber State 4-2 (3-1) L 31-13
10/17 @ Montana 4-3 (3-2) L 41-34

10/24 Montana State 5-3 (4-2) W 35-24
10/31 Portland State 6-3 (5-2) W 47-10
11/14 @ Southern Utah 7-3 (5-2) W 41-28

If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.

Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

And we put up 489 and 34 points against Montana, outgaining the Griz by 140 yards.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:46 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
kalm wrote:
native wrote:
I have the Eagles favored in a close game, in part due to the Jerome Souers/NAU end-of-season-meltdown-curse.

You are correct that the Eastern Washington defense needs some help. The Eagles will certainly be challenged in the air by Northern Arizona's Michael Herrick, and on the ground by Alex Henderson. The only times the EWU defense has encountered a combined air and ground attack as potent as NAU's were the 13-31 loss to Weber State and the 34-41 loss to Montana.

However, I would disagree that the Eagles' offensive performances against the bottom-of-the-barrel defenses of Portland State (#108 in the FCS) and Southern Utah (#115 in the FCS) could be characterized as "lights out."

True, EWU came from behind to prevail against Montana State's excellent defense, ranked 62nd in the FCS, but the Bobcats were hobbled at the time by injuries to key payers. The black-and-red did not fare so well in back-to-back losses against the Montana (68th) or Weber State (84th) defenses, and will most likely not have such an easy time on the road against Northern Arizona's 94th-ranked defensive squad.

10/10 Weber State 4-2 (3-1) L 31-13
10/17 @ Montana 4-3 (3-2) L 41-34

10/24 Montana State 5-3 (4-2) W 35-24
10/31 Portland State 6-3 (5-2) W 47-10
11/14 @ Southern Utah 7-3 (5-2) W 41-28

If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.

Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

And we put up 489 and 34 points against Montana, outgaining the Griz by 140 yards.
Beat me to it. Not to mention 145 yards on the ground for Jones against the Griz' highly ranked run-defense. We lost to Weber due to turnovers and lost to Montana due to bad special teams play (9pts).

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:29 am
by kalm
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... 2#more5832
Big Sky Issues Suspension To Northern Arizona Player

The Big Sky Conference has suspended Northern Arizona football player Matt Estrada for an illegal hit in last Saturday’s game against Weber State, the league announced Wednesday.

Estrada, a junior safety from LaHabra, Calif., will serve a one-game suspension this Saturday when Northern Arizona plays host to Eastern Washington.
According to this morning's Spokesman Review, Estrada is the Jack's leading tackler, so I assume this a pretty significant loss. How's his backup dbackjon?

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:34 am
by native
Native wrote:...
If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.
kalm wrote:...
Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

...
Um... 253 of the Eagles' total of 389 yards against the Wildcats were in the 4th quarter with the game already sewn up. Winning the battle of the trenches was what made Weber's defense look really good against Eastern Washington. The result of Weber's defensive performance was 4 sacks, 3 additional tackles for a loss, 3 interceptions, holding Taiwan Jones to 64 yards on the ground, and holding the EWU offense to only 139 total yards through the end of the 3rd quarter. The two lost fumbles and two-thirds of the EWU air yardage occurred in the 4th quarter when Eastern Washington was behind by 18 points and the game was already sealed.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:58 am
by kalm
native wrote:
kalm wrote:...

If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.

Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

...
Um... 253 of the Eagles' total of 389 yards against the Wildcats were in the 4th quarter with the game already sewn up. Winning the battle of the trenches was what made Weber's defense look really good against Eastern Washington. The result of Weber's defensive performance was 4 sacks, 3 additional tackles for a loss, 3 interceptions, holding Taiwan Jones to 64 yards on the ground, and holding the EWU offense to only 139 total yards through the end of the 3rd quarter. The two lost fumbles occurred in the 4th quarter when Eastern Washington was behind by 18 points and the game was already sealed.[/quote]

You guys were terrific in the trenches against us, so were Montana State and Montana. EWU is a finesse team, it has been for a long time. Our m.o. against really good, physical teams is to outscore them. (As an aside, I think this is what we have to change if we're going to take the next step)

Oh yeah, and you still gave up 389 yards of offense. Perhaps you think giving up 389 makes a defense look good, but I would suggest it was holding EWU to 13 points.

You did do a nice job against Jones, but your lead forced us to throw. BTW, after Boyce went out, we quickly learned to include Taiwan more in the passing game, and that next week he shredded the cats in receiving yards.

While the two fumbles inside the 5 occurred in the 4th quarter, we still had three other turnovers earlier in the game, and the last two would have turned an 18 point lead into a 4 point lead. Even if it's garbage time as you suggest, giving up 27 points and 389 yards harldy looks great.

And if you think any game is sewn up by the 4th quarter with an 18 point lead, you haven't watched enough football - especially the Big Sky.

You guys did control the line of scrimmage, ran the ball really well, and took advangage of EWU's mistakes.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:19 pm
by weberwildcat
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
kalm wrote:

Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

And we put up 489 and 34 points against Montana, outgaining the Griz by 140 yards.
Beat me to it. Not to mention 145 yards on the ground for Jones against the Griz' highly ranked run-defense. We lost to Weber due to turnovers and lost to Montana due to bad special teams play (9pts).

im not trying to be a pain the baker but with that same logic weber should be 10-0 right now. ask wsu and they'll tell you it doesnt matter how you lost or how close its still a loss, whether its 1/2 a point or 100 points.

we were a botched snap away from an fbs win
we lost to wyo cuza turnovers
we lost to um cuza turnovers
we lost to msu cuza turnovers

some are still saying UM is overrated, doesn't matter what anyone thinks, 10-0 says enuf.

none of it matters, we all know wsu/nau/ewu/msu are all capable of winning all their games, but it only matters who got the W, the committe doesnt care if you lost a close one to an fbs and lost close games to top fcs teams.

the ewu/nau game is the one im looking forward to most though wsu does need ewu and msu to lose. one would think ewu is the hotter team and should win but this yr's nau isn't the same as last yr's that fell apart the last 4 games.

i will make one prediction: WSU will win by 20 against Cal Poly. WSU never losses in bad weather. It is supposed to snow on Sat again. (if only it snowed during our 4 losses)

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:26 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
weberwildcat wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Beat me to it. Not to mention 145 yards on the ground for Jones against the Griz' highly ranked run-defense. We lost to Weber due to turnovers and lost to Montana due to bad special teams play (9pts).

im not trying to be a pain the baker but with that same logic weber should be 10-0 right now. ask wsu and they'll tell you it doesnt matter how you lost or how close its still a loss, whether its 1/2 a point or 100 points.

we were a botched snap away from an fbs win
we lost to wyo cuza turnovers
we lost to um cuza turnovers
we lost to msu cuza turnovers

none of it matters, we all know wsu/nau/ewu/msu are all capable of winning all their games, but it only matters who got the W, the committe doesnt care if you lost a close one to an fbs and lost close games to top fcs teams.

the ewu/nau game is the one im looking forward to most

i will make one prediction: WSU will win by 20 against Cal Poly. WSU never losses in bad weather. It is supposed to snow on Sat again.
Dude, you completely missed my point. I wasn't making excuses why we lost those games... they're long gone in the history books. I was counterpointing native's assertion that
"The black-and-red did not fare so well in back-to-back losses against the Montana (68th) or Weber State (84th) defenses, and will most likely not have such an easy time on the road against Northern Arizona's 94th-ranked defensive squad."
Using that logic, EWU supposedly should have had a tough time moving the ball against SUU's 110th ranked defense. :roll:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:53 pm
by weberwildcat
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
weberwildcat wrote:

im not trying to be a pain the baker but with that same logic weber should be 10-0 right now. ask wsu and they'll tell you it doesnt matter how you lost or how close its still a loss, whether its 1/2 a point or 100 points.

we were a botched snap away from an fbs win
we lost to wyo cuza turnovers
we lost to um cuza turnovers
we lost to msu cuza turnovers

none of it matters, we all know wsu/nau/ewu/msu are all capable of winning all their games, but it only matters who got the W, the committe doesnt care if you lost a close one to an fbs and lost close games to top fcs teams.

the ewu/nau game is the one im looking forward to most

i will make one prediction: WSU will win by 20 against Cal Poly. WSU never losses in bad weather. It is supposed to snow on Sat again.
Dude, you completely missed my point. I wasn't making excuses why we lost those games... they're long gone in the history books. I was counterpointing native's assertion that
"The black-and-red did not fare so well in back-to-back losses against the Montana (68th) or Weber State (84th) defenses, and will most likely not have such an easy time on the road against Northern Arizona's 94th-ranked defensive squad."
Using that logic, EWU supposedly should have had a tough time moving the ball against SUU's 110th ranked defense. :roll:

LOL

good luck this weekend everyone! it was a fun season regardless of all outcomes! i was fortunate enough to make it to 3 road games and all home games.

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:15 pm
by native
kalm wrote:
native wrote:...

If the Lumberjacks play at home like they played earlier in the season against Montana, the Eagles will have a rough day. If NAU stays true to form and craps out in traditional end-of-season fashion, the Eagles could have a field day.

May the best team win.

Um, we had 354 through the air against WSU. Our 5 turnovers are what made Weber State's defense look really good.

...
native wrote:Um... 253 of the Eagles' total of 389 yards against the Wildcats were in the 4th quarter with the game already sewn up. Winning the battle of the trenches was what made Weber's defense look really good against Eastern Washington. The result of Weber's defensive performance was 4 sacks, 3 additional tackles for a loss, 3 interceptions, holding Taiwan Jones to 64 yards on the ground, and holding the EWU offense to only 139 total yards through the end of the 3rd quarter. The two lost fumbles occurred in the 4th quarter when Eastern Washington was behind by 18 points and the game was already sealed.
kalm wrote:You guys were terrific in the trenches against us, so were Montana State and Montana. EWU is a finesse team, it has been for a long time. Our m.o. against really good, physical teams is to outscore them. (As an aside, I think this is what we have to change if we're going to take the next step)

Oh yeah, and you still gave up 389 yards of offense. Perhaps you think giving up 389 makes a defense look good, but I would suggest it was holding EWU to 13 points.

You did do a nice job against Jones, but your lead forced us to throw. BTW, after Boyce went out, we quickly learned to include Taiwan more in the passing game, and that next week he shredded the cats in receiving yards.

While the two fumbles inside the 5 occurred in the 4th quarter, we still had three other turnovers earlier in the game, and the last two would have turned an 18 point lead into a 4 point lead. Even if it's garbage time as you suggest, giving up 27 points and 389 yards harldy looks great.

And if you think any game is sewn up by the 4th quarter with an 18 point lead, you haven't watched enough football - especially the Big Sky.

You guys did control the line of scrimmage, ran the ball really well, and took advangage of EWU's mistakes.
Interesting analysis of the Eagles' m.o. Points well taken all around. :thumb:

You've got to get that quote thing under control, though. :lol:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:35 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
native wrote:
You've got to get that quote thing under control, though. :lol:
Ummm, did you just look at your post? :lol:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:56 pm
by native
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
native wrote:
You've got to get that quote thing under control, though. :lol:
Ummm, did you just look at your post? :lol:
:lol: :oops:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:56 pm
by EWURanger
This one definitely won't be easy, just as I predicted the SUU game wouldn't. In what should be a high-scoring affair, however, I do believe EWU will have the advantage. Strong Senior leadership in Matt Nichols, Overybay, and others, will be the difference in this one. I don't see Nichols making too many bad decisions, unless we get really far behind early. He will most likely take care of the ball and make some plays. Jones is also a game-breaker, and I feel like playing on the turf favors us in terms of the speed factor. It'll be close, but we'll pull it out.

:thumb:

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:05 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
WTF!? B2TV lists the game at 3:05 PST, instead of the 2:05 PST it's supposed to be (right now), and therefore doesn't have the link up to watch the feed! FUCK!!!

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:08 pm
by EWURanger
Anyone got the audio feed link? Big suck tv is showing the woman's bb feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: EWU @ NAU

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:09 pm
by Obzerver