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Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:15 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
It seems pretty academic at this point w/ Montana's 2 game lead, but things aren't 100% decided. Assuming I've applied the tiebreakers correctly, Montana & MSU are the only teams still mathematically alive for the auto-bid.
MSU - They need 2 wins (including one over UM), a UM loss to UNC, and a Weber win over NAU.
UM - They need anything else: a win or an MSU loss or an NAU win over Weber.
The Bobcats would win a three-way tie with UM & Weber (or a 4-way tie adding in EWU).
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:18 pm
by AZGrizFan
Who wins a three way tie between Montana, NAU and MSU? If NAU wins out they eliminate Weber...NAU would have beaten Montana State, Montana State would have beaten UM and UM would have beaten NAU.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:19 pm
by AZGrizFan
AZGrizFan wrote:Who wins a three way tie between Montana, NAU and MSU? If NAU wins out they eliminate Weber and EWU...NAU would have beaten Montana State, Montana State would have beaten UM and UM would have beaten NAU.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:52 am
by Mvemjsunpx
AZGrizFan wrote:Who wins a three way tie between Montana, NAU and MSU? If NAU wins out they eliminate Weber...NAU would have beaten Montana State, Montana State would have beaten UM and UM would have beaten NAU.
Montana wins it. It would come down to common games. The final standings would look like this (excluding PSU/ISU):
1. Montana ………… 6-2
1. NAU ……………… 6-2
1. Montana St. ….… 6-2
4. Weber …………… 5-3
5. EWU ……………… 5-3
6. Sac ……………..… 4-4
7/8. UNC …………… 2-6
UM's common games disadvantage would be against UNC, MSU's against EWU, and NAU's against Sac. Common games starts at the top, so MSU would be eliminated first and Montana would then beat NAU.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:52 pm
by EWURanger
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Assuming I've applied the tiebreakers correctly, Montana & MSU are the only teams still mathematically alive for the auto-bid.
Uh, how do you figure?
EWU (6-3) remaining schedule:
@SUU
@NAU
MSU (6-3)remaining schedule:
SAC
UM
Assuming both teams win out and finish at 8-3 (big if)......EWU holds the "tie-breaker" over MSU.....how does that mathematically eliminate EWU? Just asking.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:07 pm
by BlackFalkin
EWURanger wrote:Mvemjsunpx wrote:Assuming I've applied the tiebreakers correctly, Montana & MSU are the only teams still mathematically alive for the auto-bid.
Uh, how do you figure?
EWU (6-3) remaining schedule:
@SUU
@NAU
MSU (6-3)remaining schedule:
SAC
UM
Assuming both teams win out and finish at 8-3 (big if)......EWU holds the "tie-breaker" over MSU.....how does that mathematically eliminate EWU? Just asking.
EXACTLY. 
1.If Weber wins out. WSU has it
2.If Weber losses one more. EWU has it
3.If EWU loses one more & MSU & WSU win out. MSU has it.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:16 pm
by GOKATS
BlackFalkin wrote:EWURanger wrote:
Uh, how do you figure?
EWU (6-3) remaining schedule:
@SUU
@NAU
MSU (6-3)remaining schedule:
SAC
UM
Assuming both teams win out and finish at 8-3 (big if)......EWU holds the "tie-breaker" over MSU.....how does that mathematically eliminate EWU? Just asking.
EXACTLY.
1.If Weber wins out. WSU has it
2.If Weber losses one more. EWU has it
3.If EWU loses one more & MSU & WSU win out. MSU has it.
Read the thread title, he's only talking about the auto-bid. Only MSU and UM could tie for the conference championship if UNC beats UM and MSU beats Sac St. and the griz.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:41 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
EWURanger wrote:Mvemjsunpx wrote:Assuming I've applied the tiebreakers correctly, Montana & MSU are the only teams still mathematically alive for the auto-bid.
Uh, how do you figure?
EWU (6-3) remaining schedule:
@SUU
@NAU
MSU (6-3)remaining schedule:
SAC
UM
Assuming both teams win out and finish at 8-3 (big if)......EWU holds the "tie-breaker" over MSU.....how does that mathematically eliminate EWU? Just asking.
BlackFalkin wrote:EWURanger wrote:
Uh, how do you figure?
EWU (6-3) remaining schedule:
@SUU
@NAU
MSU (6-3)remaining schedule:
SAC
UM
Assuming both teams win out and finish at 8-3 (big if)......EWU holds the "tie-breaker" over MSU.....how does that mathematically eliminate EWU? Just asking.
EXACTLY.
1.If Weber wins out. WSU has it
2.If Weber losses one more. EWU has it
3.If EWU loses one more & MSU & WSU win out. MSU has it.
As Go explained you guys are arguing something else entirely. Only UM & MSU have a shot at the autobid at this point.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:54 pm
by BlackFalkin
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Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:08 pm
by BlackFalkin
Heres something I dont understand;
If UM loses its next two
UM 6-2
MSU wins next two
MSU 6-2
Eastern wins next two
EWU 6-2
Weber wins next two
WSU 6-2
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:45 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
BlackFalkin wrote:Heres something I dont understand;
If UM loses its next two
UM 6-2
MSU wins next two
MSU 6-2
Eastern wins next two
EWU 6-2
Weber wins next two
WSU 6-2
Weber and EWU would only have 1 win against the other 3, whereas MSU and UM would have two wins over the other 3. So between those two, MSU would get the autobid due to the head to head.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:13 pm
by GOKATS
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:33 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
Sorry to let you down. I can count all the way to 7. Next year I hope to reach 8.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:28 pm
by Willie
I know these "if" threads pop up every season, but it's a pretty slim chance that Montana won't win the next 2. The Griz are in the playoffs no matter what so it really doesn't matter.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:59 pm
by GOKATS
Willie wrote:I know these "if" threads pop up every season, but it's a pretty slim chance that Montana won't win the next 2. The Griz are in the playoffs no matter what so it really doesn't matter.
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no fucking way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:07 pm
by Willie
GOKATS wrote:Willie wrote:I know these "if" threads pop up every season, but it's a pretty slim chance that Montana won't win the next 2. The Griz are in the playoffs no matter what so it really doesn't matter.
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no fucking way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and
will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:13 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
GOKATS wrote:Willie wrote:I know these "if" threads pop up every season, but it's a pretty slim chance that Montana won't win the next 2. The Griz are in the playoffs no matter what so it really doesn't matter.
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no fucking way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Typical Cat fan response.
Earlier in the year before the season started, the Cat fans were all "No way EWU beats us again, EWU won't put up more than 24 points on us, yada yada. They're always looking forward, because they have nothing to look back on.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:24 pm
by GOKATS
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:GOKATS wrote:
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no fucking way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Typical Cat fan response.
Earlier in the year before the season started, the Cat fans were all "No way EWU beats us again, EWU won't put up more than 24 points on us, yada yada. They're always looking forward, because they have nothing to look back on.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:39 am
by Grizalltheway
GOKATS wrote:Willie wrote:I know these "if" threads pop up every season, but it's a pretty slim chance that Montana won't win the next 2. The Griz are in the playoffs no matter what so it really doesn't matter.
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no fucking way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Oh sweet jesus
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:39 pm
by BlackFalkin
Its sad that the Big Sky has to HOPE & PRAY to get more than one team in the playoffs. btw the first place team is undefeated! What do they want.... 2 undefeated teams in the same conf!?
Oh wait, theres only ONE conf where that can happen.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:51 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
BlackFalkin wrote:Its sad that the Big Sky has to HOPE & PRAY to get more than one team in the playoffs. btw the first place team is undefeated! What do they want.... 2 undefeated teams in the same conf!?
Oh wait, theres only ONE conf where that can happen.
Re: Big Sky Auto-Bid Scenarios
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:44 pm
by SuperHornet
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:GOKATS wrote:
I don't see UNC winning at wa/griz so I'll give you this year. Next year................no **** way, count on it. The griz squeaked too many this year and will get their asses handed to 'em next weekend.
Typical Cat fan response.
Earlier in the year before the season started, the Cat fans were all
"No way EWU beats us again, EWU won't put up more than 24 points on us, yada yada. They're always looking forward, because they have nothing to look back on.
This sounds just like the retro-looking Windows-Mac commercial.
