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I note Kenneth Massey's FCS computer rankings this week. I wonder if this is the first time ever that SUU (15th) has been rated above WSU (16th) in football in any medium.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf (and select Division FCS)

Rank Team W L Rating
(1) Richmond 8 0 1.773
(2) Villanova 7 1 1.743
(3) Montana 8 0 1.698
(4) William & Mary 7 1 1.694
(5) S Illinois 7 1 1.607
(6) S Dakota St 7 1 1.512
(7) Elon 7 1 1.441
(8) New Hampshire 7 1 1.412
(9) Northern Iowa 5 3 1.404
(10) E Washington 6 3 1.259
(11) Appalachian St 6 2 1.254
(12) Delaware 5 3 1.226
(13) N Arizona 5 3 1.191
(14) S Carolina St 7 1 1.186
(15) Southern Utah 4 4 1.186
(16) Weber St 5 4 1.181
(17) James Madison 3 5 1.176
(18) Jacksonville St 5 3 1.167
(19) SF Austin 6 2 1.134
(20) Cal Poly SLO 4 4 1.115
(21) E Illinois 7 2 1.109
(22) Massachusetts 4 4 1.088
(23) Lafayette 7 1 1.073
(24) Liberty 6 2 1.066
(25) Montana St 5 3 1.06
(26) Holy Cross 7 1 1.053
(27) Penn 5 2 1.03
(28) UC Davis 4 4 1.013
(29) McNeese St 6 2 1
(30) Maine 4 4 0.973
(31) Texas St 5 3 0.96
(32) Hofstra 4 4 0.957
(33) Illinois St 4 4 0.947
(34) North Dakota 4 4 0.942
(35) SE Louisiana 5 3 0.93
(36) Cent Arkansas 5 3 0.912
(37) Missouri St 5 4 0.905
(38) Ga Southern 4 4 0.892
(39) Colgate 8 1 0.865
(40) Florida A&M 6 2 0.859
(41) Harvard 5 2 0.846
(42) CS Sacramento 3 5 0.831
(43) Prairie View 5 1 0.829
(44) Central Conn 7 1 0.823
(45) Furman 4 4 0.799
(46) Youngstown St 4 4 0.793
(47) Citadel 4 4 0.79
(48) Brown 4 3 0.755
(49) E Kentucky 5 3 0.754
(50) Grambling 5 3 0.749
(51) Stony Brook 5 4 0.74
(52) Albany NY 6 3 0.726
(53) Chattanooga 5 3 0.708
(54) Tennessee Tech 5 3 0.707
(55) South Dakota 3 5 0.676
(56) N Dakota St 2 7 0.658
(57) Gardner Webb 5 3 0.618
(58) N Colorado 3 6 0.597
(59) Samford 3 5 0.568
(60) Wofford 2 6 0.567
(61) Yale 4 3 0.55
(62) Austin Peay 3 5 0.547
(63) Sam Houston St 4 4 0.546
(64) Portland St 2 7 0.496
(65) Coastal Car 3 5 0.467
(66) Norfolk St 4 4 0.437
(67) Charleston So 3 5 0.425
(68) TN Martin 3 5 0.421
(69) Drake 7 1 0.419
(70) TX Southern 3 4 0.405
(71) Fordham 3 5 0.402
(72) Alabama A&M 5 3 0.4
(73) Northeastern 1 7 0.4
(74) Delaware St 2 5 0.381
(75) Southern Univ 5 3 0.38
(76) Morgan St 5 3 0.363
(77) Columbia 2 5 0.347
(78) Towson 2 6 0.345
(79) Rhode Island 1 7 0.334
(80) W Illinois 1 7 0.308
(81) Monmouth NJ 4 4 0.306
(82) Tennessee St 3 5 0.292
(83) Old Dominion 7 2 0.281
(84) Dartmouth 1 6 0.273
(85) Murray St 2 6 0.252
(86) W Carolina 1 7 0.232
(87) Wagner 5 3 0.21
(88) Bryant 3 5 0.208
(89) Hampton 4 4 0.205
(90) Northwestern LA 0 8 0.174
(91) Dayton 7 1 0.174
(92) Lehigh 2 6 0.168
(93) Princeton 2 5 0.161
(94) VMI 2 6 0.149
(95) Cornell 2 5 0.122
(96) Nicholls St 1 7 0.114
(97) NC A&T 4 4 0.081
(98) Jackson St 2 5 0.081
(99) Alcorn St 2 5 0.073
(100) Bethune-Cookman 3 5 0.062
(101) SE Missouri St 1 7 0.054
(102) Jacksonville 4 4 0.045
(103) Butler 8 0 0.024
(104) Marist 5 3 0.01
(105) Idaho St 0 9 -0.003
(106) Ark Pine Bluff 4 3 -0.018
(107) Indiana St 1 8 -0.074
(108) Bucknell 3 5 -0.09
(109) Robert Morris 2 6 -0.146
(110) Alabama St 4 4 -0.149
(111) St Francis PA 2 6 -0.166
(112) San Diego 3 5 -0.166
(113) W Salem St 1 7 -0.167
(114) Duquesne 2 7 -0.181
(115) Howard 2 6 -0.218
(116) Sacred Heart 1 7 -0.24
(117) NC Central 2 6 -0.28
(118) Presbyterian 0 8 -0.316
(119) MS Valley St 2 6 -0.362
(120) Davidson 2 6 -0.403
(121) Georgetown 0 8 -0.484
(122) Savannah St 2 6 -0.624
(123) Campbell 2 6 -0.655
(124) Morehead St 2 7 -0.658
(125) Valparaiso 1 7 -0.95

5 of Montana's wins in the top 30. Not too bad for a team that schedules easy.

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AZGrizFan wrote:5 of Montana's wins in the top 30. Not too bad for a team that schedules easy.

3 of JMU's 5 loses to teams in the top 4.

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JMU only needs to move up one spot and they are in the playoffs! Fucking score!

grizzaholic wrote:

JMU DJ wrote:
3 of JMU's 5 loses to teams in the top 4.

That must mean that JMU should be in the top 5.

JMU DJ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:5 of Montana's wins in the top 30. Not too bad for a team that schedules easy.

3 of JMU's 5 loses to teams in the top 4.

The CAA: FCS definition of a circle-jerk.

Richmond must be good, because they play Villanova, JMU, W&M and Delaware.
Villanova must be good, because they play Richmond, JUM W&M and Delaware.
Delaware must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, JMU and W&M.
W&M must be good because they play Richmond Villanova, JMU and Delaware.
JMU must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, Delaware and W&M.

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grizzaholic wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The CAA: FCS definition of a circle-jerk.

Richmond must be good, because they play Villanova, JMU, W&M and Delaware.
Villanova must be good, because they play Richmond, JUM W&M and Delaware.
Delaware must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, JMU and W&M.
W&M must be good because they play Richmond Villanova, JMU and Delaware.
JMU must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, Delaware and W&M.

But AZ, Weber St. played 2, yeah that is right 2 FBS schools and almost beat them both. ALMOST!

Almost-wins against the FBS count as 1.5 wins, so even though they lost those two games they actually won three games

AZGrizFan wrote:

JMU DJ wrote:
3 of JMU's 5 loses to teams in the top 4.

The CAA: FCS definition of a circle-jerk.

Richmond must be good, because they play Villanova, JMU, W&M and Delaware.
Villanova must be good, because they play Richmond, JUM W&M and Delaware.
Delaware must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, JMU and W&M.
W&M must be good because they play Richmond Villanova, JMU and Delaware.
JMU must be good because they play Richmond, Villanova, Delaware and W&M.

Yeeeeeah, cuz that's what I meant...



.... using the computer rankings to disprove your soft schedule by pointing out you beat a couple top 30 teams. What? It's not ok for me to use the rankings to show that it's ok JMU is having a bad season because they've lost to 3 top 4 teams?

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JMU DJ wrote: Yeeeeeah, cuz that's what I meant...

.... using the computer rankings to disprove your soft schedule by pointing out you beat a couple top 30 teams. What? It's not ok for me to use the rankings to show that it's ok JMU is having a bad season because they've lost to 3 top 4 teams?

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all...and we WON our games. You lost yours.

AZGrizFan wrote: I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all...and we WON our games. You lost yours.

Hypocrisy of the computer or you?

Maine at #30......at least the computer respects them.

JMU DJ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all...and we WON our games. You lost yours.

Hypocrisy of the computer or you?

The fact that somehow CAA teams are all good because they're forced to play each other, but the same rule doesn't apply (apparently) to the OTHER major FCS conferences (SoCon, BSC, MVC, Southern).

AZGrizFan wrote:

JMU DJ wrote:
Hypocrisy of the computer or you?

The fact that somehow CAA teams are all good because they're forced to play each other, but the same rule doesn't apply (apparently) to the OTHER major FCS conferences (SoCon, BSC, MVC, Southern).

But these are computer rankings, they can't be wrong

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• (29) McNeese St 6 2 1
  (30) Maine 4 4 0.973
  (31) Texas St 5 3 0.96
  (32) Hofstra 4 4 0.957
  (33) Illinois St 4 4 0.947
  (34) North Dakota 4 4 0.942
  (35) SE Louisiana 5 3 0.93
  (36) Cent Arkansas 5 3 0.912

no point I want to bring up, just felt like doing this

JMU DJ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The fact that somehow CAA teams are all good because they're forced to play each other, but the same rule doesn't apply (apparently) to the OTHER major FCS conferences (SoCon, BSC, MVC, Southern).

But these are computer rankings, they can't be wrong

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh......

CatMom wrote:

• (29) McNeese St 6 2 1
  (30) Maine 4 4 0.973
  (31) Texas St 5 3 0.96
  (32) Hofstra 4 4 0.957
  (33) Illinois St 4 4 0.947
  (34) North Dakota 4 4 0.942
  (35) SE Louisiana 5 3 0.93
  (36) Cent Arkansas 5 3 0.912

no point I want to bring up, just felt like doing this

Oh wait, I thought of something... TCU helped our GPI immensely (cause otherwise our OOC sucks and we haven't played MSU or UCA yet)

AZGrizFan wrote:5 of Montana's wins in the top 30. Not too bad for a team that schedules easy.

WCB