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This was a nightmare to figure out this week. I still don't if I have??

1) Richmond (1)
2) Southern Illinois (2)
3) Montana (3)
4) Elon (4)
5) New Hampshire (5)
6) William & Mary (7)
7) Villanova (6)
8) South Dakota State (8)
9) Northern Iowa (9)
10) Appalachian State (10)
11) South Carolina State (13)
12) Jacksonville State (17)
13) McNeese State (15)
14) Cal Poly (18)
15) Central Arkansas (12)
16) Eastern Illinois (23)
17) Eastern Washington (24)
18) Northern Arizona (16)
19) Weber State (11)
20) Stephen F. Austin (14)
21) Holy Cross (21)
22) Colgate (22)
23) Florida A&M (25)
24) Liberty (-)
25) Albany (20)

In my view EIU and EWU are too high, but I had nowhere else to put them at this point...... I might have put Holy Cross and Colgate higher, but would it still be accurate, probably not, so I just left them where they are. The Weber State and Northern Arizona threw me for a loop. I could have easily dropped NAU out, but dropped Delaware out instead, because their loss was much worse and at home, so there you go. If I had to redo it NAU would have been about 22.

Albany lost to Central Ct.
Central Ct. is 7-1 with their only loss to your #6 W&M.
Central should definitely be ranked above at least Albany and arguably above Holy Cross, Colgate FAMU and Liberty.

1: Richmond
2: Southern Illinois
3: Montana
4: Elon
5: William & Mary
6: Villanova
7: South Dakota State
8: Appalachian State
9: New Hampshire
10: McNeese State
11: Northern Iowa
12: South Carolina State
13: Eastern Illinois
14: Jacksonville State
15: Eastern Washington
16: Northern Arizona
17: Stephen F. Austin
18: Delaware
19: Central Arkansas
20: Holy Cross
21: Liberty
22: Weber State
23: Central Connecticut State
24: Albany
25: Texas State

1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. SDSU
7. William & Mary
8. App State
9. UNH
10. McNeese St
11. Weber St
12. UNI
13. Delaware
14. EWU
15. South Carolina State
16. EIU
17. NAU
18. Texas State
19. SFA
20. Holy Cross
21. UCA
22. SELA
23. Liberty
24. Central Connecticut
25. Montana State

1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Southern Illinois
4. Villanova
5. Elon
6. William & Mary
7. New Hampshire
8. Appalachian St.
9. South Dakota St.
10. South Carolina St.
11. McNeese St.
12. Northern Iowa
13. Florida A&M
14. Eastern Washington
15. Weber St.
16. Stephen F. Austin
17. Holy Cross
18. Jacksonville St.
19. Eastern Illinois
20. Liberty
21. Central Arkansas
22. Lafayette
23. Central Connecticut St.
24. Northern Arizona
25. Southern Utah

AZGrizFan wrote:1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. SDSU
7. William & Mary
8. App State
9. UNH
10. McNeese St
11. Weber St
12. UNI
13. Delaware
14. EWU
15. South Carolina State
16. EIU
17. NAU
18. Texas State
19. SFA
20. Holy Cross
21. UCA
22. SELA
23. Liberty
24. Central Connecticut
25. Montana State

This fcuker is such a homer.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. SDSU
7. William & Mary
8. App State
9. UNH
10. McNeese St
11. Weber St
12. UNI
13. Delaware
14. EWU
15. South Carolina State
16. EIU
17. NAU
18. Texas State
19. SFA
20. Holy Cross
21. UCA
22. SELA
23. Liberty
24. Central Connecticut
25. Montana State

This fcuker is such a homer.

5 Southland teams ranked

The Griz played thier first solid game for 4 quarters against Weber...if they can keep doing that they will give anyone fits. AZ is just giving them credit for that

putter wrote:The Griz played thier first solid game for 4 quarters against Weber...if they can keep doing that they will give anyone fits. AZ is just giving them credit for that

Montana is a very good team no doubt.. but the undefeated national champs should be number 1 period.

Franks Tanks wrote:

putter wrote:The Griz played thier first solid game for 4 quarters against Weber...if they can keep doing that they will give anyone fits. AZ is just giving them credit for that

Montana is a very good team no doubt.. but the undefeated national champs WITH AN FBS WIN should be number 1 period.

Added something, for emphasis. But I totally agree.

ToTheLeft wrote:

Franks Tanks wrote:
Montana is a very good team no doubt.. but the undefeated national champs WITH AN FBS WIN should be number 1 period.

Added something, for emphasis. But I totally agree.

Polls aren't about groupthink. If he honestly thinks they're the better team, THIS SEASON, then he has every right to vote them #1.

1. Georgetown
2. Presbyterian
3. Northwestern State
4. Idaho State
5. Valparaiso
6. Sacred Heart
7. Winston-Salem State
8. Western Carolina
9. Southeast Missouri State
10. Dartmouth
11. Indiana State
12. Rhode Island
13. Western Illinois
14. Northeastern
15. Morehead State
16. Campbell
17. Savannah State
18. Davidson
19. N.C. Central
20. Duquesne
21. Saint Francis-PA
22. Mississippi Valley State
23. Howard
24. Robert Morris
25. Princeton

Grizalltheway wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote:
Added something, for emphasis. But I totally agree.

Polls aren't about groupthink. If he honestly thinks they're the better team, THIS SEASON, then he has every right to vote them #1.

Sure, but I have every right to disagree and tell him how he should vote. It's all freedom of speech. Doesn't mean anyone has to listen.

ToTheLeft wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Polls aren't about groupthink. If he honestly thinks they're the better team, THIS SEASON, then he has every right to vote them #1.

Sure, but I have every right to disagree and tell him how he should vote. It's all freedom of speech. Doesn't mean anyone has to listen.

No doubt man, and Z should definitely be poked and prodded as often as possible.

I am not even joking... I put SDSU as #1 in the country. When they beat SIU on Saturday, you will ALL know why. They are nothing flashy, but they were eerily remiscient of Tressel teams from the 90s at Stambaugh this past Saturday.

Their execution, coaching, lack of turnovers, and just flat our heart is the best I have seen in person in many many years.

I think most, if not all, teams in the Top 10 have better athletes and speed than SDSU, but for the reasons above, they will be VERY tough to beat.

Franks Tanks wrote:

putter wrote:The Griz played thier first solid game for 4 quarters against Weber...if they can keep doing that they will give anyone fits. AZ is just giving them credit for that

Montana is a very good team no doubt.. but the undefeated national champs should be number 1 period.

My top 4 have not changed in 4 weeks.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Franks Tanks wrote:
Montana is a very good team no doubt.. but the undefeated national champs should be number 1 period.

My top 4 have not changed in 4 weeks.

My top 8 has been the same for 4 weeks.

The bottom 17... not so much.

guinzone wrote:I am not even joking... I put SDSU as #1 in the country. When they beat SIU on Saturday, you will ALL know why. They are nothing flashy, but they were eerily remiscient of Tressel teams from the 90s at Stambaugh this past Saturday.

Their execution, coaching, lack of turnovers, and just flat our heart is the best I have seen in person in many many years.

I think most, if not all, teams in the Top 10 have better athletes and speed than SDSU, but for the reasons above, they will be VERY tough to beat.

They're a very good team, but a victory over YSU is hardly something to hang one's hat on.

∞∞∞ wrote:1. Georgetown
2. Presbyterian
3. Northwestern State
4. Idaho State
5. Valparaiso
6. Sacred Heart
7. Winston-Salem State
8. Western Carolina
9. Southeast Missouri State
10. Dartmouth
11. Indiana State
12. Rhode Island
13. Western Illinois
14. Northeastern
15. Morehead State
16. Campbell
17. Savannah State
18. Davidson
19. N.C. Central
20. Duquesne
21. Saint Francis-PA
22. Mississippi Valley State
23. Howard
24. Robert Morris
25. Princeton

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Grizalltheway wrote:

guinzone wrote:I am not even joking... I put SDSU as #1 in the country. When they beat SIU on Saturday, you will ALL know why. They are nothing flashy, but they were eerily remiscient of Tressel teams from the 90s at Stambaugh this past Saturday.

Their execution, coaching, lack of turnovers, and just flat our heart is the best I have seen in person in many many years.

I think most, if not all, teams in the Top 10 have better athletes and speed than SDSU, but for the reasons above, they will be VERY tough to beat.

They're a very good team, but a victory over YSU is hardly something to hang one's hat on.

Who hasn't hung an "L" on YSU lately?

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Southern Illinois Salukis
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: Elon Phoenix
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Appalachian State Mountaineers
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: South Carolina State Bulldogs
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
15: Eastern Washington Eagles
16: Eastern Illinois Panthers
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Holy Cross Crusaders
19: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
22: Colgate Raiders
23: Liberty Flames
24: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
25: Florida A&M Rattlers

Appaholic wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
They're a very good team, but a victory over YSU is hardly something to hang one's hat on.

Who hasn't hung an "L" on YSU lately?

NDSU.

Not much movement for my poll actually.

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Southern Illinois Salukis
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Elon Phoenix
7: New Hampshire Wildcats
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: South Carolina State Bulldogs
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Eastern Illinois Panthers
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Massachusetts Minutemen
23: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
24: Liberty Flames
25: Lafayette Leopards


Just because teams lose doesn't necessarily mean they aren't still one of the best 25 teams in the country.

1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. William & Mary
4. Villanova
5. Southern Illinois
6. Appalachian St
7. South Dakota St
8. Elon
9. New Hampshire
10. McNeese St
11. Northern Iowa
12. South Carolina St
13. Holy Cross
14. Liberty
15. Eastern Illinois
16. Jacksonville St
17. Stephen F Austin
18. Weber St
19. Colgate
20. Central Arkansas
21. Eastern Washington
22. Florida A&M
23. Delaware
24. Lafayette
25. Montana St

As is everyone, having a tough time ranking places 11-25. That is why I have sagarin and massey.

RANK Poll Record SAG Massey
1 Richmond 8-0 53 48
2 Montana 8-0 69 64
3 S Illinois 7-1 76 71
4 Villanova 7-1 49 57
5 William & Mary 7-1 60 60
6 Elon 7-1 105 100
7 SDSU 7-1 78 79
8 New Hampshire 7-1 90 89
9 N Iowa 5-3 81 88
10 South Carolina State 7-1 109 124
11 Appalachian State 6-2 126 123
12 E Washington 6-3 107 115
13 Stephen F Austin 6-2 118 107
14 McNeese State 6-2 131 145
15 NAU 5-3 111 104
16 Delaware 5-3 114 97
17 Weber State 5-4 117 113
18 Central Arkansas 5-3 140 139
19 Jacksonville State 5-3 104 126
20 E Ilinois 7-2 123 128
21 Lafayette 7-1 142 138
22 Liberty 6-2 130 142
23 FAMU 6-2 139 156
24 Colgate 8-1 163 164
25 Holy Cross 7-1 150 140