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AZGrizFan wrote:I don't have a problem with EITHER Wyoming OR Central Washington being on the schedule, but not in the same year. Only leaves you 9 games to win 8.
wouldn't it be 10 games to win 8 in years like this one where 12 games are allowed in the season? Or am I missing something?
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BTW Lion fan I know you'll never agree with me but I looked up the play by play to see if the last part of the game was consistent with my impression. That impression is that, in the fourth quarter, SFA was able to run the ball and finish out the game. That's the kind of thing I like as a fan when I'm pulling for a team.

So anyway I looked it up and the Lumberjacks only threw two passes during four fourth quarter drives. They got a field goal, were stopped on 4th and 1 at midfield, got a touchdown, then ran out the clock on their last drive.

To me they were able to get it done running the ball in the fourth quarter when Southeastern really needed to stop them. Their last two drives went like this:

They got an interception when Southeastern was threatening and returned it to the Southeastern 22. They're up 10 points and there's 4:49 left in the game. The Lions really need to get a stop to force a field goal attempt and keep it at a two score game. Instead, Stephen F. Austin gets runs of 5, 7, and 10 yards to score.

Then Southeastern Louisiana scores on a long pass to get it back to 10. Stephen F. Austin gets the ball back with 2:24 left and needing to get one first down to run Southeastern out of time outs and kill the clock. They get runs of 2, 4, and 4 yards to get their first down.

Completely different type of team than recent years with the Texas Tech style of offense. They had over a 2:1 ratio of run to pass on their offensive plays (47 rushes to 21 passes).

We'll see what happens with them today against Sam Houston State. Pretty close to an elimination game. Moreso for Sam Houston State than Stephen F. Austin, I think, but it's not going to look good in terms of making post season for either if they lose.
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slulionsfan wrote:nm
Yes SFA lost, which was always a possibility. But they got 516 yards of offense balanced between 250 rushing and 266 passing. Their running back Johnson got 148 yards at 6.2 yards per carry.

They didn't lose because they couldn't move the football and they didn't lose because they couldn't run the football. The lost because they couldn't STOP the run against Sam Houston State and especially because their defense gave up a lot a big plays on the ground. Sam Houston State averaged 9.9 yards per rush and had TD runs of 59, 31, 32, and 52 yards. Since they averaged 9.9 yards per carry I'm sure we could find a lot of other long runs if we went through the play by play.
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My latest guess...

EWU
Cal Poly
NAU
Montana St
Coastal
UNH
Richmond
Villanova
SC State
NCAT
Bethune Cookman (the MEAC is an absolute CF)
NDSU
Illinois St
YSU
Indiana State/SDSU winner
Bryant
Jacksonville St
EKU
Fordham
Pioneer (I have no idea who wins their tiebreaker, the top 3 teams don't all play each other)
Chattanooga
SELA
McNeese
SHSU
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:lol: If that were the case, half the teams on that list wouldn't be on it. I think a lot of Montana fans agree wtih me.
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89Hen wrote:My latest guess...

EWU
Cal Poly
NAU
Montana St
Coastal
UNH
Richmond
Villanova
SC State
NCAT
Bethune Cookman (the MEAC is an absolute CF)
NDSU
Illinois St
YSU
Indiana State/SDSU winner
Bryant
Jacksonville St
EKU
Fordham
Pioneer (I have no idea who wins their tiebreaker, the top 3 teams don't all play each other)
Chattanooga
SELA
McNeese
SHSU
So we're on the same planet here...you're selecting 3 MEAC teams???
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bluehenbillk wrote:
89Hen wrote:My latest guess...


SC State
NCAT
Bethune Cookman (the MEAC is an absolute CF)
So we're on the same planet here...you're selecting 3 MEAC teams???
I wouldn't, but I think the committee may. :?

Here's what you have:
SCState is 4-1/6-3 having beaten NCAT and Bethune. If they beat FAMU, Morgan and Norfolk, they are the automatic (I assume).

NCAT is 4-1/7-2 and have Morgan, Savannah and NCCU left, they should end up 10-2, do you think they don't get a bid?

Bethune is 4-1/7-2 and have Norfolk, Hampton and FAMU left, they should end up 10-2, do you think they don't get a bid?

You see the problem?
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bluehenbillk wrote: So we're on the same planet here...you're selecting 3 MEAC teams???
3 each to the CAA and MEAC. Sounds about right, since the MEAC is 1-8 against the CAA this year, including NC A&T's 17-12 drubbing of mighty Elon. :roll:
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89Hen wrote::lol: If that were the case, half the teams on that list wouldn't be on it. I think a lot of Montana fans agree wtih me.
Well, whatever. If we can play a complete game like we did against Sac St on the road, I think we'll win out with relative ease.
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89Hen wrote:My latest guess...

EWU
Cal Poly
NAU
Montana St
Coastal
UNH
Richmond
Villanova
SC State
NCAT
Bethune Cookman (the MEAC is an absolute CF)
NDSU
Illinois St
YSU
Indiana State/SDSU winner
Bryant
Jacksonville St
EKU
Fordham
Pioneer (I have no idea who wins their tiebreaker, the top 3 teams don't all play each other)
Chattanooga
SELA
McNeese
SHSU
You got to be kidding me picking 3 MEAC teams. There will be 2 Big south teams ( Coastal & Liberty)... You all and the committee just keep sleeping on my Flames. But that's ok we enjoy being underdogs :D .
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89Hen wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:
So we're on the same planet here...you're selecting 3 MEAC teams???
I wouldn't, but I think the committee may. :?

Here's what you have:
SCState is 4-1/6-3 having beaten NCAT and Bethune. If they beat FAMU, Morgan and Norfolk, they are the automatic (I assume).

NCAT is 4-1/7-2 and have Morgan, Savannah and NCCU left, they should end up 10-2, do you think they don't get a bid?

Bethune is 4-1/7-2 and have Norfolk, Hampton and FAMU left, they should end up 10-2, do you think they don't get a bid?

You see the problem?
Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "Whoops, I was wrong, didn't mean to pick 3 MEAC teams"
I know you never like to admit you're wrong, but
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bandl wrote:Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "Whoops, I was wrong, didn't mean to pick 3 MEAC teams"
I know you never like to admit you're wrong, but
You don't think I saw that I had three MEAC teams? Hence the (the MEAC is an absolute CF) statement. I don't see anyone else's 24 yet. :coffee:
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Dizzy_King wrote:You all and the committee just keep sleeping on my Flames. But that's ok we enjoy being underdogs :D .
Maybe you'll get that chance, but there's also a great chance that you will end up at 8-4 with wins over Norfolk, Brevard, Bryant... and 0-3 vs playoff caliber teams. AppSt will be your lone good win.
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89Hen wrote:
bandl wrote:Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "Whoops, I was wrong, didn't mean to pick 3 MEAC teams"
I know you never like to admit you're wrong, but
You don't think I saw that I had three MEAC teams? Hence the (the MEAC is an absolute CF) statement. I don't see anyone else's 24 yet. :coffee:
The 24 best teams will make it, and the next 20 will bitched about how they got snubbed. :thumb:
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89Hen wrote:
bandl wrote:Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "Whoops, I was wrong, didn't mean to pick 3 MEAC teams"
I know you never like to admit you're wrong, but
You don't think I saw that I had three MEAC teams? Hence the (the MEAC is an absolute CF) statement. I don't see anyone else's 24 yet. :coffee:
I'll get you mine later and nice work again. Just for the sake of discussion and I know how much you like computers, but A&T opponents average Massey ranking is 350. The teams around 350 are D2 West Liberty, Robert Morris, D2 W. New Mexico, D2 Stonehill, D2 New Mexico Highlands. These aren't even good D2 teams, they are 4-5 and 3-6 D2 teams.

Not saying your wrong, but good fucking god... :ohno:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote::lol: If that were the case, half the teams on that list wouldn't be on it. I think a lot of Montana fans agree wtih me.
Well, whatever. If we can play a complete game like we did against Sac St on the road, I think we'll win out with relative ease.
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Grizalltheway wrote:The 24 best teams will make it
:dunce: :tothehand: Have you followed I-AA football before?
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: You don't think I saw that I had three MEAC teams? Hence the (the MEAC is an absolute CF) statement. I don't see anyone else's 24 yet. :coffee:
I'll get you mine later and nice work again. Just for the sake of discussion and I know how much you like computers, but A&T opponents average Massey ranking is 350. The teams around 350 are D2 West Liberty, Robert Morris, D2 W. New Mexico, D2 Stonehill, D2 New Mexico Highlands. These aren't even good D2 teams, they are 4-5 and 3-6 D2 teams.

Not saying your wrong, but good fucking god... :ohno:
Don't get me wrong, I was completely befuddled as to what do to with the MEAC, but do you see the issue? Bethune and NCAT are both ranked ahead of SCSt and very well could be 10-2 (if either aren't this is moot) so who do you put in?

BTW, I know I will have several teams not make it from my list.
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kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Well, whatever. If we can play a complete game like we did against Sac St on the road, I think we'll win out with relative ease.
:suspicious:
Hey, I said "relative", didn't I? EWU will be our toughest game with or without Adams, but SUU is dogshit and MSU have begun their annual collapse. The home team has to win that one eventually, and I think this is the year. :coffee:
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89Hen wrote:
Dizzy_King wrote:You all and the committee just keep sleeping on my Flames. But that's ok we enjoy being underdogs :D .
Maybe you'll get that chance, but there's also a great chance that you will end up at 8-4 with wins over Norfolk, Brevard, Bryant... and 0-3 vs playoff caliber teams. AppSt will be your lone good win.
In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.
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Dizzy_King wrote:
89Hen wrote: Maybe you'll get that chance, but there's also a great chance that you will end up at 8-4 with wins over Norfolk, Brevard, Bryant... and 0-3 vs playoff caliber teams. AppSt will be your lone good win.
In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.
Where did I rant or rave about Coastal? If they win out, they have an automatic bid. :tothehand:
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89Hen wrote:
Dizzy_King wrote:
In that case Besides Coastal being 9-0. Why does everyone rant and rave over them (No disrespect to Coastal fans). Not one FBS opponent or top 25 team on their schedule this season. Their first real test is Us (Liberty) in a few weeks. While when you look at Liberty We have played 2 FBS opponents beat(Beat 1 of them App state) While playing 4 top 25 Opponents. Indiana State, Bryant, Coastal & Richmond. Yes we did lose to Indiana State(Bad Game) and Richmond(Double OT loss with a depleted defense due to injuries) But we did put up a good win Vs. Bryant and are blowing out Big south teams at this moment.
Where did I rant or rave about Coastal? If they win out, they have an automatic bid. :tothehand:
Not saying that you did but it seems that people do (#2 in the nation). I'm just scratching my head to why we wouldn't make it after going 8-4 and having the #3 Toughest Schedule in FCS according to the NCAA.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
I'll get you mine later and nice work again. Just for the sake of discussion and I know how much you like computers, but A&T opponents average Massey ranking is 350. The teams around 350 are D2 West Liberty, Robert Morris, D2 W. New Mexico, D2 Stonehill, D2 New Mexico Highlands. These aren't even good D2 teams, they are 4-5 and 3-6 D2 teams.

Not saying your wrong, but good **** god... :ohno:
Don't get me wrong, I was completely befuddled as to what do to with the MEAC, but do you see the issue? Bethune and NCAT are both ranked ahead of SCSt and very well could be 10-2 (if either aren't this is moot) so who do you put in?

BTW, I know I will have several teams not make it from my list.
Well, the MEAC will get two max - how the committee sorts that out will be up to them, but there's no way they put the 3rd in.
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