Big Sky Power Rankings 9-16

[AZGrizFan]

As of right now, only EWU scares me, but we get them at home, so I'm not nearly as scared as I was a month ago.

Plus, with Sapper it is personal. No objective person that's been paying attention to the Big Sky would say any team other than EWU looks better than Montana right now.

No it is not personal. I just dont let my love or hatred for a team cloud my judgment. Montana does not have a signature win, and has not played a FBS school to be compared against. It is not very objective to state that UM is better than MSU or Cal Poly as at this point there is not substantiating evidence to prove they are.

So, what is MSU's signature win?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Our HFA is better than OSU's, i.e. it's harder to win in Missoula than in Corvallis.

What BSC team hasn't won in Corvallis?

Big difference between a 3-9 OSU team and OSU this year.

[Sapper]

No it is not personal. I just dont let my love or hatred for a team cloud my judgment. Montana does not have a signature win, and has not played a FBS school to be compared against. It is not very objective to state that UM is better than MSU or Cal Poly as at this point there is not substantiating evidence to prove they are.

So, what is MSU's signature win?

Not a win but performance against SMU a ACC team. Even a loss to SMU by 1 point is still a better performance than a win over a crappy App state or over a middle BSC team. Until Montana wins more and MSU gets beat.

[Grizalltheway]

So, what is MSU's signature win?

Not a win but performance against SMU a ACC team. Even a loss to SMU by 1 point is still a better performance than a win over a crappy App state or over a middle BSC team. Until Montana wins more and MSU gets beat.

MSU did get beat, by a crappy FBS team. And are you aware that they lost their starting QB for a good chunk of the season?

[Mvemjsunpx]

So, what is MSU's signature win?

Not a win but performance against SMU a ACC team. Even a loss to SMU by 1 point is still a better performance than a win over a crappy App state or over a middle BSC team. Until Montana wins more and MSU gets beat.

SMU isn't ACC. They're now in the American Conference after being in C-USA prior to this year.

[Sapper]

Not a win but performance against SMU a ACC team. Even a loss to SMU by 1 point is still a better performance than a win over a crappy App state or over a middle BSC team. Until Montana wins more and MSU gets beat.

MSU did get beat, by a crappy FBS team. And are you aware that they lost their starting QB for a good chunk of the season?

Still until MSU gets beat by a BSC team they out rank Montana. Montana playing Oklahoma panhandle high school NAIA will not help. If you want to count those wins then we come back to UM being tied with ISU for 1st.

[Grizalltheway]

MSU did get beat, by a crappy FBS team. And are you aware that they lost their starting QB for a good chunk of the season?

Still until MSU gets beet by a BSC team they out rank Montana. Montana playing Oklahoma panhandle high school NAIA will not help. If you want to count those wins then we come back to UM being tied with ISU for 1st.

But you're going to count them playing Colorado School for the Deaf and Blind and non-scholly Monmouth as quality wins?

[Sapper]

Not a win but performance against SMU a ACC team. Even a loss to SMU by 1 point is still a better performance than a win over a crappy App state or over a middle BSC team. Until Montana wins more and MSU gets beat.

SMU isn't ACC. They're now in the American Conference after being in C-USA prior to this year.

You are correct I should have typed AAC not ACC

[Sapper]

Still until MSU gets beet by a BSC team they out rank Montana. Montana playing Oklahoma panhandle high school NAIA will not help. If you want to count those wins then we come back to UM being tied with ISU for 1st.

But you're going to count them playing Colorado School for the Deaf and Blind and non-scholly Monmouth as quality wins?

No I am not counting them that is why I am not saying that ISU is #1 for beating 2 DII schools. Montana has 2 wins MSU has 2 wins on schools they should of beat and a close game on a BCS team. When Montana plays NAU that will give a much better idea if the Montana power house is back or if the Montana from last year is back. If MSU gets beat then we know that MSU is nothing without there QB. IF Cal Polly wins then they will tie for 2nd with UM.

[AZGrizFan]

But you're going to count them playing Colorado School for the Deaf and Blind and non-scholly Monmouth as quality wins?

No I am not counting them that is why I am not saying that ISU is #1 for beating 2 DII schools. Montana has 2 wins MSU has 2 wins on schools they should of beat and a close game on a BCS team. When Montana plays NAU that will give a much better idea if the Montana power house is back or if the Montana from last year is back. If MSU gets beat then we know that MSU is nothing without there QB. IF Cal Polly wins then they will tie for 2nd with UM.

That ISU education is coming back to haunt you.

[EWURanger]

HFA didn't help the Beavers.

Our HFA is better than OSU's, i.e. it's harder to win in Missoula than in Corvallis.

Yeah, I dunno about all that...


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[Grizalltheway]

No I am not counting them that is why I am not saying that ISU is #1 for beating 2 DII schools. Montana has 2 wins MSU has 2 wins on schools they should of beat and a close game on a BCS team. When Montana plays NAU that will give a much better idea if the Montana power house is back or if the Montana from last year is back. If MSU gets beat then we know that MSU is nothing without there QB. IF Cal Polly wins then they will tie for 2nd with UM.

That ISU education is coming back to haunt you.

Still chuckling at 'gets beet'.

[Sapper]

That ISU education is coming back to haunt you.

Still chuckling at 'gets beet'.

Sorry multitasking. Mind is thinking faster than fingers type.

[Get'em_Griz]

It's obvious Sapper hasn't watched these games. It's hilarious trying to follow his logic on which team looks better based on wins or close 1-point losses to FBS teams who haven't been relevant in years, or thinking App State sucks when they simply just ran into a team that was releasing all the frustration built up from a season ago.

Better get with the program, Sappy... The Griz are back.

[Sapper]

It's obvious Sapper hasn't watched these games. It's hilarious trying to follow his logic on which team looks better based on wins or close 1-point losses to FBS teams who haven't been relevant in years, or thinking App State sucks when they simply just ran into a team that was releasing all the frustration built up from a season ago.

Better get with the program, Sappy... The Griz are back.

Montana release all that frustration on App state....If App State was so great How do you explain week 2. The grizz might be back but they are not the best in the Big Sky. You can try and justify it all you want but EWU is the best they have the win to prove it, MSU is #2 and Cal Polly is #3. Cal Polly has had a much harder schedule than UM has and Cal Polly has performed well. It is obvious that you did not watch all the other games in the Big Sky if you did then you obviously would rank teams on wins and loses and the quality of the performance and appoint. You obviously are ranking on preconceived perceptions of other BSC teams.

[Get'em_Griz]

It's obvious Sapper hasn't watched these games. It's hilarious trying to follow his logic on which team looks better based on wins or close 1-point losses to FBS teams who haven't been relevant in years, or thinking App State sucks when they simply just ran into a team that was releasing all the frustration built up from a season ago.

Better get with the program, Sappy... The Griz are back.

Montana release all that frustration on App state....If App State was so great How do you explain week 2.

They suffered the Griz hangover.

[mlbowl]

Still chuckling at 'gets beet'.

Sorry multitasking. Mind is thinking faster than fingers type.

That's debatable.

[AZGrizFan]

It's obvious Sapper hasn't watched these games. It's hilarious trying to follow his logic on which team looks better based on wins or close 1-point losses to FBS teams who haven't been relevant in years, or thinking App State sucks when they simply just ran into a team that was releasing all the frustration built up from a season ago.

Better get with the program, Sappy... The Griz are back.

Montana release all that frustration on App state....If App State was so great How do you explain week 2. The grizz might be back but they are not the best in the Big Sky. You can try and justify it all you want but EWU is the best they have the win to prove it, MSU is #2 and Cal Polly is #3. Cal Polly has had a much harder schedule than UM has and Cal Polly has performed well. It is obvious that you did not watch all the other games in the Big Sky if you did then you obviously would rank teams on wins and loses and the quality of the performance and appoint. You obviously are ranking on preconceived perceptions of other BSC teams.

Do you have any idea what the record of teams is the week AFTER playing the Griz over the past 5-7 years?

Hint: It ain't good. Don't be surprised when ASU wins the Southern Conference this year. Oh, and NCA&T ain't no slouch, either. And Cal Polly [sic] "has performed well"?? They're 1-2. If we're counting moral victories, then the Griz actually were 10-1 last year.

[Cap'n Cat]

Montana release all that frustration on App state....If App State was so great How do you explain week 2. The grizz might be back but they are not the best in the Big Sky. You can try and justify it all you want but EWU is the best they have the win to prove it, MSU is #2 and Cal Polly is #3. Cal Polly has had a much harder schedule than UM has and Cal Polly has performed well. It is obvious that you did not watch all the other games in the Big Sky if you did then you obviously would rank teams on wins and loses and the quality of the performance and appoint. You obviously are ranking on preconceived perceptions of other BSC teams.

Do you have any idea what the record of teams is the week AFTER playing the Griz over the past 5-7 years?

Hint: It ain't good. Don't be surprised when ASU wins the Southern Conference this year. Oh, and NCA&T ain't no slouch, either. And Cal Polly [sic] "has performed well"?? They're 1-2. If we're counting moral victories, then the Griz actually were 10-1 last year.

Seems you have no idea, either, Z. Checked it out: Since 2006, opponents are 63-39 in games after playing the Griz.

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[canyoncat]

This is good, an ISU fan sticking up for MSU. Sapper, I think MSU is below EWU and UM at this point in the season, but not far. UM has destroyed their two opponents and EWU has a big win over Oregon State. MSU looked good against Monmouth and SMU (but still lost) and not as good offensively against Mesa. I still think we will be fine with out McGhee, just not as dominate offensively until he gets back.

[Sapper]

This is good, an ISU fan sticking up for MSU. Sapper, I think MSU is below EWU and UM at this point in the season, but not far. UM has destroyed their two opponents and EWU has a big win over Oregon State. MSU looked good against Monmouth and SMU (but still lost) and not as good offensively against Mesa. I still think we will be fine with out McGhee, just not as dominate offensively until he gets back.

You are probably correct but it is so much fun getting all the grizz fans excited I can hear their heads exploding.

[Brock Landers]

Well an ISU fan has to do something to find enjoyment during the season

[AZGrizFan]

[ Since 2006, opponents are 63-39 in games after playing the Griz.

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No offense, but there is no WAY I'm clicking on a link provided by you.

[ASUG8]

So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

I think the ASU signature win has turned out about like our signature win vs. you guys last year. It sounded great at the start until you had a below average season. If App rallies then maybe, but right now I wouldn't put that particular win down as indicative of how good or bad UM is this year. You have a solid team for sure, but we're certainly looking like a transitional team so far.

[Grizalltheway]

So let me see if I understand your reasoning here: Montana throttles the #12 team in the nation 30-6, holding them to no TD's for the first time in SIX YEARS, then goes on the road to beat an UND team 55-17 that beat them last year and put up a school record 660 passing yards....meanwhile, Montana State has beaten MONMOUTH (a NON-SCHOLLY independent that has subsequently lost to LIBERTY and LEHIGH) and Division II Colorado Mesa, while losing to perenial FBS afterthought SMU....and it's MONTANA that doesn't have the signature win?

I think the ASU signature win has turned out about like our signature win vs. you guys last year. It sounded great at the start until you had a below average season. If App rallies then maybe, but right now I wouldn't put that particular win down as indicative of how good or bad UM is this year. You have a solid team for sure, but we're certainly looking like a transitional team so far.

We certainly shouldn't hang our hats on the App or UND games, but after seeing how we played in those ones, I truly thing we can go toe-to-toe with any team in FCS. I'm sure we won't blow everyone else, but this definitely feels like a team that can make a deep run in December.