UNI over KU or ASU over UM?

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Which win was ruined more by their fans?

AppSt beating Michigan
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UNI beating Kansas
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You need a third option, neither. Both wins were great, both fan bases deserve(d) to gloat, and I wouldn't hold it against if it had been a team other than mine. To steal a quote from Jefferson, "That day we (FCS) were all Mountaineers." I felt the same way Saturday when UNI won (even though it busted it my bracket). I don't think the win has been ruined for either team.
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UNI is probably downplayed a touch by the fact that there are still 3 teams lower seeded than them left in the sweet 16. And, now that I look at it, if you go completely by seed differences, the 9-1, 10-2, 11-3, and 12-4 knock-offs were all about same level of upsets. This way this tournament is going, UNI will be find themselves out of the role of underdog before too long!

Those are just random observations. I still think comparing ASU v UM to UNI v KU is equivalent to deciding whether sidewalks are better than paper towels.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:You need a third option, neither. Both wins were great, both fan bases deserve(d) to gloat, and I wouldn't hold it against if it had been a team other than mine. To steal a quote from Jefferson, "That day we (FCS) were all Mountaineers." I felt the same way Saturday when UNI won (even though it busted it my bracket). I don't think the win has been ruined for either team.
Do you feel the same when Villanova or Georgetown advance?
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89Hen wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:You need a third option, neither. Both wins were great, both fan bases deserve(d) to gloat, and I wouldn't hold it against if it had been a team other than mine. To steal a quote from Jefferson, "That day we (FCS) were all Mountaineers." I felt the same way Saturday when UNI won (even though it busted it my bracket). I don't think the win has been ruined for either team.
Do you feel the same when Villanova or Georgetown advance?
Difference being Nova and Georgetown are Kansas just on the East coast.

I wish I still had the article saved but during the 2008-2009 season UNI spend about $20K per player for the entire season. Kansas, during the same time frame, spent about $98,500 per player.

I would bet Georgetown and Nova are pretty close to that.


The only reason those two schools are FCS is so that they don't have to pay as much to have football.
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clenz wrote:The only reason those two schools are FCS is so that they don't have to pay as much to have football.
That may be, but they still are I-AA's. Everyone here accepted Villanova's win over Temple as a I-AA win.

BTW
UNI spend $19,000 per basketball member
ASU spends $7,100 per football member

Their win is more impressive. ;)
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89Hen wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:You need a third option, neither. Both wins were great, both fan bases deserve(d) to gloat, and I wouldn't hold it against if it had been a team other than mine. To steal a quote from Jefferson, "That day we (FCS) were all Mountaineers." I felt the same way Saturday when UNI won (even though it busted it my bracket). I don't think the win has been ruined for either team.
Do you feel the same when Villanova or Georgetown advance?
Not in the NCAA tournament, as they've won national championships at the highest level (in basketball) and are ranked in the top 25 regularly (it's not an upset when they win anymore, as it is for UNI this year and was for ASU in 2007). However, in football, when Nova or G'town play an FBS team, I'd feel the same way.
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89Hen wrote:
clenz wrote:The only reason those two schools are FCS is so that they don't have to pay as much to have football.
That may be, but they still are I-AA's. Everyone here accepted Villanova's win over Temple as a I-AA win.

BTW
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ASU spends $7,100 per football member

Their win is more impressive. ;)
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ASUMountaineer wrote:Not in the NCAA tournament, as they've won national championships at the highest level (in basketball) and are ranked in the top 25 regularly (it's not an upset when they win anymore, as it is for UNI this year and was for ASU in 2007). However, in football, when Nova or G'town play an FBS team, I'd feel the same way.
So we shouldn't revel in any sporting win by one of our I-AA bretheren unless they normally suck at that sport. You hear that UND hockey fans?

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89Hen wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:Not in the NCAA tournament, as they've won national championships at the highest level (in basketball) and are ranked in the top 25 regularly (it's not an upset when they win anymore, as it is for UNI this year and was for ASU in 2007). However, in football, when Nova or G'town play an FBS team, I'd feel the same way.
So we shouldn't revel in any sporting win by one of our I-AA bretheren unless they normally suck at that sport. You hear that UND hockey fans?

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Fuck UND hockey, UNH as well. Does that answer your question? :D
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UNI... hands down.



and yes, i read the whole question.


More impressive win - ASU over Mich

Most annoying - UNI over KU
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wideright82 wrote:UNI... hands down.



and yes, i read the whole question.


More impressive win - ASU over Mich

Most annoying - UNI over KU
How is it most annoying. Again, I would point out that almost all the posts pertaining to the win are made by non-UNI posters
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clenz wrote:
wideright82 wrote:UNI... hands down.



and yes, i read the whole question.


More impressive win - ASU over Mich

Most annoying - UNI over KU
How is it most annoying. Again, I would point out that almost all the posts pertaining to the win are made by non-UNI posters

I answer your question with a question. What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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clenz wrote:
wideright82 wrote:UNI... hands down.



and yes, i read the whole question.


More impressive win - ASU over Mich

Most annoying - UNI over KU
How is it most annoying. Again, I would point out that almost all the posts pertaining to the win are made by non-UNI posters
Why should he justify his opinion? All you asked for was which, not why... :lol:
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89Hen wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:Not in the NCAA tournament, as they've won national championships at the highest level (in basketball) and are ranked in the top 25 regularly (it's not an upset when they win anymore, as it is for UNI this year and was for ASU in 2007). However, in football, when Nova or G'town play an FBS team, I'd feel the same way.
So we shouldn't revel in any sporting win by one of our I-AA bretheren unless they normally suck at that sport. You hear that UND hockey fans?

;)
Nah, revel in anything you wish (and I agree with AA--fuck UND and UNH). :lol: I was speaking of two particular instances, not a general sense. However, logic would suggest there's no reason to revel in a win for Georgetown over, say...Ohio, oh shit... :oops:
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As a homer gotta say the App State victory over MIchigan at the Big House was the bigger upset and yeah we Apps ran with it for quite a while as did the National Media because it is the only time an FCS team had upset a ranked FBS opponent. Say what you will, that win benefitted every program in FCS as it gave us some needed exposure and recognition. The UNI win over Kansas is huge but with same number of schollarships, netural floor, etc. will not be considered as big an upset and UNI should have been ranked prior to that game. That game also benefits mid-majors to some extent, much like Davidson George Mason and others in the past. It's only been a week so give the UNI fans a chance to brag, besides they still have some "fish to fry" and I for one hope they go all the way. :thumb:

Kick some more butt UNI!! (The UNI fans I met at the 2005 FCS National Championship game in Chatty were first rate group of people).
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