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Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:26 pm
by grizband
Of the five finalists announced today, who should win (not who will win) the Heisman trophy?
Colt McCoy - QB Texas
3512 yards passing 27 TD 12INT
348 yards rushing 3 TD
Toby Gerhart - RB Stanford
1736 yards rushing 26 TD
149 yards receiving
Tim Tebow - QB Florida
2413 yards passing 18 TD 5 INT
859 yards rushing 13 TD
Mark Ingram - RB Alabama
1542 yards rushing 15 TD
322 yards receiving 3 TD
Ndamukong Suh - DT Nebraska
82 Tackles (47 solo) 12 sacks 1 INT
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:27 pm
by Willie
My head says Toby Gerhart, but my heart says Ndamukong Suh. Seriously.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:35 pm
by SuperHornet
None of the above. My vote goes to Chris Diniz.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:39 pm
by grizband
SuperHornet wrote:None of the above. My vote goes to Chris Diniz.
These are the five Heisman finalists...why should the Sac State kicker win the Heisman?
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:56 pm
by DJH
Gerhart or Suh both should win it, but McCoy or Ingram will probably win it, by default like what always happens.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:11 pm
by grizband
By the way, I voted for Gerhart. I watched him play against USC and Oregon, and this guy is for real!
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:11 pm
by dbackjon
Gerhart then ingram
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:05 am
by clenz
It should be either Toby or Suh. If it is truly the best player in college football that is the way it will go. It shouldn't be the best player on the best team. I hate that.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:54 pm
by BlueHen86
grizband wrote:SuperHornet wrote:None of the above. My vote goes to Chris Diniz.
These are the five Heisman finalists...why should the Sac State kicker win the Heisman?
He once kicked SuperHornet in the head.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:56 pm
by BlueHen86
I'd like to see Gerhart win it.
Geography may help him. He should get most of the western votes, while the south and midwest votes may be split.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:55 pm
by Grizalltheway
BlueHen86 wrote:grizband wrote:
These are the five Heisman finalists...why should the Sac State kicker win the Heisman?
He once kicked SuperHornet in the head.
That explains A LOT.

Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:02 am
by AppStateAlumQC
I really thought McCoy would win even though I was hoping Suh would pull the upset and bring it home. This was a solid group of finalists.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
Someone explain to me how a voter logically puts Ingram ahead of Gerhart?
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:51 pm
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:Someone explain to me how a voter logically puts Ingram ahead of Gerhart?
Regional homerism
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:39 pm
by Ivytalk
Congrats to Ingram!

Even though I picked Gerhart...

Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:56 pm
by Willie
Gerhart got boned.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:05 am
by JMU DJ
AZGrizFan wrote:Someone explain to me how a voter logically puts Ingram ahead of Gerhart?
People factor in team record in this too... it's the same for any "MVP" award. You don't give it to someone who's team has had a mediocre season but they were awesome (8-4 is ok, but when people get pissy about a 9-3 season, 8-4 is mediocre). Ingram played well all year (minus one game) and was pivotal in his team going undefeated thus far. Gerhart played well all season long, played against weaker defenses and put up better numbers... Gerhart seems better, but I would have voted for Ingram, he sealed the deal with his performance against Florida IMO.
311 attempts for Gerhart vs 249 for Ingram. The TDs are slightly impressive, but having 62 more carries and only 200 more yards isn't. He's a bruising down hill back and will be good on third and short/goal in the NFL, heck didn't the Bus score around 10 TD his final season with under 400 yards?
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:22 am
by dbackjon
I wonder how much the no-prior Alabama Heisman winner played a factor?
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:04 pm
by SuperHornet
Should have been Diniz or Selle.
Re: Who Should Win the Heisman Trophy?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:10 pm
by JMU DJ
dbackjon wrote:I wonder how much the no-prior Alabama Heisman winner played a factor?
Probably not a lot... Just sayin, I wasn't aware of it until the actual ceremony. I mean for the football history that Bama has, the number of national titles, you'd figure at least one player from their school had won it. Maybe it's my general ignorance, but I couldn't tell you every school that has and hasn't produced a Heisman winner. I bet there were a lot of voters who didn't know this either.
Gerhart won the Doak Walker award over Ingram if that means anything... if you think regional bias had anything to do with it, then Gerhart made up for it by winning out in the west... I can't find the breakdown without running into a bunch of spam sites, but how did things play out in middle America? The vote was real close in the end, I know that.