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Sam Harris (who I tend to not like) absolutely nails it here.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 10:50 am Sam Harris (who I tend to not like) absolutely nails it here.

I haven't paid attention to Sam Harris since Cleats brought him up as some sort of debater on Christianity and then got promptly stomped by the few Christian apologists he tried debating.

Lastly, he seems to totally skip the media you follow. Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan.

Guys a halfwit.

What conspiracy have I peddled? I don't watch Rogan by the way.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:06 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 10:50 am Sam Harris (who I tend to not like) absolutely nails it here.

I haven't paid attention to Sam Harris since Cleats brought him up as some sort of debater on Christianity and then got promptly stomped by the few Christian apologists he tried debating.

Lastly, he seems to totally skip the media you follow. Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan.

Guys a halfwit.

What conspiracy have I peddled? I don't watch Rogan by the way.

Let's compare liberal vs MAQA conspiracy theories.

You stated "Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan" so enlighten us with the liberal conspiracy theories that "set the precedent".

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:06 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 10:50 am Sam Harris (who I tend to not like) absolutely nails it here.

I haven't paid attention to Sam Harris since Cleats brought him up as some sort of debater on Christianity and then got promptly stomped by the few Christian apologists he tried debating.

Lastly, he seems to totally skip the media you follow. Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan.

Guys a halfwit.

What conspiracy have I peddled? I don't watch Rogan by the way.

Son…Cleets owned your ass in those debates. And like I says, I’m not a Harris fan either but he is a genius and makes sound arguments.

So you don’t watch Rogan. Which conspiracists do you listen to?

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:01 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:06 pm

I haven't paid attention to Sam Harris since Cleats brought him up as some sort of debater on Christianity and then got promptly stomped by the few Christian apologists he tried debating.

Lastly, he seems to totally skip the media you follow. Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan.

Guys a halfwit.

What conspiracy have I peddled? I don't watch Rogan by the way.

Son…Cleets owned your ass in those debates. And like I says, I’m not a Harris fan either but he is a genius and makes sound arguments.

So you don’t watch Rogan. Which conspiracists do you listen to?

Cleets didn't own anything and if you remember got called a pseudo intellectual by those who knew about Catholicism. I didn't venture out into that discussion because I am not Catholic. Cleets also got wrecked on straight up Christianity by listening to dipshits like Harris on the topic.

The closest to conspiracists I read, would have to be Mark Wauck from his blog that I have shared here before. He's not a fan of Trump and believes the Anglo-Zionists are bossing Trump around.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:36 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:06 pm

I haven't paid attention to Sam Harris since Cleats brought him up as some sort of debater on Christianity and then got promptly stomped by the few Christian apologists he tried debating.

Lastly, he seems to totally skip the media you follow. Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan.

Guys a halfwit.

What conspiracy have I peddled? I don't watch Rogan by the way.

Let's compare liberal vs MAQA conspiracy theories.

You stated "Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan" so enlighten us with the liberal conspiracy theories that "set the precedent".

You don't think the liberal media was spreading nothing but bullshit during Trump's run up and including his first term?

Russia collusion. That ring a bell? From there it's been made up shit over and over. Most recently we see the Ukraine impeachment was a hoax as well. Trump's first into politics is well documented conspiracies that never came to fruition.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:53 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 12:36 pm

Let's compare liberal vs MAQA conspiracy theories.

You stated "Liberal media set the precedent years before Rogan" so enlighten us with the liberal conspiracy theories that "set the precedent".

You don't think the liberal media was spreading nothing but bullshit during Trump's run up and including his first term?

Russia collusion. That ring a bell? From there it's been made up shit over and over. Most recently we see the Ukraine impeachment was a hoax as well. Trump's first into politics is well documented conspiracies that never came to fruition.

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:53 pm You don't think the liberal media was spreading nothing but bullshit during Trump's run up and including his first term?

Russia collusion. That ring a bell? From there it's been made up shit over and over. Most recently we see the Ukraine impeachment was a hoax as well. Trump's first into politics is well documented conspiracies that never came to fruition.

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

russia collusion was NOT a hoax. There was plenty of evidence of connections between trump's circle and russia. Not enough for a conviction but enough to show it was a "conspiracy".

Compare the one "liberal" conspiracy that SG could bring up to the numerous MAQA conspiracy theories from the inane Jewish space lasers, weather control, etc. to the more serious/seditious like the 2020 election was stolen, January 6 was "mostly peaceful", etc.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:27 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

russia collusion was NOT a hoax. There was plenty of evidence of connections between trump's circle and russia. Not enough for a conviction but enough to show it was a "conspiracy".

Compare the one "liberal" conspiracy that SG could bring up to the numerous MAQA conspiracy theories from the inane Jewish space lasers, weather control, etc. to the more serious/seditious like the 2020 election was stolen, January 6 was "mostly peaceful", etc.

Climate change
Vaccines
Sasquatch

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:53 pm

You don't think the liberal media was spreading nothing but bullshit during Trump's run up and including his first term?

Russia collusion. That ring a bell? From there it's been made up shit over and over. Most recently we see the Ukraine impeachment was a hoax as well. Trump's first into politics is well documented conspiracies that never came to fruition.

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

How many times have you answered the hoax part?

Hillary’s paid for fake dirt to dump Trump

Total hoax and your government CIA was in on it

The democracy loving Democrats shrug their shoulders at facts

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:53 am

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

How many times have you answered the hoax part?

Hillary’s paid for fake dirt to dump Trump

Total hoax and your government CIA was in on it

The democracy loving Democrats shrug their shoulders at facts

I’m not here to defend Hillary. Can’t stand her.

I’ll post these facts as long as you deny Russia interference in favor of Trump. You know…the stuff admitted to or proven in courts.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:52 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:53 am

How many times have you answered the hoax part?

Hillary’s paid for fake dirt to dump Trump

Total hoax and your government CIA was in on it

The democracy loving Democrats shrug their shoulders at facts

I’m not here to defend Hillary. Can’t stand her.

I’ll post these facts as long as you deny Russia interference in favor of Trump. You know…the stuff admitted to or proven in courts.

You can’t stand Hillary? Were you Influenced by the Russians?

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 10:57 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:52 am

I’m not here to defend Hillary. Can’t stand her.

I’ll post these facts as long as you deny Russia interference in favor of Trump. You know…the stuff admitted to or proven in courts.

You can’t stand Hillary? Were you Influenced by the Russians?

Hillary is a smarmy, unlikeable person. She is also a neo-liberal like so many Republicans of that era. Is that what the Russians were saying?

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:15 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 10:57 am

You can’t stand Hillary? Were you Influenced by the Russians?

Hillary is a smarmy, unlikeable person. She is also a neo-liberal like so many Republicans of that era. Is that what the Russians were saying?

Don’t know what the Russians were saying

that’s what I’m trying to find out….

So tell us what they did

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:23 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:15 am

Hillary is a smarmy, unlikeable person. She is also a neo-liberal like so many Republicans of that era. Is that what the Russians were saying?

Don’t know what the Russians were saying

that’s what I’m trying to find out….

So tell us what they did

Probably time for you to read the Mueller Report.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:24 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:23 am

Don’t know what the Russians were saying

that’s what I’m trying to find out….

So tell us what they did

Probably time for you to read the Mueller Report.

Why? that came out after the election of 2016

What did the Russians do to influence the average Americans vote?

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:26 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:24 am

Probably time for you to read the Mueller Report.

Why? that came out after the election of 2016

What did the Russians do to influence the average Americans vote?

Read the Mueller Report. It’s there waiting for you. Dong bd scared.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:52 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:53 am

How many times have you answered the hoax part?

Hillary’s paid for fake dirt to dump Trump

Total hoax and your government CIA was in on it

The democracy loving Democrats shrug their shoulders at facts

I’m not here to defend Hillary. Can’t stand her.

I’ll post these facts as long as you deny Russia interference in favor of Trump. You know…the stuff admitted to or proven in courts.

Russia has tried interfering in every US POTUS election of the last 80 years. The HOAX was Trump Russia collusion over the 2016 election.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 8:37 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:52 am

I’m not here to defend Hillary. Can’t stand her.

I’ll post these facts as long as you deny Russia interference in favor of Trump. You know…the stuff admitted to or proven in courts.

Russia has tried interfering in every US POTUS election of the last 80 years. The HOAX was Trump Russia collusion over the 2016 election.

On this level? Ignoring all the favors and kind treatment Trump has shown Putin?

It will never be an open and shut case and you know it. Mueller didn’t exonerate Trump and laid out extensive evidence for further prosecution. Trump has done nothing allay those concerns.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:35 pm

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:26 am

Why? that came out after the election of 2016

What did the Russians do to influence the average Americans vote?

Read the Mueller Report. It’s there waiting for you. Dong bd scared.

Nope

You must believe that Russia somehow convinced millions of Americans to vote for either Hillary or Trump

tell us how they did it in your own words

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2026 6:07 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:35 pm

Read the Mueller Report. It’s there waiting for you. Dong bd scared.

Nope

You must believe that Russia somehow convinced millions of Americans to vote for either Hillary or Trump

tell us how they did it in your own words

Well I’m flattered you consider me a worthy source. But it would be better to read the original and highly vetted source material.

And yes….I’m aware of what you’re clearly trying to do here.

Fail.

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2026 6:59 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2026 6:07 am

Nope

You must believe that Russia somehow convinced millions of Americans to vote for either Hillary or Trump

tell us how they did it in your own words

Well I’m flattered you consider me a worthy source. But it would be better to read the original and highly vetted source material.

And yes….I’m aware of what you’re clearly trying to do here.

Fail.

You post non-sense

You get challenged or put it another way, given an opportunity to enlighten us

You take a powder

Caribbean Hen wrote:

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2026 6:59 am Well I’m flattered you consider me a worthy source. But it would be better to read the original and highly vetted source material.

And yes….I’m aware of what you’re clearly trying to do here.

Fail.

You post non-sense

You get challenged or put it another way, given an opportunity to enlighten us

You take a powder

You're projecting.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:53 pm

You don't think the liberal media was spreading nothing but bullshit during Trump's run up and including his first term?

Russia collusion. That ring a bell? From there it's been made up shit over and over. Most recently we see the Ukraine impeachment was a hoax as well. Trump's first into politics is well documented conspiracies that never came to fruition.

Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

Rest my case. How many went to jail for helping the Russians help Trump win the election?

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2026 11:43 am

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 6:23 pm Made up Russian hoax that resulted in 37 indictments including Trumps own campaign staff, 30 convictions ir guilty pleas, 13 Russian nationals including Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort’s business associate, and three Russian companies (including the Internet Research Agency) indicted for engaging in social media "information warfare" and hacking to interfere with the election.

Yet you never mention any of that.

Yeah…made up hoax.

Rest my case. How many went to jail for helping the Russians help Trump win the election?

Let's apply the "how many went to jail" logic to immigration posters charged with interfering with law enforcement.

Next, let's see how you try and worm your way out of the comparison with irrational reasoning and excuses.

Or will you follow Conspiracy Hen's approach and admit to a double standard but lamely attempt to justify it because of attacks on trump.