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On a scale of 0-10 how much do you care about charlie kirk's murder? 10 being it was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11. 0 if you don't give a damn.

1- It's a pimple on a gnat's ass compared to January 6 but a wife and kids lost their husband/father so it's not a 0.

9- It’s a turning point for our country. And I wasn‘t even a listener to his show.

As far as J6, I could give a rats ass. I might give a 1 for that one.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:02 pm 1- It's a pimple on a gnat's ass compared to January 6 but a wife and kids lost their husband/father so it's not a 0.

Isn’t January 6th Three Kings Day?

-1 as far as how much I care about yet another multi-millionaire evangelical preacher getting what he wished on everybody not like him.

Dude will definitely be remembered as the King of FAFO by history though.

His ol' lady sure understands that now is the time pass the collection plate - as much money she's raking in and the zeal with which she's going about it......I wonder if she knew the shooter of his roommate...

All murder is equally bad.

There are a lot of shootings in Minneapolis that go unreported because they are not political or a school shooting. Each life is precious.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:32 pm 9- It’s a turning point for our country

why this and not the baseball game shooter, the attempted giffords assasination, the attempted pelosi assasination, cesar sayoc pipe bombings, the attempted trump assassinations, the assasination of the melissa hortman, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ?

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:20 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:32 pm 9- It’s a turning point for our country

why this and not the baseball game shooter, the attempted giffords assasination, the attempted pelosi assasination, cesar sayoc pipe bombings, the attempted trump assassinations, the assasination of the melissa hortman, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ?

I already answered on Horton on the other thread. Do keep up.

A HIGH PROFILE political assassination for purely Ideological reasons to instill terror, captured on live internet, seen by probably a couple hundred million people around the world, is a 1st, at least since JFK (live TV?). Also Kirk had millions of young (teens and young adult) followers. None of those others sans Trump did. I heard a woman say she was trying to keep herself from seeing the video, yet she was wasn‘t able to keep her 15 yr old daughter from watching it. Now multiple that by 10s of millions of parents & children around the country. Some shit that children should not have been able to see.

Not some schizophrenic (Giffords shooter and Pelosi attempt). The 2 on Trump and the baseball game were attempts, so they came damn close. With Trump though, you knew he was going to survive after about 10 seconds. If you saw the Kirk video (I would say don’t if you haven’t yet) you knew with that much blood pouring out in those 2+ seconds before he fell over, and where he was hit, that it was likely fatal, even with 1st responders right there.

The killing of Brian Thompson is up there. It was an assassination for a political ideological reason to instill terror, although at the time 99.999% of the country didn’t know who Brian Thompson was.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:23 am

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:20 am

why this and not the baseball game shooter, the attempted giffords assasination, the attempted pelosi assasination, cesar sayoc pipe bombings, the attempted trump assassinations, the assasination of the melissa hortman, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ?

I already answered on Horton on the other thread. Do keep up.

A HIGH PROFILE political assassination for purely Ideological reasons to instill terror, captured on live internet, seen by probably a couple hundred million people around the world, is a 1st. Not some schizophrenic (Giffords shooter and Pelosi attempt). The 2 on Trump and the baseball game were attempts, so they came damn close. The killing of Brian Thompson is up there.

This one was big for sure. But I would submit that J6 was as much if not more of a game changer and certainly a catalyst for this stuff.

No need to respond. I know you’ll disagree.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:44 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:23 am
I already answered on Horton on the other thread. Do keep up.

A HIGH PROFILE political assassination for purely Ideological reasons to instill terror, captured on live internet, seen by probably a couple hundred million people around the world, is a 1st. Not some schizophrenic (Giffords shooter and Pelosi attempt). The 2 on Trump and the baseball game were attempts, so they came damn close. The killing of Brian Thompson is up there.

This one was big for sure. But I would submit that J6 was as much if not more of a game changer and certainly a catalyst for this stuff.

No need to respond. I know you’ll disagree.

Ok for the left it’s J6
For the right it’s Kirk.

For the young (esp those on the right) it’s Kirk (I edited my post).

For those not right, left, or young, we could argue.

Who are the Karens answering 10?

Be a real man and put your position and reasoning out there.

I voted 8 for how it’s being exploited, the political implications, and the potential for revenge violence.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:35 am Who are the Karens answering 10?


Be a real man and put your position and reasoning out there.

Probably some new converts to cancel culture from the "fuck your feelings" crowd.

I had to give this one a 7 simply because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk, but have to say planning and executing a person over differences is next level crazy.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:46 am I voted 8 for how it’s being exploited, the political implications, and the potential for revenge violence.

I've only mentioned it twice before. Check out the Seven Mountain Mandate and you might not sleep tonight. This is what I was obliquely referencing previously.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:46 am I voted 8 for how it’s being exploited, the political implications, and the potential for revenge violence.

Which will be the TDS Left‘s fault.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:33 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:46 am I voted 8 for how it’s being exploited, the political implications, and the potential for revenge violence.

Which will be the TDS Left‘s fault.

Because it's never, ever the fault of trump or MAQA yahoos. They're innocent little angels who have done nothing wrong, wouldn't push their beliefs on anyone, or hurt them by calling them names.

houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:36 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:35 am Who are the Karens answering 10?

Be a real man and put your position and reasoning out there.

Probably some new converts to cancel culture from the "fuck your feelings" crowd.

Where are they? Are they hiding in their basements or behind their moms' squirts?

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:15 pm

houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:36 pm

Probably some new converts to cancel culture from the "fuck your feelings" crowd.

Where are they? Are they hiding in their basements or behind their moms' squirts?

LoL someone is mad because their poll results aren‘t going as wanted or expected..

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:25 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:15 pm
Where are they? Are they hiding in their basements or behind their moms' squirts?

LoL someone is mad because their poll results aren‘t going as wanted or expected..

I'm steaming mad, ready to absolutely blow my top because of how a bunch of anonymous posters on a message board voted in a poll.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:50 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:33 pm
Which will be the TDS Left‘s fault.

Because it's never, ever the fault of trump or MAQA yahoos. They're innocent little angels who have done nothing wrong, wouldn't push their beliefs on anyone, or hurt them by calling them names.

A decade voluminous incendiary rhetoric from the left how Trump is Hitler, MAGA are NAZIS, fight like hell (long before Trump’s), the end of democracy, etc, etc, etc, on all platforms (TV, newspapers, internet, social media) led to leftist loons making 2 assassination attempts on Trump, and assassinating Charlie Kirk. Now 50k+ (one claim I heard across all platforms) from all walks of life but esp left leaning fields (teachers, professors, medical) publicly celebrating the assassination. A probably a 100x more not online. By celebrating it, these leftist loons are essentially saying they wish they could have pulled the trigger themselves.

Fuck your both sides ism. When a loon on the right responds in kind, the Left fucking owns it.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:20 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:50 pm
Because it's never, ever the fault of trump or MAQA yahoos. They're innocent little angels who have done nothing wrong, wouldn't push their beliefs on anyone, or hurt them by calling them names.

A decade voluminous incendiary rhetoric from the left how Trump is Hitler, MAGA are NAZIS, fight like hell (long before Trump’s), the end of democracy, etc, etc, etc, on all platforms (TV, newspapers, internet, social media) led to leftist loons making 2 assassination attempts on Trump, and assassinating Charlie Kirk. Now 50k+ (one claim I heard across all platforms) from all walks of life but esp left leaning fields (teachers, professors, medical) publicly celebrating the assassination. A probably a 100x more not online. By celebrating it, these leftist loons are essentially saying they wish they could have pulled the trigger themselves.

Fuck your both sides ism. When a loon on the right responds in kind, the Left fucking owns it.

It's not my fault - whaaa!

And all of the incendiary things that rightist loons said about Bill Clinton or Obama when they were President were no big deal. This didn't start with trump (or Dubya) and you and MAQA yahoo loons are not innocent. The "the end of democracy" claims aren't that different than MAQA yahoos claims about the "moral decay" of the woke agenda, DEI, etc.
- stephen miller: "This administration is not going to let our society devolve into communist, woke, DEI strangulation.”
- ron deconkis: called wokeness “a cancer that will ultimately destroy the US."

trump is just as guilty of inflaming the situation as the "leftist loons" you decry. He likes to dish it out but he can't take it.

Real alpha males take responsibility for their words and actions.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:46 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:20 pm

A decade voluminous incendiary rhetoric from the left how Trump is Hitler, MAGA are NAZIS, fight like hell (long before Trump’s), the end of democracy, etc, etc, etc, on all platforms (TV, newspapers, internet, social media) led to leftist loons making 2 assassination attempts on Trump, and assassinating Charlie Kirk. Now 50k+ (one claim I heard across all platforms) from all walks of life but esp left leaning fields (teachers, professors, medical) publicly celebrating the assassination. A probably a 100x more not online. By celebrating it, these leftist loons are essentially saying they wish they could have pulled the trigger themselves.

Fuck your both sides ism. When a loon on the right responds in kind, the Left fucking owns it.

It's not my fault - whaaa!

And all of the incendiary things that rightist loons said about Bill Clinton or Obama when they were President were no big deal. This didn't start with trump (or Dubya) and you and MAQA yahoo loons are not innocent. The "the end of democracy" claims aren't that different than MAQA yahoos claims about the "moral decay" of the woke agenda, DEI, etc.
- stephen miller: "This administration is not going to let our society devolve into communist, woke, DEI strangulation.”
- ron deconkis: called wokeness “a cancer that will ultimately destroy the US."

trump is just as guilty of inflaming the situation as the "leftist loons" you decry. He likes to dish it out but he can't take it.

Real alpha males take responsibility for their words and actions.

Lot T weak beta cucks keep pushing the both sides ism.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:46 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:20 pm

A decade voluminous incendiary rhetoric from the left how Trump is Hitler, MAGA are NAZIS, fight like hell (long before Trump’s), the end of democracy, etc, etc, etc, on all platforms (TV, newspapers, internet, social media) led to leftist loons making 2 assassination attempts on Trump, and assassinating Charlie Kirk. Now 50k+ (one claim I heard across all platforms) from all walks of life but esp left leaning fields (teachers, professors, medical) publicly celebrating the assassination. A probably a 100x more not online. By celebrating it, these leftist loons are essentially saying they wish they could have pulled the trigger themselves.

Fuck your both sides ism. When a loon on the right responds in kind, the Left fucking owns it.

It's not my fault - whaaa!

And all of the incendiary things that rightist loons said about Bill Clinton or Obama when they were President were no big deal. This didn't start with trump (or Dubya) and you and MAQA yahoo loons are not innocent. The "the end of democracy" claims aren't that different than MAQA yahoos claims about the "moral decay" of the woke agenda, DEI, etc.
- stephen miller: "This administration is not going to let our society devolve into communist, woke, DEI strangulation.”
- ron deconkis: called wokeness “a cancer that will ultimately destroy the US."

trump is just as guilty of inflaming the situation as the "leftist loons" you decry. He likes to dish it out but he can't take it.

Real alpha males take responsibility for their words and actions.

Explain why cities are not burning, no looting and no vandalism

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:38 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:46 pm
It's not my fault - whaaa!

And all of the incendiary things that rightist loons said about Bill Clinton or Obama when they were President were no big deal. This didn't start with trump (or Dubya) and you and MAQA yahoo loons are not innocent. The "the end of democracy" claims aren't that different than MAQA yahoos claims about the "moral decay" of the woke agenda, DEI, etc.
- stephen miller: "This administration is not going to let our society devolve into communist, woke, DEI strangulation.”
- ron deconkis: called wokeness “a cancer that will ultimately destroy the US."

trump is just as guilty of inflaming the situation as the "leftist loons" you decry. He likes to dish it out but he can't take it.

Real alpha males take responsibility for their words and actions.

Explain why cities are not burning, no looting and no vandalism

Right after you explain why cities didn't burn and there was no looting and vandalism after Melissa Hortman was assassinated?

Did a seditious MAQA yahoo mob not storm the US Capitol on January 6 after hearing trump tell them they had to fight like hell or they wouldn't have a country?

Open you eyes and see the truth - the language of trump and MAQA yahoos is also incendiary and contributing to division in this country.