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Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:48 pm
by houndawg
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:28 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:49 pm

What? Lefties aren't allowed to prosper under capitalism...? :?
Then don't bitch about capitalism.
Just because I get around in the system I was born into doesn't mean that system is above criticism.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:47 pm
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Constricting the supply or pollution of water cone at a cost to all users. Irrigation, golf courses, the average size American lawn. Everyone is complicit…left and right.

Some will grift off of repairing and creating greater efficiency of usage, some have already grifted off their unfettered access and overuse.

Arizona sells water rights to Saudi Arabian horse breeders for hay.

Elon musk and EV’s.

Neither are hardly what you’d consider lefties.
Talk to me when the exorbitant water prices show up in a city near you. Prices are already a lot higher in stores.
Dude, you’re talking to a guy who used to write $25,000 checks for monthly city water bills at the golf course.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:00 am
by Gil Dobie
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm

Talk to me when the exorbitant water prices show up in a city near you. Prices are already a lot higher in stores.
Dude, you’re talking to a guy who used to write $25,000 checks for monthly city water bills at the golf course.
Might not be able to water the course in the future. Send the land back to nature. Doesn't Billy Gates own more farmland than anyone. Meatless diets coming in the future too.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:45 am
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:00 am
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:47 pm

Dude, you’re talking to a guy who used to write $25,000 checks for monthly city water bills at the golf course.
Might not be able to water the course in the future. Send the land back to nature. Doesn't Billy Gates own more farmland than anyone. Meatless diets coming in the future too.
Half the course is being developed for a subdivision. The surviving 9 may also eventually.

Meatless diets have been around for a long time, Gil.

Is Bill Gates owning the most farmland, bad? Why do you hate capitalism?

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:31 am
by Caribbean Hen
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm

Talk to me when the exorbitant water prices show up in a city near you. Prices are already a lot higher in stores.
Dude, you’re talking to a guy who used to write $25,000 checks for monthly city water bills at the golf course.
Why was it pegged at 25,000?

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:58 am
by HI54UNI
I can't wait to see the feds remove all the river dams in Washington and Oregon. Going to be great!

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:08 am
by kalm
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:58 am I can't wait to see the feds remove all the river dams in Washington and Oregon. Going to be great!
Me too…but let’s focus on the 4 Lower Snake River dams first.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:18 am
by BDKJMU
houndawg wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:40 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:27 am

Why do you hate brown people?
:rofl:

It's not me sniveling about brown people at teh border, Jose. Its your crowd - why don't you ask them?
How many of them have you offered to live in your home, hypocrite?

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:00 am
by Caribbean Hen
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Constricting the supply or pollution of water cone at a cost to all users. Irrigation, golf courses, the average size American lawn. Everyone is complicit…left and right.

Some will grift off of repairing and creating greater efficiency of usage, some have already grifted off their unfettered access and overuse.

Arizona sells water rights to Saudi Arabian horse breeders for hay.

Elon musk and EV’s.

Neither are hardly what you’d consider lefties.
Talk to me when the exorbitant water prices show up in a city near you. Prices are already a lot higher in stores.
Alabama Apt complex, actually a nice one, water bill is pegged at like $225 a month regardless of how much you actually use. Son in law questioned management and was basically told pay it pay or your water gets shut off… any further questions Yank …

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:03 pm
by GannonFan
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:00 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm

Talk to me when the exorbitant water prices show up in a city near you. Prices are already a lot higher in stores.
Alabama Apt complex, actually a nice one, water bill is pegged at like $225 a month regardless of how much you actually use. Son in law questioned management and was basically told pay it pay or your water gets shut off… any further questions Yank …
Sounds like price gouging to me. Find a different apartment.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:20 pm
by Caribbean Hen
GannonFan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:03 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:00 am

Alabama Apt complex, actually a nice one, water bill is pegged at like $225 a month regardless of how much you actually use. Son in law questioned management and was basically told pay it pay or your water gets shut off… any further questions Yank …
Sounds like price gouging to me. Find a different apartment.
Apparently there all the same… it definitely sounds like something is just not right

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:29 pm
by GannonFan
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:20 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:03 pm

Sounds like price gouging to me. Find a different apartment.
Apparently there all the same… it definitely sounds like something is just not right
So price gouging and collusion. People do need to speak up and advocate for themselves. That's how things get changed.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:08 pm
by Caribbean Hen
GannonFan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:29 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:20 pm

Apparently there all the same… it definitely sounds like something is just not right
So price gouging and collusion. People do need to speak up and advocate for themselves. That's how things get changed.
It’s to obviously corrupt to be corrupt, I’m going to look into it further as I’m genuinely interested now

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:18 pm
by UNI88
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:08 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:29 pm
So price gouging and collusion. People do need to speak up and advocate for themselves. That's how things get changed.
It’s to obviously corrupt to be corrupt, I’m going to look into it further as I’m genuinely interested now
Get a copy of their lease. It's probably included there and the time to negotiate it is before it's signed or at renewal. But if every complex is doing it they'll just tell them it's non-negotiable.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:19 pm
by Caribbean Hen

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:25 pm
by Caribbean Hen
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:18 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:08 pm

It’s to obviously corrupt to be corrupt, I’m going to look into it further as I’m genuinely interested now
Get a copy of their lease. It's probably included there and the time to negotiate it is before it's signed or at renewal. But if every complex is doing it they'll just tell them it's non-negotiable.
Good idea, I’m going to try to get him not to give up so easily…

He just sent me this…

It’s just a criminal enterprise. They are naked about how corrupt they are and no one e can do anything about it

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:18 pm
by HI54UNI
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:08 am
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:58 am I can't wait to see the feds remove all the river dams in Washington and Oregon. Going to be great!
Me too…but let’s focus on the 4 Lower Snake River dams first.
No waiting. Do them all. Now.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:31 pm
by UNI88
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:18 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:08 am
Me too…but let’s focus on the 4 Lower Snake River dams first.
No waiting. Do them all. Now.
I don't think they're removing the Bonneville Dam any time soon.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:40 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:31 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:18 pm

No waiting. Do them all. Now.
I don't think they're removing the Bonneville Dam any time soon.
Or Grand Coulee.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:58 pm
by HI54UNI
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:31 pm

I don't think they're removing the Bonneville Dam any time soon.
Or Grand Coulee.
They should. On both.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:32 pm
by kalm
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:58 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:40 pm

Or Grand Coulee.
They should. On both.
Obviously! Flood that gorge and let the Columbia Basin go back to desert!

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:44 am
by Gil Dobie
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:45 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:00 am

Might not be able to water the course in the future. Send the land back to nature. Doesn't Billy Gates own more farmland than anyone. Meatless diets coming in the future too.
Half the course is being developed for a subdivision. The surviving 9 may also eventually.

Meatless diets have been around for a long time, Gil.

Is Bill Gates owning the most farmland, bad? Why do you hate capitalism?
Meatless diets are voluntary right now.

Bill Gates will be part of the forced meatless diet in the future, if not directly, then indirectly.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:50 am
by HI54UNI
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:32 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:58 pm

They should. On both.
Obviously! Flood that gorge and let the Columbia Basin go back to desert!
If that is the natural state that's what it should be. Man needs to stop influencing the environment.

Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:35 am
by kalm
HI54UNI wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:50 am
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:32 pm

Obviously! Flood that gorge and let the Columbia Basin go back to desert!
If that is the natural state that's what it should be. Man needs to stop influencing the environment.
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Re: Fresh Water Crises

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:39 am
by houndawg
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:18 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:40 am

:rofl:

It's not me sniveling about brown people at teh border, Jose. Its your crowd - why don't you ask them?
How many of them have you offered to live in your home, hypocrite?
...you're talking about a different crowd. :coffee:

I haven't offered any MAGATS to live in my home. In fact I won't tolerate them on my property at all.