Common Sense Gun Control

[Bobcat]

And the Constitution was amended as early as 1795, just over 3 years after the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment, was added. Why didn't the Founders (or others in the years since) update the 2nd Amendment to reflect this at that time?

The 2nd Amendment might not have been meant to be interpreted exactly the way gun rights advocates are interpreting it but it's equally plausible that it wasn't meant to be interpreted the way that anti-gun advocates are interpreting it.

Do we need to do something? Yes. Are we realistically going to change the way the 2nd Amendment is being interpreted and applied to limit gun rights? No. So why are liberals focusing on that rather than looking for solutions that can actually be implemented? Do they want to solve the problem and save lives? Or do they want to use the issue to rile up their base, raise funds and get votes?

Similar questions can be asked of conservatives. Neither side really gives two sh!ts about the lives, it's about money, votes and ultimately power.

If they cared about lives, they'd be picketing in front of Cheesecake Factory or a Toyota dealership. 700,000 Americans died of heart disease last year, and 46,000 were killed by a car. 20,000 were murdered by a gun.

If you want to save the fucking children, introduce them to oatmeal, salads, lean meat, and bicycles.

Priorities, motherfuckers.

Nailed it, if they cared they would arm schools and stop this stuff right now. They don't because they need these shootings to further their political agenda. The left wants more of them. Coincidenly these pop up right before the mid term elections

[Ibanez]

My right to live is protected by my gun of choice. I won't be a victim neither will my family. The good news is we avoid places that have high probabilitys of violence like schools, hospitals and malls. Soft targets kill.

That’s a nice sentiment but if 12 guys disarmed you, I’m confident you’ll beg for you life Where was the right to life at that school in Texas? You’re telling me the killer had more right to buy a gun than those kids had to live?


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[Bobcat]

That’s a nice sentiment but if 12 guys disarmed you, I’m confident you’ll beg for you life Where was the right to life at that school in Texas? You’re telling me the killer had more right to buy a gun than those kids had to live?


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Yes


Politicians and teachers put those kids in danger every day of thier school lives. They took away their right to life by making them potential victims before the shooter ever showed up

[Ibanez]

Yes


Politicians and teachers put those kids in danger every day of thier school lives. They took away their right to life by making them potential victims before the shooter ever showed up

That’s quite the statement. You value a gun over the life of your own family.


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[Bobcat]

That’s quite the statement. You value a gun over the life of your own family.


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It's not even open for discussion

Like a couple other good guys said repeal it or STFU

[GannonFan]

I think you guys are purposely avoiding proper use of the quote function. It's like writing sentences without any punctuation.

[BDKJMU]

If they cared about lives, they'd be picketing in front of Cheesecake Factory or a Toyota dealership. 700,000 Americans died of heart disease last year, and 46,000 were killed by a car. 20,000 were murdered by a gun.

If you want to save the fucking children, introduce them to oatmeal, salads, lean meat, and bicycles.

Priorities, motherfuckers.

Would Republican priorities shift if nutjobs started targeting evangelical churches instead of schools?

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The nut jobs typically target ‘gun free’ zones. A LOT of evangelicals pack, and would be shooting back.

[BDKJMU]

I think you guys are purposely avoiding proper use of the quote function. It's like writing sentences without any punctuation.

Yeah, WTF Ibanez and Bobcat. Learn to quote motherfuckers!

[AZGrizFan]

Would Republican priorities shift if nutjobs started targeting evangelical churches instead of schools?

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The nut jobs typically target ‘gun free’ zones. A LOT of evangelicals pack, and would be shooting back.

In fact, the last one who tried it got taken down quickly.

[JohnStOnge]

The nut jobs typically target ‘gun free’ zones. A LOT of evangelicals pack, and would be shooting back.

In fact, the last one who tried it got taken down quickly.

If you are talking about the recent thing in California it had nothing to do with people packing. A brave guy rushed the gunman and knocked him off balance so that others could pin him down. The brave guy got killed. He did not have a gun. See https://6abc.com/laguna-woods-church-sh ... /11861030/.

And we have this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/us/c ... texas.html. Churches are not immune.

[AZGrizFan]

In fact, the last one who tried it got taken down quickly.

If you are talking about the recent thing in California it had nothing to do with people packing. A brave guy rushed the gunman and knocked him off balance so that others could pin him down. The brave guy got killed. He did not have a gun. See https://6abc.com/laguna-woods-church-sh ... /11861030/.

And we have this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/us/c ... texas.html. Churches are not immune.

I didn’t say he did it with a gun. And nobody has said churches are immune. You’re arguing with ghosts.

[SDHornet]

And the Constitution was amended as early as 1795, just over 3 years after the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment, was added. Why didn't the Founders (or others in the years since) update the 2nd Amendment to reflect this at that time?

The 2nd Amendment might not have been meant to be interpreted exactly the way gun rights advocates are interpreting it but it's equally plausible that it wasn't meant to be interpreted the way that anti-gun advocates are interpreting it.

Do we need to do something? Yes. Are we realistically going to change the way the 2nd Amendment is being interpreted and applied to limit gun rights? No. So why are liberals focusing on that rather than looking for solutions that can actually be implemented? Do they want to solve the problem and save lives? Or do they want to use the issue to rile up their base, raise funds and get votes?

Similar questions can be asked of conservatives. Neither side really gives two sh!ts about the lives, it's about money, votes and ultimately power.

If they cared about lives, they'd be picketing in front of Cheesecake Factory or a Toyota dealership. 700,000 Americans died of heart disease last year, and 46,000 were killed by a car. 20,000 were murdered by a gun.

If you want to save the fucking children, introduce them to oatmeal, salads, lean meat, and bicycles.

Priorities, motherfuckers.

Or leftists would get on board with "common sense" abortion legislation. Wonder why they don't.

[SDHornet]

Would Republican priorities shift if nutjobs started targeting evangelical churches instead of schools?

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The nut jobs typically target ‘gun free’ zones. A LOT of evangelicals pack, and would be shooting back.

Yep. There is video of a guy walking into a church with a shotgun and started blasting. He got two shots in before someone that was packing took him out with one shot. Would have been a total massacre if not for the "good guy with a gun".

[kalm]

[Baldy]

In fact, the last one who tried it got taken down quickly.

If you are talking about the recent thing in California it had nothing to do with people packing. A brave guy rushed the gunman and knocked him off balance so that others could pin him down. The brave guy got killed. He did not have a gun. See https://6abc.com/laguna-woods-church-sh ... /11861030/.

And we have this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/us/c ... texas.html. Churches are not immune.

A good guy with a gun.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/man-w ... r/2290236/

[HI54UNI]

Since the libs are all for giving up 2nd amendment constitutional rights to prevent gun violence are they also OK with giving up the 4th amendment and allowing stop and frisk?

[GannonFan]

Interesting article on the local ABC news affiliate in Philly over the weekend. Philly had a much publicized shooting here on Saturday night - a fight resulted in guys pulling out guns and shooting indiscriminately in a crowded section in Philly. 3 dead and 11 wounded, and I think only one gunman was included in that. That makes the 9th mass shooting in Philly this year, and the homicide total this year is about 211, which is just slightly under last year's record breaking homicide rate.

You see more articles like this in the past week as the media seems to have discovered that there are mass shootings throughout America almost every day, especially when you start looking at shootings that occur in cities.

But from the article, there's a little push back between the Philly mayor and the DA. Both are Democrats, obviously, and the DA, Krasner, is one of those DA's from a public defender's background who came in pushing for significant reform in terms of bail and other issues (which I actually agree with). But the mayor points out that, even with 6k illegal guns taken off the street last year in Philly, sometimes the person with that illegal gun, who make even have a record of past convictions, isn't always arrested for having the illegal gun. So he's arguing that people see that having illegal guns doesn't result in any negative outcomes, so people continue to get illegal guns thinking nothing will come of it. The DA pushes back that only about 30% of shootings in Philly even result in arrests, so people are getting the idea that they can shoot their guns and again, nothing will come of it. This is also a city, so there is a strong sentiment not to cooperate with the police in many cases - witnesses do not come forward in a lot of cases for whatever reason. Plenty to chew on from this as these are were the vast majority of non-suicide gun deaths come from. And in this case, it was just guys carrying handguns.

https://6abc.com/south-street-mass-shoo ... /11930786/

[Baldy]

Interesting article on the local ABC news affiliate in Philly over the weekend. Philly had a much publicized shooting here on Saturday night - a fight resulted in guys pulling out guns and shooting indiscriminately in a crowded section in Philly. 3 dead and 11 wounded, and I think only one gunman was included in that. That makes the 9th mass shooting in Philly this year, and the homicide total this year is about 211, which is just slightly under last year's record breaking homicide rate.

You see more articles like this in the past week as the media seems to have discovered that there are mass shootings throughout America almost every day, especially when you start looking at shootings that occur in cities.

But from the article, there's a little push back between the Philly mayor and the DA. Both are Democrats, obviously, and the DA, Krasner, is one of those DA's from a public defender's background who came in pushing for significant reform in terms of bail and other issues (which I actually agree with). But the mayor points out that, even with 6k illegal guns taken off the street last year in Philly, sometimes the person with that illegal gun, who make even have a record of past convictions, isn't always arrested for having the illegal gun. So he's arguing that people see that having illegal guns doesn't result in any negative outcomes, so people continue to get illegal guns thinking nothing will come of it. The DA pushes back that only about 30% of shootings in Philly even result in arrests, so people are getting the idea that they can shoot their guns and again, nothing will come of it. This is also a city, so there is a strong sentiment not to cooperate with the police in many cases - witnesses do not come forward in a lot of cases for whatever reason. Plenty to chew on from this as these are were the vast majority of non-suicide gun deaths come from. And in this case, it was just guys carrying handguns.

https://6abc.com/south-street-mass-shoo ... /11930786/

What our 'leaders' refuse to admit is that this is a massive cultural problem. Guns aren't the problem, but the Leftists will never let a crisis or tragedy to go waste.

Guns were much easier to get 30 years ago and still incidents like this very rarely ever happened. This problem will never end until the so-called leaders in the most affected communities take a long hard look in the mirror.

[houndawg]

And cut out the damn gluten!

Yes! Gluttony is bullshit!!

Of all the deadly sins I prefer sloth and gluttony. The rest are too much work

[AZGrizFan]

Yes! Gluttony is bullshit!!

Of all the deadly sins I prefer sloth and gluttony. The rest are too much work

Of course you’d prefer sloth. The army perfected sloth.

[SDHornet]

[SDHornet]

[BDKJMU]

Matthew McConaughey being invited by the White House to lecture us on gun control is like when Leonardo DiCaprio was lecturing us on global warming. No-one outside the left GAF what these liberal Hollywood elites have to say about the social issue du jour..

[BDKJMU]

Yep, Biden saying Americans shouldn’t be able to own what really aren’t assault weapons, when he gave ballpark 360k real assault rifles to the Taliban, is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

[SDHornet]

Yep, Biden saying Americans shouldn’t be able to own what really aren’t assault weapons, when he gave ballpark 360k real assault rifles to the Taliban, is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Anyone that was aware of the tyranny (at all levels) of gubmint during the China Virus would be stupid to give up their guns.