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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 3:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 7:32 am This tragedy doesn't seem to stop getting worse.

Reading now that the school was on lockdown due to shots fired in the area and a teacher propped the door open. Assume it was done for ventilation not as an inside job.

From the schools FB page.

The teacher who propped the door open (assuming it wasn’t one of the ones killed) has blood on his/her hands and should be run out of town…
Agreed. Who opens a door during a lockdown?

And that should apply that team of Barney Fifes that sat around for 90 minutes with their thumbs up their asses. I guess we can't always depend on the good guy with a gun. The shooter may have shot all those kids the second he entered the room...but if those police had done their jobs maybe some kids would've gotten critical care sooner and survived.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:27 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 3:05 pm
The teacher who propped the door open (assuming it wasn’t one of the ones killed) has blood on his/her hands and should be run out of town…
Agreed. Who opens a door during a lockdown?

And that should apply that team of Barney Fifes that sat around for 90 minutes with their thumbs up their asses. I guess we can't always depend on the good guy with a gun. The shooter may have shot all those kids the second he entered the room...but if those police had done their jobs maybe some kids would've gotten critical care sooner and survived.
Uvalde Police deserve every bit of blame coming their way over this. :nod:
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Re: Uvalde School Shooting

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Ibanez wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:27 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 3:05 pm
The teacher who propped the door open (assuming it wasn’t one of the ones killed) has blood on his/her hands and should be run out of town…
Agreed. Who opens a door during a lockdown?

And that should apply that team of Barney Fifes that sat around for 90 minutes with their thumbs up their asses. I guess we can't always depend on the good guy with a gun. The shooter may have shot all those kids the second he entered the room...but if those police had done their jobs maybe some kids would've gotten critical care sooner and survived.
Hey bro, Blue Lives Matter.

Were these guys standing outside in the hall listening to shots being fired? :?
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houndawg wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:53 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:27 am

Agreed. Who opens a door during a lockdown?

And that should apply that team of Barney Fifes that sat around for 90 minutes with their thumbs up their asses. I guess we can't always depend on the good guy with a gun. The shooter may have shot all those kids the second he entered the room...but if those police had done their jobs maybe some kids would've gotten critical care sooner and survived.
Hey bro, Blue Lives Matter.

Were these guys standing outside in the hall listening to shots being fired? :?
Apparently a break down in process and command. I read earlier that there were 19 officers in the building before they actually breached. And they looked for a key? I guess they don't have any door breaching tools.
a group of 19 law enforcement officers stood outside the classroom in the school for roughly 50 minutes as they waited for room keys and tactical equipment
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/28/us/failu ... index.html
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Re: Uvalde School Shooting

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Ibanez wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 11:10 am
houndawg wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 10:53 am

Hey bro, Blue Lives Matter.

Were these guys standing outside in the hall listening to shots being fired? :?
Apparently a break down in process and command. I read earlier that there were 19 officers in the building before they actually breached. And they looked for a key? I guess they don't have any door breaching tools.
a group of 19 law enforcement officers stood outside the classroom in the school for roughly 50 minutes as they waited for room keys and tactical equipment
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/28/us/failu ... index.html
meanwhile the 911 dispatcher is telling them shes receiving texts from inside the room :ohno:
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Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
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kalm wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:05 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 9:16 pm

:lol: We had enough data on the China Virus 3 months in to know who was at risk. I said this multiple times. I was right. :nod:
So you were predicting 1,000,000 US deaths 3 months in NostraHornet?
No I was pointing out who the at risk demographics were....because data. I understand reading a bar chart is too hard for some folks so I get the confusion.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
Saw that headline. UPD are in full cya mode. Hope these useless fucks all get ran out of town.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.


And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
You don't know that, you're just following SOP of deflecting from, and minimizing the role of, the tools used to ensure a high death count.

By the way I haven't verified this but my news feed says Uvalde PD is now refusing to cooperate with Texas' investigation. :ohno:

In a way I don't blame them - they will be torched like they should be but - watch a how the "investigation" will blame everything, especially the teachers, but the amount of firepower the shooter brought to the scene will be trivialized. The NRA has probably already sent Russian money to the scene to start spewing the "guns don't kill people" trope.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
Saw that headline. UPD are in full cya mode. Hope these useless fucks all get ran out of town.
Not good enough. Treat those scumbag motherfuckers like they just took a knee for the national anthem. :coffee:
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Re: Uvalde School Shooting

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
You said they waited 75 minutes and then 35 minutes. What you meant to say was "wasted", right? The good guys with the guns failed monumentally.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
Saw that headline. UPD are in full cya mode. Hope these useless fucks all get ran out of town.
They shouldn't be allowed to be mall cops after this.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:50 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:42 pm

Saw that headline. UPD are in full cya mode. Hope these useless fucks all get ran out of town.
They shouldn't be allowed to be mall cops after this.



What these fine examples of Texas manhood should do is un-ass the AO tout suite before some of the Dad's get ahold of them. :ohno:


And take away their cowboy hats, boots, and belt buckles - those are for men. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
You might want to check that info - there is now an account that says surveillance cameras show the door being closed while the shooter was still outside by one of the Marxist teachers you want to arm.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:39 pm
kalm wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:05 am

So you were predicting 1,000,000 US deaths 3 months in NostraHornet?
No I was pointing out who the at risk demographics were....because data. I understand reading a bar chart is too hard for some folks so I get the confusion.
So how did you apply that data from 3 months in?
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houndawg wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:19 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
You might want to check that info - there is now an account that says surveillance cameras show the door being closed while the shooter was still outside by one of the Marxist teachers you want to arm.
Apparently its the type of door that locks when its pulled all the shut, which she must not have done.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:29 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:19 am

You might want to check that info - there is now an account that says surveillance cameras show the door being closed while the shooter was still outside by one of the Marxist teachers you want to arm.
Closed but not latched.
It was supposed to lock automatically - otherwise why would it be propped open with a rock? :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:32 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:29 am
Closed but not latched.
It was supposed to lock automatically - otherwise why would it be propped open with a rock? :coffee:
Because teachers are the real problem. Duh!
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:41 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:32 am

It was supposed to lock automatically - otherwise why would it be propped open with a rock? :coffee:
Because teachers are the real problem. Duh!
Yeah, must be part of the Marxist "grooming".
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:30 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:39 pm

No I was pointing out who the at risk demographics were....because data. I understand reading a bar chart is too hard for some folks so I get the confusion.
So how did you apply that data from 3 months in?
Ignored the mask mandates and disregarded any push to get the "vaccine". Me and mine lived as normal as possible knowing all the fear porn about the China Virus was utter bullshit. :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:30 am

So how did you apply that data from 3 months in?
Ignored the mask mandates and disregarded any push to get the "vaccine". Me and mine lived as normal as possible knowing all the fear porn about the China Virus was utter bullshit. :coffee:
Thank you for proving my point.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:50 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pm

Ignored the mask mandates and disregarded any push to get the "vaccine". Me and mine lived as normal as possible knowing all the fear porn about the China Virus was utter bullshit. :coffee:
Thank you for proving my point.
Data showed I was at a minuscule risk of death or serious reaction to the China Virus. Why would I cower at home knowing the odds are in my favor?
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:50 pm

Thank you for proving my point.
Data showed I was at a minuscule risk of death or serious reaction to the China Virus. Why would I cower at home knowing the odds are in my favor?
Because obviously some of us were selfish. :roll:
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:50 pm

Thank you for proving my point.
Data showed I was at a minuscule risk of death or serious reaction to the China Virus. Why would I cower at home knowing the odds are in my favor?
I don’t know why you’d have to cower but social distancing saved lives. We could have saved 100’s of thousands more by acting more selflessly. So again, thank you for proving my point.
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Re: Uvalde School Shooting

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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:49 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 6:46 pm Look at the timeline. 75 min they waited. 35 min after BORTAC arrived. Not their fault, the dipshit Uvalde CISD Police commander told them not to go in. They eventually ignored him and went in on their own.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dp ... uxbndlbing

11:28: Shooter crashed his truck at 11:28
11:29: was outside the school shooting
11:30: 911 call was made from the school about an active shooter on achool grounds
11:33: shooter entered unlocked classroom.

Why was that classroom still unlocked 3 min after the 9/11 call? Clearly the door could have been locked as we saw the shooter did after he entered.

We wouldn’t even be talking about this if:
-Some teacher hadn’t propped the door open.
-One of those teachers had locked the classroom door.

And we wouldn’t be talking about it to the extent we are if the Uvalde on scene supervisor hadn’t held law enforcement back for over an hr from breaching the classroom.

By the way, the Uvalde CISD police ‘chief’ (he oversees only 4 SROs) apparently isn’t cooperating with the DPS investigation. What a POS.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde- ... 09761.html

Neighbor is blasting him as a coward, and police are having to guard his home 24/7.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-sc ... -neighbor/
You said they waited 75 minutes and then 35 minutes. What you meant to say was "wasted", right? The good guys with the guns failed monumentally.
Yeah waited and wasted.
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