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Re: 2022 SCOTUS rulings

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Winterborn wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:16 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:12 am

Hmm.

Thomas certainly thinks we should revisit Griswold... do you think any of the 5 anti-Roe justices would hesitate to overturn Griswold? I don't.

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If you would have read the whole opinion, you might have noticed that they answered your question for you. :coffee:
The other 5 already didn't go with Thomas - even the quote Skelly provides is from Thomas's concurring opinion - no one else signed on to his opinion. And Thomas has been on this idea for pretty much the entire time he's been on the bench and no one, from Scalia to Gorsuch to Alito, has ever signed on to this idea. Now, if we clone Clarence Thomas and replace the rest of the bench with his clones, then I'd worry about things other than abortion. But let's be honest, Thomas will be gone in about a decade or so, and those other non-abortion rulings will still be there.
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Re: 2022 SCOTUS rulings

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Pwns wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:31 am Let's review a couple of things:

RBG doesn't step down in the Obama years in spite of her age and history of cancer, because god forbid she might be replaced with a man.

Donks vote to nominate HIllary Clinton in spite of her low favorability rating among independents and even Democrats 'cause we "need" a woman president (or something). Even Bernie polled better nationally against Trump.

The irony here is that silly grrl power politics might have single-handedly got us to this day.
Liberal journalists rage at Ruth Bader Ginsburg for not retiring
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Go fuck yourself you cheese eating surrender monkey.
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Re: 2022 SCOTUS rulings

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Winterborn wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:28 am Well the market apparently likes the SCOTUS Roe decision..
The markets do not like uncertainty. This decision takes some of that off the board.

What I am curious about is the EPA case decision.
Yep. I had forgotten about this thread (even though I started it because I figured the 2022 decisions deserved their own thread) and summarized the next 3 biggest cases outside of the Roe case. The next 2 were the Bruen and the EPA one.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:41 pm
She must not know. :lol:
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Holy shit. Leftists have no originality. Oooh. You really stuck it to the LEts Go Brandon crowd by copying the chant.

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Lol, she can barely talk. She sounds as demented as Brandon.
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Biden today:
“Today, the Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away a constitutional right from the American people that it had already recognized.…

…This landmark case protected a woman’s right to choose, her right to make intensely personal decisions with her doctor, free from the inter- — from interference of politics…

…It was a decision on a complex matter that drew a careful balance between a woman’s right to choose….

….eliminate a fundamental right for women in this country….

…..expressly take away a constitutional right….

….The only way we can secure a woman’s right to choose

….elect more state leaders to protect this right

….a woman’s right in states….
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... oe-v-wade/

Just more proof of Biden’s dementia..
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Baldy wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:48 pm
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:48 pm Lol, she can barely talk. She sounds as demented as Brandon.
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BDKJMU wrote:Biden today:
“Today, the Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away a constitutional right from the American people that it had already recognized.…

…This landmark case protected a woman’s right to choose, her right to make intensely personal decisions with her doctor, free from the inter- — from interference of politics…

…It was a decision on a complex matter that drew a careful balance between a woman’s right to choose….

….eliminate a fundamental right for women in this country….

…..expressly take away a constitutional right….

….The only way we can secure a woman’s right to choose

….elect more state leaders to protect this right

….a woman’s right in states….
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... oe-v-wade/

Just more proof of Biden’s dementia..
Is he wrong? Wasn't it a constitutional right under Roe v Wade? Wasn't that determination thrown back to the states?

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Will Clarence Thomas suggest they reconsider Loving v Virginia as well?

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:12 am Will Clarence Thomas suggest they reconsider Loving v Virginia as well?

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Using his logic, don’t they have to?
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kalm wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:14 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:12 am Will Clarence Thomas suggest they reconsider Loving v Virginia as well?

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Using his logic, don’t they have to?
No.

Loving was based on the equal protection clause.

He's speaking about cases which relied on substantive due process.

BTW, Obergefell and Lawrence were not based ONLY on substantive due process. Both include an equal protection analysis/outcome. So you could reconsider the aspects of those decisions based on substantive due process, and still uphold them on equal protection grounds.
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JoltinJoe wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:14 am

Using his logic, don’t they have to?
No.

Loving was based on the equal protection clause.

He's speaking about cases which relied on substantive due process.

BTW, Obergefell and Lawrence were not based ONLY on substantive due process. Both include an equal protection analysis/outcome. So you could reconsider the aspects of those decisions based on substantive due process, and still uphold them on equal protection grounds.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:48 pm Lol, she can barely talk. She sounds as demented as Brandon.
:lol: It's Trump's fault.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:11 am
BDKJMU wrote:Biden today:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... oe-v-wade/

Just more proof of Biden’s dementia..
Is he wrong? Wasn't it a constitutional right under Roe v Wade? Wasn't that determination thrown back to the states?

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Yes, he was wrong. A constitutional right can only be made under one of the articles or amendments, and no where in the Constitution is there a constitutional right to abortion. You don’t get constitutional rights from people in black robes in a court case, because they cannot make constitutional rights. We get our constitutional rights from the founding fathers. Ex we have a right to keep and bear arms not because of what conk judges wrote in Heller, but because of what the founding fathers wrote.

The point of my above post is that Biden’s 2006 (its not a right) and 2022 (its a right) statements are complete flip flops.
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