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Re: Ron Desantis declares war on Disney

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GannonFan wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:31 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:51 pm

1). I didn’t make the connection. I’m just pointing out why it’s not a hard one to make.

2). 20th century fascism didn’t happen overnight. I’m also not saying we’re there yet.
20th century fascism didn't look like anything we are seeing today. People seem to have little to no knowledge of what 1920's Italy and Germany looked like and how the fascists movements even came about, how they operated, and what they turned into. Again, comparing anything that is going on in politics today in America to Nazi Germany or Hitler belies what that fascism looked like and how it came about. It's lazy and it's historically untruthful. In the words of Ryan Gosling, "be better than the Gap".
Well said. :agree:
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Re: Ron Desantis declares war on Disney

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:55 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:48 am

Is this where Republicans go after companies that have a difference of opinion? Doesn't seem very smart considering that Disney donates mostly to Republicans and doing this will saddle those two counties, and it's citizens, with massive debt. Also - it's nice to seethe Florida Republicans bring this up for debate on the floor....oh wait. They didn't.

The idea of teaching K-3 about sex, gender, etc.. is unnecessary and 100% politically motivated.

-Disney started the fight
-They did more than voice their opinion- they pledged to fight the bill.
-When that difference of opinion is sexualizing small children they should be gone after..
The good news is that they can both lose :thumb:
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UNI88 wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:17 am Ron DeSantis Disney attack violates Republican principles, GOP rival says
“I don’t believe that government should be punitive against private businesses because we disagree with them,” the Arkansas governor said, referring to the law DeSantis signed last week dissolving Disney’s 55-year right to self-government through its special taxing district in Florida.

“That’s not the right approach … to me it’s the old Republican principle of having a restrained government.”
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“[But] let’s do the right thing. It’s a fair debate about the special tax privileges, I understand that debate. But let’s not go after businesses and punish them because we disagree with what they say.
It appears that the Republican Party still has some voices of reason.
Boy..that guy is about to be run out of the GOP.
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Re: Ron Desantis declares war on Disney

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Ibanez wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:14 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:17 am Ron DeSantis Disney attack violates Republican principles, GOP rival says



It appears that the Republican Party still has some voices of reason.
Boy..that guy is about to be run out of the GOP.
And maybe activist companies shouldn't hitch their wagon to the fickle beast that is the government.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:20 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:14 am
Boy..that guy is about to be run out of the GOP.
And maybe activist companies shouldn't hitch their wagon to the fickle beast that is the government.
How about companies in general? :lol:
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Re: Ron Desantis declares war on Disney

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Ibanez wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:29 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:20 am

And maybe activist companies shouldn't hitch their wagon to the fickle beast that is the government.
How about companies in general? :lol:
From my perspective, yes. :D From a business perspective, remaining neutral and not taking a stance may get you some bad press (briefly) but at least you will not burn the tax break bridges you bought/paid for.

All Disney had to do was keep the same official stance they had been taking but decided to listen to a vocal minority (less than 50 people in their employ I read) and then they decided to double down on it. Which gave DeSantis the perfect opportunity to expand his base and create a headline.

I have not read the full original contract (nor am I good at contract law) so I cannot speak for how it is going to turn out, but my assumption is both sides are going to claim victory in the upcoming lawsuits. And rest assured that Disney did burn those bridges and while they may claim an initial victory in the contract, my guess is there will be a law passed revoking their contract at the earliest legal opportunity.
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The strike against Disney that brought Gov. Ron DeSantis a windfall of campaign cash and weeks of glowing coverage from conservative media has also generated something the Florida Republican rarely experiences these days: criticism from the political right.

A handful of high-profile Republicans have expressed their unease with the punitive actions DeSantis took against the Walt Disney Company after its CEO spoke out against a new Florida measure restricting certain classroom instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity. A fellow Republican governor, an ally of former President Donald Trump and the single largest donor to DeSantis' reelection campaign are among those now questioning DeSantis for retaliating against a private enterprise.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/06/politics ... index.html


Can't go pissing off your largest single donor....
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