Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:27 am
How does she feel about trump? Based on his endorsements, he values loyalty over winning/control of the Senate.
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Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:37 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:29 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:05 pm
Just like its not really about integrity or being a threat to democracy.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:49 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:37 am
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Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:54 am
FYP
Who lacks character?
- Walker if it's true?
- The Left if it isn't?
- The extremists on either side who automatically believe one side without question?
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 am
Notice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
Is there a safe place “both sides do it” guys can go to in challenging times such as these?
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 am
It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 amNotice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
Is there a safe place “both sides do it” guys can go to in challenging times such as these?
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:54 am
It’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 amIt's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 am
Notice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
Is there a safe place “both sides do it” guys can go to in challenging times such as these?
especially in light of the abortion issue. They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pm
Progressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:54 amIt’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 am
It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.
They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:37 pm
Show me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pmProgressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:57 pm
They are extremists.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:54 amIt’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 am
It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.
They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
This is America, not Europe. If we wanted to be as fucked up as Europe, we’d have stayed a colony.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:00 pm
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:06 pm
Collecting tax dollars, and then doling it back out in the form of government funded projects, is nothing even remotely close to “socialism”.
Try harder.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:06 pm
Tell that to the socialist conservative Republican legislators who labeled it as such.
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:14 pm
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:43 pm
Bernie is a socialist. It's literally in the name of his ideological belief. Warren is a little more subtle but the clues/proof that she is a socialist are significantly stronger than the clues/proof that trump is a fascist but you'll regurgitate that argument every chance you get.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:37 pmShow me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pm
Progressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
I am willing to sit down and debate what social welfare programs we should have, how much we should spend on them and how long they should be available.
I don't consider myself right wing and I don't need a safe place or a fainting couch. You're just upset that you've lost all claim to your post-partisan title.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:38 pm
Social programs <> socialismUNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:43 pmBernie is a socialist. It's literally in the name of his ideological belief. Warren is a little more subtle but the clues/proof that she is a socialist are significantly stronger than the clues/proof that trump is a fascist but you'll regurgitate that argument every chance you get.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:37 pm
Show me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
I am willing to sit down and debate what social welfare programs we should have, how much we should spend on them and how long they should be available.
I don't consider myself right wing and I don't need a safe place or a fainting couch. You're just upset that you've lost all claim to your post-partisan title.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:21 pm
Well the majority of the ‘infrastructure’ bill wasn’t about infrastructure.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:10 pm
nah conks just need to get better at playing by their rules.
Re: 2022 Elections Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:14 pm
Excellent post.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pmProgressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.