I don't get that. I'm not even sure what her positions are, I haven't followed closely enough, but she has all the charisma and stage presence of a brick wall. She's dull every time she speaks. Granted, she may be right on the money, but it's hard to be a leader, let alone a President, if you can't bring a little charisma into it.
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Beat me to it.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:13 amIf you were watching the hearings you could have had your question answered by the first-hand accounts of the people who were right there in the White House.
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Right. So for a donk, definitely presidential “timber”.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:08 pmI don't get that. I'm not even sure what her positions are, I haven't followed closely enough, but she has all the charisma and stage presence of a brick wall. She's dull every time she speaks. Granted, she may be right on the money, but it's hard to be a leader, let alone a President, if you can't bring a little charisma into it.
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seriouly?
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She has more, and larger, balls than the rest of her Party collectively.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:05 pmRight. So for a donk, definitely presidential “timber”.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:08 pm
I don't get that. I'm not even sure what her positions are, I haven't followed closely enough, but she has all the charisma and stage presence of a brick wall. She's dull every time she speaks. Granted, she may be right on the money, but it's hard to be a leader, let alone a President, if you can't bring a little charisma into it.
She voted with Trump pretty much down the line.
She has enough respect for the Constitution to stand up to a guy wiping his ass, an ass that would take two trips to haul, with the Constitution while every single member of her party save a few exceptions you can count on one hand, hides under their desk waiting for the shooter to open up with his full-auto savage pie hole .
When the chips were down, way down, she put her oath to the Constituion ahead of her loyalty to a scumbag criminal President. She knew it would cost her the softest gig available in these United States outside of being a banker, but she did it. These days that puts one head and shoulders above the whore-mongers and child molseters that comprise 90% of the Republican Party.
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Who are those guys? Did any of them take part in the violence at the Capitol the following day? Did they share any of the photos from this tour with those that did partake in violence the following day? Those photos are of the Congressional offices, that's a separate building from the Capitol. Is there evidence they were going to attack those buildings too? There's apparently no evidence they ever toured the Capitol Building itself, correct (I think the Capitol police verified that yesterday)?
Maybe these guys are guilty as sin, maybe they're not, just asking the questions.
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I know if I were touring the Capital I wouldn't leave without a picture of the Longworth Staircase to show my friendsGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:52 pmWho are those guys? Did any of them take part in the violence at the Capitol the following day? Did they share any of the photos from this tour with those that did partake in violence the following day? Those photos are of the Congressional offices, that's a separate building from the Capitol. Is there evidence they were going to attack those buildings too? There's apparently no evidence they ever toured the Capitol Building itself, correct (I think the Capitol police verified that yesterday)?
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Fair questions. Here are some answers regarding at least one of the guys on the tour.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:52 pmWho are those guys? Did any of them take part in the violence at the Capitol the following day? Did they share any of the photos from this tour with those that did partake in violence the following day? Those photos are of the Congressional offices, that's a separate building from the Capitol. Is there evidence they were going to attack those buildings too? There's apparently no evidence they ever toured the Capitol Building itself, correct (I think the Capitol police verified that yesterday)?
Maybe these guys are guilty as sin, maybe they're not, just asking the questions.
According to the select committee, Loudermilk led an hours-long tour for approximately 10 people around the Rayburn, Cannon and Longworth House office buildings, as well as the tunnels leading from Rayburn and Longworth to the Capitol building itself.
“Individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists,” the panel’s chairman, Bennie Thompson, wrote in the letter to Loudermilk. “The January 5, 2021 tour raises concerns about their activity and intent.”
It also cast doubt on Loudermilk’s previous denials that he led a tour connected in any way to January 6. Loudermilk first denied he led a tour, then said he gave a tour only to families with young children, then said he gave a tour to about 16 people.…..
Citing additional video clips obtained in its investigation, the panel said the man that took a photograph of a staircase in Longworth, located next to a hallway leading to one of the tunnels, joined the march to the Capitol and threatened members of Congress.
“There’s no escape Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler,” the man said as the Capitol was being breached, the video shows. “They’re coming in, coming in like white on rice for Pelosi, Nadler, even you, AOC. We’re coming to take you out and pull you out by your hairs.”
The select committee had previously requested voluntary cooperation from Loudermilk last month, which he flatly refused as he denied any wrongdoing. The latest request came with screenshots of the tour group taking photos of secure areas inserted in the letter.
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I wonder if he sought a Presidential pardon like the other GOP congressmen?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:55 pmFair questions. Here are some answers regarding at least one of the guys on the tour.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:52 pm
Who are those guys? Did any of them take part in the violence at the Capitol the following day? Did they share any of the photos from this tour with those that did partake in violence the following day? Those photos are of the Congressional offices, that's a separate building from the Capitol. Is there evidence they were going to attack those buildings too? There's apparently no evidence they ever toured the Capitol Building itself, correct (I think the Capitol police verified that yesterday)?
Maybe these guys are guilty as sin, maybe they're not, just asking the questions.
According to the select committee, Loudermilk led an hours-long tour for approximately 10 people around the Rayburn, Cannon and Longworth House office buildings, as well as the tunnels leading from Rayburn and Longworth to the Capitol building itself.
“Individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists,” the panel’s chairman, Bennie Thompson, wrote in the letter to Loudermilk. “The January 5, 2021 tour raises concerns about their activity and intent.”
It also cast doubt on Loudermilk’s previous denials that he led a tour connected in any way to January 6. Loudermilk first denied he led a tour, then said he gave a tour only to families with young children, then said he gave a tour to about 16 people.…..
Citing additional video clips obtained in its investigation, the panel said the man that took a photograph of a staircase in Longworth, located next to a hallway leading to one of the tunnels, joined the march to the Capitol and threatened members of Congress.
“There’s no escape Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler,” the man said as the Capitol was being breached, the video shows. “They’re coming in, coming in like white on rice for Pelosi, Nadler, even you, AOC. We’re coming to take you out and pull you out by your hairs.”
The select committee had previously requested voluntary cooperation from Loudermilk last month, which he flatly refused as he denied any wrongdoing. The latest request came with screenshots of the tour group taking photos of secure areas inserted in the letter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 6-attacker
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He was interviewed yesterday and came up with even more changes to the story/excuses.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:37 amI wonder if he sought a Presidential pardon like the other GOP congressmen?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:55 pm
Fair questions. Here are some answers regarding at least one of the guys on the tour.
According to the select committee, Loudermilk led an hours-long tour for approximately 10 people around the Rayburn, Cannon and Longworth House office buildings, as well as the tunnels leading from Rayburn and Longworth to the Capitol building itself.
“Individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists,” the panel’s chairman, Bennie Thompson, wrote in the letter to Loudermilk. “The January 5, 2021 tour raises concerns about their activity and intent.”
It also cast doubt on Loudermilk’s previous denials that he led a tour connected in any way to January 6. Loudermilk first denied he led a tour, then said he gave a tour only to families with young children, then said he gave a tour to about 16 people.…..
Citing additional video clips obtained in its investigation, the panel said the man that took a photograph of a staircase in Longworth, located next to a hallway leading to one of the tunnels, joined the march to the Capitol and threatened members of Congress.
“There’s no escape Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler,” the man said as the Capitol was being breached, the video shows. “They’re coming in, coming in like white on rice for Pelosi, Nadler, even you, AOC. We’re coming to take you out and pull you out by your hairs.”
The select committee had previously requested voluntary cooperation from Loudermilk last month, which he flatly refused as he denied any wrongdoing. The latest request came with screenshots of the tour group taking photos of secure areas inserted in the letter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 6-attacker
Dude is lying through his teeth.
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Ginny Thomas might be in some hot water again. Clarence should be too with his dissent and the newly delivered messaging between Ginny and John Eastman.
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sounds like a Tom Clancy novel.
All you need is one SC justice's wife, a guy in a buffalo helmet, and an Air Force veteran and you got yourself a by-God coup!
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Pretty much.
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With a plot that thin, one is talking about one of those serial romance paperback novels authors.
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That former SCOTUS clerk also clerked for the conservative judge who’s now giving tortured testimony to the constitutional gravity of what was attempted by that former clerk and Trump. The same former clerk who was messaging Thomas’s wife.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:26 amWith a plot that thin, one is talking about one of those serial romance paperback novels authors.
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Caveat/correction. Eastman told Trump it was illegal.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:13 amThat former SCOTUS clerk also clerked for the conservative judge who’s now giving tortured testimony to the constitutional gravity of what was attempted by that former clerk and Trump. The same former clerk who was messaging Thomas’s wife.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:26 am
With a plot that thin, one is talking about one of those serial romance paperback novels authors.
Are you watching it?
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Have you ever been on the witness stand?kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:13 amThat former SCOTUS clerk also clerked for the conservative judge who’s now giving tortured testimony to the constitutional gravity of what was attempted by that former clerk and Trump. The same former clerk who was messaging Thomas’s wife.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:26 am
With a plot that thin, one is talking about one of those serial romance paperback novels authors.
Are you watching it?
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Not yet. Why?
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The adjectives you were using made me think that you hadn't.
That said, I do not lend much credence in personal testimony unless it is backed up concrete evidence. I also give people that are testifying plenty of leeway as being on the stand or deposed can make the most stalwart person shake in their boots.
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Which of personal testimony given so far do you not find credible?Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:36 pmThe adjectives you were using made me think that you hadn't.
That said, I do not lend much credence in personal testimony unless it is backed up concrete evidence. I also give people that are testifying plenty of leeway as being on the stand or deposed can make the most stalwart person shake in their boots.
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Fair question but those under oath in this and who are providing commentary have. FWIW, my observations pale in comparison to many lifelong conservative/Republican commentators regarding what’s happening.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:36 pmThe adjectives you were using made me think that you hadn't.
That said, I do not lend much credence in personal testimony unless it is backed up concrete evidence. I also give people that are testifying plenty of leeway as being on the stand or deposed can make the most stalwart person shake in their boots.