she never said Chubby lunged for the wheel - she said she was told thats what happened by one of the agents in the car - so either that agent or the driver was lying. You don't know which one. Remember, go slow and sound out the long words syllable by syllableBDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:42 amTurns out she was lying.https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4524 ... testimony/Driver says Trump didn’t lunge for wheel on Jan. 6 in newly released testimony
…. The driver was interviewed by the committee months after Hutchinson’s explosive testimony, and the transcript was not released as part of the broader collection of records preserved by the committee…..
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Really? Oh I’m shockedhoundawg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:01 amshe never said Chubby lunged for the wheel - she said she was told thats what happened by one of the agents in the car - so either that agent or the driver was lying. You don't know which one. Remember, go slow and sound out the long words syllable by syllableBDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:42 am
Turns out she was lying.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4524 ... testimony/
Of course she said she was told that…. She knew the 4th estate do the lying for her
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she heard it straight from the agent that made the claim. Its right there in her testimony before the committee. The 4th estate didn't know anything about it until she testified.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:07 amReally? Oh I’m shockedhoundawg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:01 am
she never said Chubby lunged for the wheel - she said she was told thats what happened by one of the agents in the car - so either that agent or the driver was lying. You don't know which one. Remember, go slow and sound out the long words syllable by syllable
Of course she said she was told that…. She knew the 4th estate do the lying for her
What street did you say you obtained your education? Rue de Dumbsquat?
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And you squealed like a little bitch believing so bad it was all truehoundawg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:19 amshe heard it straight from the agent that made the claim. Its right there in her testimony before the committee. The 4th estate didn't know anything about it until she testified.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:07 am
Really? Oh I’m shocked
Of course she said she was told that…. She knew the 4th estate do the lying for her
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So you believe one of the two agents conflicting stories and want to use it to to attack the credibility of a third party who gave some pretty devastating first-hand testimony of what was happening in the White House during the coup attempt. Quelle surprise.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:44 amAnd you squealed like a little bitch believing so bad it was all true
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Erick Erickson on January 11, 2021 - Erick Erickson: The logical consequence of lies
CH, is this the same guy that wrote "The Biden Doctrine: Speak Loudly and Carry a Limp Stick"?Not since the British stormed the United States Capitol has it been invaded by those out to end the American constitutional system. But it happened this week at the hands of American citizens. Encouraged by President Donald Trump – and let's not mince words here; he told them to march on the Capitol – a mixed group of rabid, malcontented supporters stormed through barricades, smashed windows and took up residence in the chair belonging to the President of the Senate, who is also the Vice President of the United States.
The insurrectionists, having constructed the gallows and hung a noose, entered the Capitol calling for Vice President Mike Pence to show himself. They did so after the President tweeted Pence had lacked the courage to throw out the Electoral College.
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"What abouting" what the nation saw on Wednesday is shameful. As someone who condemned the summer riots and criticized the media coverage, we should at least acknowledge the summer rage came from outrage over the deaths of citizens at the hands of the police and the Wednesday rage that led to deaths was based on outrage fueled by lies.
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Did they actually have gallows constructed? I don't remember that.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:42 pm
Erick Erickson on January 11, 2021 - Erick Erickson: The logical consequence of lies
CH, is this the same guy that wrote "The Biden Doctrine: Speak Loudly and Carry a Limp Stick"?Not since the British stormed the United States Capitol has it been invaded by those out to end the American constitutional system. But it happened this week at the hands of American citizens. Encouraged by President Donald Trump – and let's not mince words here; he told them to march on the Capitol – a mixed group of rabid, malcontented supporters stormed through barricades, smashed windows and took up residence in the chair belonging to the President of the Senate, who is also the Vice President of the United States.
The insurrectionists, having constructed the gallows and hung a noose, entered the Capitol calling for Vice President Mike Pence to show himself. They did so after the President tweeted Pence had lacked the courage to throw out the Electoral College.
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"What abouting" what the nation saw on Wednesday is shameful. As someone who condemned the summer riots and criticized the media coverage, we should at least acknowledge the summer rage came from outrage over the deaths of citizens at the hands of the police and the Wednesday rage that led to deaths was based on outrage fueled by lies.
I'm fine calling it an insurrection, no real argument there. It was certainly a violent mob and they certainly had it in their intent to block government action and to overturn the election. Luckily, they weren't large in numbers, luckily they weren't really armed, and luckily they had zero support from the rest of the nation, including the armed forces. Basically, they had zero chance of succeeding. But just because they were dim-witted and ill-prepared, as well as being tiny in number in the grand scheme of things, doesn't diminish what they did.
As for the current case at the Supreme Court, I'm fine if they throw out the Sarbenes-Oxley related charge. I'm fine with prosecutors trying to charge folks with anything and everything to get convictions and sentences, and I'm fine with defenses then arguing whether every charge sticks or not. It's what the legal system is for. It does seem a stretch too far to use that law to prosecute folks in this case. Even without that charge, most everyone will still be charged with something that will stick.
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Ginni is bat shit crazy. Clarence has no justification to not recuse himself. They are literally above the law.
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GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:42 amDid they actually have gallows constructed? I don't remember that.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:42 pm
Erick Erickson on January 11, 2021 - Erick Erickson: The logical consequence of lies
CH, is this the same guy that wrote "The Biden Doctrine: Speak Loudly and Carry a Limp Stick"?
I'm fine calling it an insurrection, no real argument there. It was certainly a violent mob and they certainly had it in their intent to block government action and to overturn the election. Luckily, they weren't large in numbers, luckily they weren't really armed, and luckily they had zero support from the rest of the nation, including the armed forces. Basically, they had zero chance of succeeding. But just because they were dim-witted and ill-prepared, as well as being tiny in number in the grand scheme of things, doesn't diminish what they did.
As for the current case at the Supreme Court, I'm fine if they throw out the Sarbenes-Oxley related charge. I'm fine with prosecutors trying to charge folks with anything and everything to get convictions and sentences, and I'm fine with defenses then arguing whether every charge sticks or not. It's what the legal system is for. It does seem a stretch too far to use that law to prosecute folks in this case. Even without that charge, most everyone will still be charged with something that will stick.
Donald Trump said maybe mob was right to chant ‘Hang Mike Pence’ – report
Mostly peaceful though.
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So not a real gallows though. You can't hang someone with something like that. Would've sworn there'd be some CivE's in that mob of whackos, apparently not.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:06 amGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:42 am
Did they actually have gallows constructed? I don't remember that.
I'm fine calling it an insurrection, no real argument there. It was certainly a violent mob and they certainly had it in their intent to block government action and to overturn the election. Luckily, they weren't large in numbers, luckily they weren't really armed, and luckily they had zero support from the rest of the nation, including the armed forces. Basically, they had zero chance of succeeding. But just because they were dim-witted and ill-prepared, as well as being tiny in number in the grand scheme of things, doesn't diminish what they did.
As for the current case at the Supreme Court, I'm fine if they throw out the Sarbenes-Oxley related charge. I'm fine with prosecutors trying to charge folks with anything and everything to get convictions and sentences, and I'm fine with defenses then arguing whether every charge sticks or not. It's what the legal system is for. It does seem a stretch too far to use that law to prosecute folks in this case. Even without that charge, most everyone will still be charged with something that will stick.
Donald Trump said maybe mob was right to chant ‘Hang Mike Pence’ – report
Mostly peaceful though.
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It was symbolic but the message was clear and helps shoot holes in the peaceful tourist argument.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:09 amSo not a real gallows though. You can't hang someone with something like that. Would've sworn there'd be some CivE's in that mob of whackos, apparently not.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:06 am
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Well, that and their trying to beat the crap out of the cops guarding the building gave it away too. I understand the "mostly peaceful" tongue in cheek answer, but yes, they were pretty violent.
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If you look through this board, how many posts and posters attempt to dismiss the violence because a video was sped up? I'm going to keep bringing it up as long as people continue to try and dismiss/minimize the violence and severity of January 6 and that includes trump calling the seditious rioters "hostages".
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GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:09 amSo not a real gallows though. You can't hang someone with something like that. Would've sworn there'd be some CivE's in that mob of whackos, apparently not.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:06 am
Donald Trump said maybe mob was right to chant ‘Hang Mike Pence’ – report
Mostly peaceful though.
plenty real enough to do the job...you just need enough muscle to lift the body up to the rope and let it hang. Nothin to it.
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nobody appreciates the delicious irony of cops beating the fuck out of each other
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There you go again…..UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:33 amIf you look through this board, how many posts and posters attempt to dismiss the violence because a video was sped up? I'm going to keep bringing it up as long as people continue to try and dismiss/minimize the violence and severity of January 6 and that includes trump calling the seditious rioters "hostages".
Nobody said it wasn’t violent. I said that the altering the video made it look more violent then it actually was
Do you have a serious comprehension problem?
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On one side of the building. One the other side the cap police were literally holding the door open for people.
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...do you have any evidence?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:08 pmThere you go again…..UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:33 am
If you look through this board, how many posts and posters attempt to dismiss the violence because a video was sped up? I'm going to keep bringing it up as long as people continue to try and dismiss/minimize the violence and severity of January 6 and that includes trump calling the seditious rioters "hostages".
Nobody said it wasn’t violent. I said that the altering the video made it look more violent then it actually was
Do you have a serious comprehension problem?
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I have enough probable cause to slap a transponder on your car and warn every kid in the neighborhood to watch out for youhoundawg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:43 pm...do you have any evidence?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:08 pm
There you go again…..
Nobody said it wasn’t violent. I said that the altering the video made it look more violent then it actually was
Do you have a serious comprehension problem?
Not once have you, or any other Joey Rotten pervert supporter said what he did with his daughter is just wrong
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you don't have shit, never did, never will...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:31 amI have enough probable cause to slap a transponder on your car and warn every kid in the neighborhood to watch out for you
Not once have you, or any other Joey Rotten pervert supporter said what he did with his daughter is just wrong
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Ok surehoundawg wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:46 amyou don't have shit, never did, never will...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:31 am
I have enough probable cause to slap a transponder on your car and warn every kid in the neighborhood to watch out for you
Not once have you, or any other Joey Rotten pervert supporter said what he did with his daughter is just wrong
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If I want something I pay cash for it.
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they already track you, cashless is about taxes.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:29 amO Kay Fani
Joey Rotten and his miserable Klan want to get rid of cash so they can track you.
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This guy seemed to care a lot about J6.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nati ... 5adba24a23WASHINGTON — A federal judge sentenced a Marine Corps veteran to five years in prison and a $200,000 fine Thursday for assaulting police and brandishing a crowbar to encourage the mob at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
"Arriving at the protest wearing a ballistic plate carrier and armed with a crowbar," Lamberth said, "this is not a case where it's just a political protest gone awry."
In their memo, prosecutors described how Nichols, upset by former President Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election, began preparing and calling – “repeatedly and voraciously” – for violence in the weeks before Jan. 6. On Christmas Eve 2020, Nichols posted, “It’ll be fixed January 6th, or the Patriots will fix it ourselves. When the Patriots move to fix it, we’re bringing the wrath of God, and there’s not a F***ING thing you can do to stop it.”
Nichols then posted an image of a bullet with the caption, “By Bullet or Ballot, Restoration of the Republic is Coming!”
Nichols also recruited a fellow Marine Corps veteran, his co-defendant Alex Harkrider, to come to come to D.C. with him on Jan. 6 – describing the event as “front seat tickets to the REAL revolution.” Nichols also discussed building a gun container in his truck which he used to transport firearms to the Greater Washington D.C. area as well as the need for body armor. On Jan. 6, Nichols in fact wore a ballistic plate in a plate carrier as he faced off with and ultimately assaulted police.
Once in D.C., Nichols can be heard on numerous videos – including several he recorded himself – calling for violence beginning on Jan. 5 and continuing even after he’d returned to his hotel room on the evening of Jan. 6.
In a video recorded on the evening before the riot, Nichols can be heard berating police and warning of violence the following day, yelling at one point, “Heads will f***ing roll! We will not be told ‘no’ any longer!”
On the day of the riot, prosecutors said Nichols “bayed for the blood” of politicians, including then-Vice President Mike Pence. In a video he recorded himself, Nichols can be seen walking to the Capitol from the Ellipse alongside Harkrider and hundreds of others while he says, “I’m hearing reports that Pence caved. If Pence caved, I’m telling you, we’re going to drag motherf***ers through the streets. You f***ing politicians are going to get drug through the streets.”